Study: tRump appeals to men who suffer from fragile masculinity

[TurtleDude]

Deflection, the only thing right wingers are capable of. When you have no fact, no logic, no reasoning, no intelligence, deflect deflect deflect.

well since you are trying to argue from a point of intellectual superiority-tell us why the crap hit piece Phys posted is scientifically valid.

 

[TurtleDude]

Explains a lot about you in particular, the OP does.

I guess you don't see the obvious disconnect. Hillary ran as the anti-masculine values candidate. why would men who voted for her be more masculine than those who didn't?

 

[TurtleDude]

You’re talking skill, not stamina. Ford was 61 years old when he entered office as President. Are you genuinely trying to argue that he was more fit than his SS detail?

no-I was noting that he was a better tennis player and skier than most of them

 

[NeverTrump]

150% false this time. There is so study linked to anywhere. A study is not an article. A study gives methods and procedures so that people can verify the information they collected can be reasonably assumed to be accurate. The study is of course hidden, and all we are given is their opinions on what their data(that no one else can see) means.

Cry me a river.

 

[Grokmaster]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/trump-appeals-men-suffer-fragile-masculinity-psychologists/

(note: there is a link in there to the story in the Washington Post, but it is behind a paywall.)





Also important to note is that the research found less of a correlation between fragile masculinity and support for McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012.

Wow. More of the Lying Left's AMAZING "TELE-PSYCHOLOGY" skills, where left twit nobodies thrill their left twit sheep into believing their insanely ASININE, "PSEUDO-DIAGNOSES".

"Ingenuous", is the term. I believe.

"Fragile masculinity"? GO TO A SNOWFLAKE GATHERING, leftists consider MASCULINITY an "affliction" :

 

[RaleBulgarian]

no-I was noting that he was a better tennis player and skier than most of them

Glad you said this ^^. We were talking physical fitness, not athletic skill so when you opined with Ford it was puzzling. Overall, Ford was probably the most accomplished athlete ever to become President.

 

[TurtleDude]

Glad you said this ^^. We were talking physical fitness, not athletic skill so when you opined with Ford it was puzzling. Overall, Ford was probably the most accomplished athlete ever to become President.

and for his age, very fit.

 

[veritas1]

I wonder if they looked to see if men supporting Hillary had similar internet searches

Or if they had any gonads.

 

[What if...?]

Well, that study will certainly make the leftwing snowflakes feel better when they are screaming at the night sky or coloring in their safe rooms.

Or looking directly at the sun and tweeting on the toilet, amirite?

 

[What if...?]

I actually had to see if the article was really as stupid as it sounded, so I read it. Yup. Internet searches county-wide vs. heavy Trump support? Really? The man doesn't give you enough material to attack while still being in the realm of reason and reality?

I think that you will find if you twist the logic just a little bit more that those searches were really done by women trying to figure out why their husbands won't screw them anymore and got too busy to vote for Hillary. Maybe we could look and see if "I heart uggos" was searched more in areas where men voted for Hillary?

I got no love for Trump, but this has to be one of the biggest stretches I've seen given voice yet. And that's in a world of crazy articles.

"Follower" psychology is very interesting.

Most of us HAVE to be followers, our social species could not function otherwise.

And followers NEED someone to follow. That's what their brains are wired to provide rewards for.

Its all spectrum, like all human behavior.

But "weaker" people gravitate towards "stronger" people in order to receive the rewards for doing so.

And reject evidence that their chosen leader is unworthy to protect their supply of those rewards.

We don't like to think about it, but the leaders do. Their power is dependent on retaining followers, so billions have been spent figuring out what makes followers tick.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

and for his age, very fit.

Remember this?
https://www.google.com/amp/ourpresi...sident-gerald-r-ford-tried-to-fit-in-laps/amp
1/4 mile in 14 minutes is damn good at any age!

 

[Grokmaster]

Fragile is how Trump's shorts must’ve felt here View attachment 67245198

In a fight, I’d definitely pick this guy to win View attachment 67245199
Of course that’s not saying much as doughboy Donnie would keel over from a coronary event just holding up his dukes!:lamo

Mommy Pants is only 20+ years younger. Der...


How about someone Trumps OWN AGE? How many CARDIACS...already?

 

[Grokmaster]

W was in great shape for a man of his age, but it is entirely arguable whether he or Obama was more physically fit. As for trippin’ Gerry, no. Maybe in his college days, but by the time he was elevated to the Oval Office, no way.

Nonsense . Ford was one of the fittest POTUS' ever.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Mommy Pants is only 20+ years younger. Der...
How about someone Trumps OWN AGE? How many CARDIACS...already?
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At 30 years younger Trump wasn’t as fit as Obama. Dumb argument, derGrokmaster.
* If you think you’ll get a rise out of me with a Slick Willy meme you’re wrong. I never liked him or his equally crooked wife. Meme away!

Nonsense . Ford was one of the fittest POTUS' ever.

Who said Ford wasn’t fit?

 

[Grokmaster]

At 30 years younger Trump wasn’t as fit as Obama. Dumb argument, derGrokmaster.
* If you think you’ll get a rise out of me with a Slick Willy meme you’re wrong. I never liked him or his equally crooked wife. Meme away!

Who said Ford wasn’t fit?

Bull****. Time will answer that, and Obama is a LONG TERM SMOKER...TRUMP NEVER HAS, or DRANK, EITHER.


And he can GOLF CIRCLES AROUND OBAMA, RIGHT NOW...( and doesn't throw LIKE A GIRL, either, as does PRES.MOMMY PANTS.)

Trump ALSO FATHERED HIS OWN SEVERAL CHILDREN...the NATURAL WAY, unlike Pres. Mommy Pants.

 

[Sampson Simpson]

It isn't as if this is the first study of its sort, with similar results. https://www.vox.com/2016/11/1/13480416/trump-supporters-sexism (again, for those who would blindly disagree with that article simply because it's Vox, they have a link to the WaPo article)



Hey maybe that's a thing. Feel free to check it out!

And people with intelligence don't need a study to get a good idea of the people that still support such a POS, idiotic president as Trump with all his screw ups, corruption, lies, racism, wasting money, bumbling of many issues, etc.

There are absolutely no redeeming qualities in Trump as all, no rational defense of his insanity

Oh, and by the way, why do you need a study when you hear so many Trump supporters go on and on about how its so hard to be a man today, particularly a white man. How they feel they need to discredit the me too women, or assume women coming about about rape are lying whores, or how they rail on about feminism. Is that not all the evidence you need of their fragile masculinity?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Bull****. Time will answer that, and Obama is a LONG TERM SMOKER...TRUMP NEVER HAS, or DRANK, EITHER.


And he can GOLF CIRCLES AROUND OBAMA, RIGHT NOW...( and doesn't throw LIKE A GIRL, either, as does PRES.MOMMY PANTS.)

Trump ALSO FATHERED HID OWN CHILDREN...the NATURAL WAY, unlike Pres. Mommy Pants.


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Go easy on the Kool-Aid, it’s effecting your judgement.

 

[Grokmaster]

Go easy on the Kool-Aid, it’s effecting your judgement.

It's obviously caused you to IGNORE THE FACTS, a common symptom of the Emotion Above All Left....there is NO QUESTION that Trump is the best golfing POTUS ever...as confirms GOLF DIGEST...

 

[ajn678]

:lamo

So let me get this straight: You go to a doctor about a condition you've been having, and she gives you a diagnosis. Then you talk to an acquaintance about that very same condition, and he suggests something very different is going on.

By your "logic," you should put equal trust in both their words.

Appeals to authority are perfectly fine for inductive reasoning, so long as they are not done to suggest absolute final authority, and you've proven that you don't have the expertise to say otherwise.

The difference being, the doctor has proved their expertise by even being a doctor in the first place. They also run tests and verify information about you and then reach a conclusion. These two did none of that. They hide their data knowing that ignorant people will eat it up and think they are more masculine because they voted for Clinton.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

It's obviously caused you to IGNORE THE FACTS, as common symptom of the Emotion Above All Left....

There ya go again, being wrong. I’m no lefty (or righty). I vote for who I believe will do the best job, party be damned.

 

[Grokmaster]

The difference being, the doctor has proved their expertise by even being a doctor in the first place. They also run tests and verify information about you and then reach a conclusion. These two did none of that. They hide their data knowing that ignorant people will eat it up and think they are more masculine because they voted for Clinton.

Not to mention "psychology" is about as accurate as a blunderbuss, in the BEST of clinical environments, much less with this tabloid BULL**** "study"....

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I'm not so sure it is accurate to use "erectile dysfunction" as criteria for being a Trump supporter.
A lot of men encounter this issue as they get older, no matter what their political or social beliefs are.

Maybe they led high risk lifestyles and it's catching up with them, maybe it is hereditary, maybe it is a lot of different factors coming into play at the same time, or maybe it's just a part of aging, and male sexual response changes for MOST men once they hit a certain age no matter what.

Fortunately medical science appears to have handled that issue for a lot of men.
True, until 2020 rolls around, that solution is outrageously expensive for Americans unless they resort to grey market availability.

I just don't think ED is one of the factors. Lots of men suffer from varying levels of it as they get older no matter how they think, sometimes even if they have had the lifestyle of an Olympic athlete.

 

[Lursa]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/trump-appeals-men-suffer-fragile-masculinity-psychologists/

(note: there is a link in there to the story in the Washington Post, but it is behind a paywall.)





Also important to note is that the research found less of a correlation between fragile masculinity and support for McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012.

LOL we see this reinforced here on the forum constantly. And there's no question there are millions of such men in the US...their very vocal 'victimization' resulting from the #MeToo movement has brought them out of the woodwork.

I have no doubt it's true.

 

[ajn678]

Cry me a river.

Is this how you usually react to lying and being called out on it? Seems a fairly odd strategy.

 

[Phys251]

LOL we see this reinforced here on the forum constantly. And there's no question there are millions of such men in the US...their very vocal 'victimization' resulting from the #MeToo movement has brought them out of the woodwork.

I have no doubt it's true.

Yup. The responses on this thread and their refusal to civilly discuss the actual content in the study support your point.