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you don't "hit" kids
you spank/discipline them
if you don't know the difference you probably don't have kids imo
I am open minded about it. There are better ways to take your children into public if youβre willing to put in the effort.
Spanking Hitting
Spanking is generally considered a form of hitting, though many people use the term "spanking" to minimize the perception of violence. According to various studies and expert opinions, spanking can lead to more aggressive behavior in children and does not effectively improve their behavior in the long term.
Some argue that there is a moral issue with hitting children, as society agrees that hitting is not an acceptable way for adults to resolve conflicts. Additionally, physical punishment is associated with increased risks of mental health issues and long-term behavioral problems.
While corporal punishment is legal in all 50 states as long as it is not excessive, many experts recommend alternative forms of discipline that do not involve physical force.6 Positive reinforcement and other non-violent methods are often suggested as more effective and safer approaches to discipline.47
In summary, while the terms "spanking" and "hitting" may be used differently in everyday language, from a legal and ethical standpoint, spanking is indeed a form of hitting.
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Let me state this: Though retired I know quite a few kids and their parents. Kids nowadays are labeled as lazy, entitled, spoiled, and snarky.
Not my experience. I could post dozens of studies that show that children that are spanked are actually more likely to grow up wanting to spank their kids than parents who use other methods to discipline.
Of all the parents I know, none use spanking, and their kids are doing fine. Mind you, that is just from a casual observation, not exactly a scientific study.
Still................... spanking is still perceived as a necessary form of discipline. And arguments for and against can become quite intense. Typically "Don't tell me how to discipline my child!"
So, straight up, is spanking effective? Or, as it is happening in some countries, should be outlawed? Even if not outlawed, should it still be used as a form of discipline in this day and age?
In this case, the slippery slope is very real.This is an actual logical fallacy called slippery slope.
So, your only reason for popping on here is to whine about the left? No opinion about the topic itself?This board is a bit left of Mao - obviously the results of the poll will reflect the extreme left bias of this site.
For a small child, any hitting by someone 5 times their size is very scary. It has also proven to not work. The child just won't do that behavior when you're around. They will also learn than might makes right, and carry that into their interactions as adults- both at home and work, perpetuating the dysfunction and misery.meh .... liberals use "hitting" to trigger emotional responses ..... hitting brings up visions of a closed fist to the face
spanking isn't anything like hitting - sorry
I support parents raising their kids how they like and if they want to go easy on their kids and no spanking? go for it - they have only themselves to blame for behavior issues
This board is a bit left of Mao - obviously the results of the poll will reflect the extreme left bias of this site.
I know a lot of parents who didn't spake/discipline too- I can think of none of them where they had a problem with their kids.Dad used a belt and switch on me once of twice - I was a good kid, I didn't need much discipline though
I know a lot of parents who didn't spank/discipline .... I can think of none of them that didn't have behavior problem with their kids
Damn, that is one sorry excuse for a rebuttal since it has no basis in fact. OF course posting ANYTHING that might require you to read and learn about the effects of spanking will be dismissed by you as........I support parents raising their kids how they like and if they want to go easy on their kids and no spanking? go for it - they have only themselves to blame for behavior issues
It is a lazy rebuttal.meh .... liberals
I would urge you to seriously click on the link. The vast majority of medical, scientific, and psychological studies have indicted that spanking causes MORE "behavior issues" than not spanking. So you made a comment with NO back up to support your claim.I KNOW you won't read any of the material in the following link:
Spanking: How We Have Normalized Hitting Our Kids and Why We Need to Stop β Psychology in Action And the little bit that you might read you will belittle because what is contained within that link will hit a nerve.
But if you actually cared about the subject, you would read that link and many others that speak to the effects of spanking.
As for my logical fallacy, don't be too sure of yourself. A light spanking that is done on very rare occasions is quite different from using spanking as a form of discipline. AND on that note the spanking is done more for the relief of the parent than for the benefit of the child. AND if a person thinks that spanking for discipline is a good form of discipline, then yes, it isn't a stretch that such a person would consider it also a good form of discipline on other family members.
When I am sure there are plenty of conservative parents who don't spank their children.meh .... liberals
He just wanted to say something about liberals because that is his default position. With some regulars on here you can't discuss a topic in a civil manner without them going off on their partisan rants.I know a lot of parents who didn't spake/discipline too- I can think of none of them where they had a problem with their kids.
I was wondering if immature rebuttals would enter this conversation. I mean, we can discuss spanking, the pros and the cons, in a civil manner, but so far we have had .................So now not beating and terrorizing your children is a bit left of Mao?
meh .... liberals
This board is a bit left of Mao
Let me state this: Though retired I know quite a few kids and their parents. Kids nowadays are labeled as lazy, entitled, spoiled, and snarky.
Not my experience. I could post dozens of studies that show that children that are spanked are actually more likely to grow up wanting to spank their kids than parents who use other methods to discipline.
Of all the parents I know, none use spanking, and their kids are doing fine. Mind you, that is just from a casual observation, not exactly a scientific study.
Still................... spanking is still perceived as a necessary form of discipline. And arguments for and against can become quite intense. Typically "Don't tell me how to discipline my child!"
So, straight up, is spanking effective? Or, as it is happening in some countries, should be outlawed? Even if not outlawed, should it still be used as a form of discipline in this day and age?
Donβt put kids in those environmentsAll I've tried to ask, respectfully is what happens when one world intersects another world. Your child had to wander off to get hurt. There are plenty of places in this world where you don't have to wander off to get hurt. There are places where if you don't remain vigilant the world will wander in and give you a dose of reality
Thereβs nothing about privileged vs. not privileged when it comes to hitting a kid vs. discipline in some other fashion.Basically you are the privileged speaking down to the underprivileged. It's your right to do that but your judgement should be reserved
You sit the kid somewhere and say βJohnny is in a time outβ¦leave them sit there for a minute and go do something else unless you care to find yourself also in a time outβHow do you put a kid in the timeout corner when there are eight people living in that two bedroom apartment or when they are sharing their room with three other siblings
My son was 3 years old in preschool when he was taught βlights out, hide, be quietβ. Kids today grow up knowing that there is violence in the world. And that bad things and violence can happen. They donβt need their parents to spank them to learn that.I'm not saying youβre defending yourself from your kid. I'm saying if your kid has zero experience with any sort of violence or aggression in life what happens when that violence or aggression comes to them
No. I donβt agree with spanking. I can see swatting the hand of a toddler thatβs reaching for a hot stove, etc but thatβs about the extent of it.
I think also taking the time ahead of time to explain rules and expectations is also critical.
My kid probably thinks Iβm a broken record or <insert Gen Alpha term for lame here> but to this day, we will be going somewhere and I will say in the car
βNow, what are the rulesβ
He rolls his eyes and tells me the rules.
So, your only reason for popping on here is to whine about the left? No opinion about the topic itself?
Only as a final resort have I smacked my child on the butt. I can count on one hand how many times that I felt it was necessary. For me it was for shock value as it was done so rarely.
If you're talking about putting a kid over your knee and smacking a bunch of times, no. I don't agree with 'spanking' in that manner.
So now not beating and terrorizing your children is a bit left of Mao?
Spankings past 5 or 6 years old would be inappropriate to me.
Dad used a belt and switch on me once of twice - I was a good kid, I didn't need much discipline though
I know a lot of parents who didn't spank/discipline .... I can think of none of them that didn't have behavior problem with their kids
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