Texas' 6-Week Abortion Ban Takes Effect

[Bok Tuklo]

Yes it is

No there isn't.
You can rant all you want but legally it is only the woman and tat is ALL that matter.

If the individual in the womb isn't a human, what species are they?

 

[prometeus]

If the individual in the womb isn't a human, what species are they?

Spare me the ****ing moronic crap.

 

[d0gbreath]

Doctors estimate the date of conception. It's when they say it was.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Actually, only one percent of women in the US give a newborn up for adoption.

Did Abortion Legalization Reduce the Number Of Unwanted Children? Evidence from Adoptions

The legalization of abortion in the United States is well known to have led to changes in reproductive behavior.

www.guttmacher.org

RESULTS: The rate of adoptions of children born to white women declined by 34-37% in states that repealed restrictive abortion laws before

It’s more likely there will be a lot more single mothers who will need more welfare money and will be more likely to ignore and love or even care about their little ones.

That will happen as well.

 

[Peter King]

No, there are two humans. Only one has rights, yes.

So legally just one human being, one person, one individual with rights.

 

[Peter King]

****ing Texas and the degenerates that run it.

they hate women's rights in Texas and they hate voting rights. Screw the Texan politicians for their depraved disregard for women's rights and their minority hating racist hatred for people being allowed to vote.

 

[Higgins86]

6 weeks?????? Why are large chunks of America so determined to go backwards?

 

[minnie616]

Did Abortion Legalization Reduce the Number Of Unwanted Children? Evidence from Adoptions

The legalization of abortion in the United States is well known to have led to changes in reproductive behavior.

www.guttmacher.org

RESULTS: The rate of adoptions of children born to white women declined by 34-37% in states that repealed restrictive abortion laws before

That will happen as well.

From the turnaway study :
Studied in year 2010

What Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?

Members of the Republican class of ’12 learned the lesson the hard way: In fighting abortion, it’s not politically expedient to tip your hand and...

slate.com

They found that a year after the event, the women who were turned away from an abortion were more likely to rely on government assistance, more likely to be living beneath the poverty line, and less likely to have a full-time job than the women in the study who had obtained abortions. They also registered more anxiety a week after they were denied an abortion and reported more stress a year out. They were no more or less likely to be depressed. And women who gave birth suffered from more serious health complications—from hemorrhaging to a fractured pelvis—than the women who aborted, even later in their pregnancies.


Happy home lives also failed to materialize. The women who were turned away were more than twice as likely to be a victim of domestic violence as those who were able to abort. The researchers found that “a year after being denied an abortion, 7 percent reported an incident of domestic violence in the last six months,” compared to 3 percent of the women who received abortions. The researchers concluded that this “wasn’t because the turnaways were more likely to get into abusive relationships,” but that “getting abortions allowed women to get out of such relationships more easily.”

Carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term helped abusive men stay in these women’s lives, but it didn’t encourage delinquent new dads to stick around:

The researchers found that “men were no more likely to live with a turnaway who’d borne their children than they were to live with a woman who had an abortion.”

 

[Higgins86]

This isn’t just about the woman’s body. There’s another human involved. There is no parallel analogy to men since only women are able to carry another human.

How can you call yourself a libertarian and yet support this bill?

 

[Slartibartfast]

From the turnaway study :
Studied in year 2010

What Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?

Members of the Republican class of ’12 learned the lesson the hard way: In fighting abortion, it’s not politically expedient to tip your hand and...

slate.com

They found that a year after the event, the women who were turned away from an abortion were more likely to rely on government assistance, more likely to be living beneath the poverty line, and less likely to have a full-time job than the women in the study who had obtained abortions. They also registered more anxiety a week after they were denied an abortion and reported more stress a year out. They were no more or less likely to be depressed. And women who gave birth suffered from more serious health complications—from hemorrhaging to a fractured pelvis—than the women who aborted, even later in their pregnancies.


Happy home lives also failed to materialize. The women who were turned away were more than twice as likely to be a victim of domestic violence as those who were able to abort. The researchers found that “a year after being denied an abortion, 7 percent reported an incident of domestic violence in the last six months,” compared to 3 percent of the women who received abortions. The researchers concluded that this “wasn’t because the turnaways were more likely to get into abusive relationships,” but that “getting abortions allowed women to get out of such relationships more easily.”

Carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term helped abusive men stay in these women’s lives, but it didn’t encourage delinquent new dads to stick around:

The researchers found that “men were no more likely to live with a turnaway who’d borne their children than they were to live with a woman who had an abortion.”

Yup, which is why I think in 18 years, we might see a lot of complaining about "these hooligans" from conservatives.

 

[nota bene]

Spare me the ****ing moronic crap.

You can't answer the question, can you?

 

[Scrabaholic]

Texas' 6-Week Abortion Ban Takes Effect Overnight - https://www.npr.org/2021/09/01/1033171800/texas-abortion-ban-supreme-court-

Here we go.

I thought this was unconstitutional? I thought the SCOTUS would step in and prevent this?

I wouldn’t be heartbroken at all if Texas ever decided to secede.

If course this opens the door for the true morons of the south, Mississippi and others, to follow suit.

Idiocy.

Thank God I live in a FREE country, not one that oppresses women.

 

[Gaius46]

It's a money thing.

Anti-abortion groups will provide the legal filings and flood abortion clinics with law suits from "individuals" that have to be defended in court. The intent is to bankrupt the clinics.

WW

Agree but that works both ways and hopefully any cases brought get tossed for lack of standing very early on until the court challenged succeed.

 

[Josie]

So legally just one human being, one person, one individual with rights.

Like I said, two humans and only one legally has rights.

 

[Josie]

How can you call yourself a libertarian and yet support this bill?

It’s one of the only parts of libertarianism that I disagree with.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

It’s one of the only parts of libertarianism that I disagree with.

Individual liberty is one of the only parts of libertarianism you disagree with?

 

[Josie]

Individual liberty is one of the only parts of libertarianism you disagree with?

The legal, unnecessary killing of another human is the antithesis of individual liberty.

 

[Antiwar]

How can you call yourself a libertarian and yet support this bill?

Right-libertarians are more often wrong-libertarian.

 

[minnie616]

Did Abortion Legalization Reduce the Number Of Unwanted Children? Evidence from Adoptions

The legalization of abortion in the United States is well known to have led to changes in reproductive behavior.

www.guttmacher.org

…

From : When women are denied an abortion, their children fare worse than peers

When women are denied an abortion, their children fare worse than peers

Women who are denied abortions face diminished opportunities to achieve other life goals, gain secure financial footing, and have a child or children she can support and cherish.

www.statnews.com

More than half of women who seek abortions are already mothers. There are three sets of children whose lives may be affected by whether a woman receives or is denied an abortion:

the child or children a woman already has when seeking an abortion
the child born from an unwanted pregnancy
the child or children born from a pregnancy after an abortion


By comparing the outcomes of children of women who were denied abortions to those of more than 400 women who received abortions, we have been able to see the impact of abortion on women’s existing and future children.


Our latest research, published in the Journal of Pediatrics, shows what happens to women’s existing children. Consistent with mothers’ concerns that raising a new child would limit their ability to care for their existing children, we found significantly worse socioeconomic outcomes for children whose mothers were denied abortions than those who received them: a greater chance of living below the poverty level (72 percent compared to 55 percent) or living in a household without enough money to cover food, housing, and transportation (87 percent compared to 70 percent).

We also saw a small but significant reduction in achieving developmental milestones among children whose mothers were denied abortions compared to those who received them, possibly related to the increased financial strain on the family.

Among women who seek an abortion but are denied it, more than 90 percent choose to keep and raise the child rather than place it for adoption. What is life like for these children? We compared children born after their mothers were denied abortions to the next children born to women who received abortions. Writing in JAMA Pediatrics, we showed that children born to women who were denied abortions fared worse. They were more likely to live in households where there wasn’t enough money to pay for basic living expenses. Women are also much more likely to report poor maternal bonding — feeling trapped as a mother, resenting their baby, or longing for the “old days” before they had the baby — with the child born after abortion denial than with the next child born following a wanted abortion.

 

[prometeus]

You can't answer the question, can you?

No, I do not answer moronic questions, but it is curious that you reinforced the stupidity of the question with a stupid one of your own.
Is taxonomy the only determiner of a being?

 

[prometeus]

6 weeks?????? Why are large chunks of America so determined to go backwards?

Because they are too stupid to go forward.

 

[AtlantaAdonis]

Republicans think they're sticking it to slutty sluts who don't want to sleep with them, but they're really just increasing the number of black and Latinx babies who will need government assistance and will make the living space of all the Bubbas and Jim Bobs more black and brown.

 

[Peter King]

6 weeks?????? Why are large chunks of America so determined to go backwards?

maybe because they are backward? You know, people who try to turn the clock backward are rather backward thinking. What's next, repeal civil rights cases from the supreme court? Bring back making gay sex illegal?

How about those asswipe politicians trying to fix the Texan power grid so that this year people don't get to freeze to death or get stuck in houses with no power or heat. But no, dirty women and voting colored people are their main focus. Bunch of idiots.

 

[Peter King]

The legal, unnecessary killing of another human is the antithesis of individual liberty.

Except there is no killing of another human being, and yes, the right to choose is the a sign of individual liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

 

[JerryW]

If the individual in the womb

There isn't an individual in the womb at 6 or 12 weeks or.....