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So When Will Trump Finally Implode?

He probably won't win either.


The bookie odds have gone from roughly 200/1 a year ago to roughly even today. It's probably not a bad bet.
 
The bookie odds have gone from roughly 200/1 a year ago to roughly even today. It's probably not a bad bet.

Great bet, if placed a year ago.
 
It is important that Trump Self-Implode before the convention in July.

His withdrawl as a candidate will be seen as a coup if it happens after the convention.

Paul Ryan will fill the empty Trump shoes and that is why he chose his words carefully earlier today.

He did not "Endorse" Trump ..... Only said he would "Vote" for Trump.

Did anybody ever think that he was going to vote for Hillary?

The speech by Hillary Clinton today was all about "Shaking Trumps' Tree" "Edging Him On" with the hopes that his response will damage him even moreso.

Republican governors and State party hacks are going to do the same thing as Hillary did today, right across the country because they are too embarrassed to be seen with Trump because of damaging their own election chances.

No corporation wants their name associated with Trump, meaning less money for the Republican coffers.

Calm
 
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If this was anyone else, he already would have been the 2016 version of Howard Dean or Ross Perot. But, for one reason or another, the Donald survives and even thrives where others would crawl away and hide.

And yesterday's three strikes in one swoop day was one of those moments that should have driven a stake through the heart of even the most resilient of candidates. But...it doesn't look like it hurt Trump one bit.

If The Media Treated Trump Like Other Candidates, Yesterday Would Have Ended His Campaign



So, What gives?

What gives is that Mr. Cohn appears not to have the ability to consider whether Trump is correct in those "three strikes"...that he actually hit homers with each swing (at least in the minds of many Americans). The media may try real hard, but they've lost the ability to control the narrative nowadays.

Perhaps Mr. Cohn would be better served if he were to check his partisanship at the door when he goes to work and writes his articles.
 
It's also the most coveted, illustrious election of all time, the last before the Great Tribulation (2020.)

Its no surprise that we're all going crazy.
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Is that an attack of the Tribbles from Star Trek?:2razz:
 
If this was anyone else, he already would have been the 2016 version of Howard Dean or Ross Perot. But, for one reason or another, the Donald survives and even thrives where others would crawl away and hide.

And yesterday's three strikes in one swoop day was one of those moments that should have driven a stake through the heart of even the most resilient of candidates. But...it doesn't look like it hurt Trump one bit.

If The Media Treated Trump Like Other Candidates, Yesterday Would Have Ended His Campaign



So, What gives?

Trump will never implode, problem is he turns fails into wins, and at this point no one can tell if he seriously can not handle media pressure, or if he did it on purpose to boost his ratings. He is actually able to get away with it which is probably why he goes out of his way to act like a fool, every dumb thing he says he gets more supporters.

Bill clinton could walk out of a scandal clean, but only trump could gain more votes from it, either this man is a genius of epic proportions, or america stopped giving a crap long ago and he was the first to notice.
 
Trump will never implode, problem is he turns fails into wins, and at this point no one can tell if he seriously can not handle media pressure, or if he did it on purpose to boost his ratings. He is actually able to get away with it which is probably why he goes out of his way to act like a fool, every dumb thing he says he gets more supporters.

Bill clinton could walk out of a scandal clean, but only trump could gain more votes from it, either this man is a genius of epic proportions, or america stopped giving a crap long ago and he was the first to notice.

Trump is a gamble.

Clinton is the sure thing.

I'm not sure I don't want Trump because it would be a very interesting eight years but I'm not a gambler and I don't want to work that hard (after I loose my shirt in his casino.)
 
Trump is the classic "say whatever you need to say at the moment" kind of guy. I am not surprised that the Obama haters fell for it though.

Yeah, and Hillary is a little more rehearsed.
 
More like cast iron skillet Don. Sure, everything sticks to it but fans just think it adds flavor. :)

To make that statement you must not use cast iron very often.
 
You got me.

That's what I thought, a million comparisons to make to trump, but please do not try to bring cast iron down to his level.
 
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Is that an attack of the Tribbles from Star Trek?:2razz:

You know, I don't remember seeing this episode.

Are they really called Tribbles?

No, it's just a cosmic cycle meant to purify the Earth a little bit.

We may find other Tribulations later, maybe every five hundred years for the next ten thousand.

We've been in a prep cycle since the Harmonic Convergence in 1987.

The 11:11 in 1992 began 21 years opening 144 gates and then seven years of observation.

2020 begins light pouring through the gates in the form of Seals, Trumpets and Bowls.
 
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And yesterday's three strikes in one swoop day was one of those moments that should have driven a stake through the heart of even the most resilient of candidates. But...it doesn't look like it hurt Trump one bit.

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So, What gives?
What gives?
What gives is that mostly irrelevant **** is getting flung against the wall to see if it can stick.

Maybe they should be examined individually to ascertain if they are relevant or not.



It started with a press conference in which Trump made misleading statements, attacked reporters for applying relatively routine levels of journalistic scrutiny, and questioned the impartiality of a federal judge presiding over a lawsuit against Trump University.
There were not misleading statements of any import.
The press should have been criticized in their attacking Trump over other peoples donations, let alone in attacking him at all so soon after the fund raiser.

And for not realizing that the originator behind the so-called vet group attacking him had a connection to the liberal opposition.

Yes the press should have been criticized.





And the impartiality of Judge Gonzalo Curiel?
The appearance is there. The Judge has a relationship with an organization that is against Trump.


The Judge is "an activist for illegal immigration, works on behalf of San Diego La Raza immigration activists to select illegal aliens for scholarships".

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Is Trump just supposed to accept that a supporter of that group may not be biased as well?





The day ended with newly unsealed documents from that same lawsuit that revealed credible, if contested, allegations of shady business practices at the for-profit adult education program. The trove included a Trump University “playbook” that taught salespeople how to coax registration fees, which could run into the tens of thousands of dollars, from those desperate to get rich. One sales manager called the enterprise “a fraudulent scheme” that “preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”
Credible, if contested? Hilarious.
It is not a matter of their credibility, but more likely one of their own ability.

Which makes it appear as though they are nothing but a few disgruntled/cry baby students who couldn't do what others did.




And that sales manager?

"a former disgruntled employee of the Trump Organization who went to work for notorious #NeverTrump activist Glenn Beck."
 
"Students In Video Have Undisclosed Trump Ties

Former Trump U. Students In Trump Campaign Video Have Personal And Business Ties To Trump. RedState reported that two of the students in the video, Kent Moyer and Casey Hoban, did not currently work in real estate. RedState and USA Today also reported that Hoban’s Twitter account appears to show that the protein water Hoban sells is sold at various Trump properties. The other student in the video, Michelle Gunn, manages her teenage son, Houston, who wrote a personal finance book endorsed by Trump. Houston’s website and social media accounts feature photos of him and Trump together, and in a 2013 book talk, Houston also seemed to credit his attendance at a Trump University real estate seminar for Trump’s endorsement of his book. [Media Matters, 6/1/16]

Broadcast Evening And Morning News Shows’ Coverage Of Trump U. Video Doesn’t Mention Undisclosed Trump Ties

ABC World News Tonight: Trump Video Shows “Glowing Tributes” To Trump U. ABC News correspondent Tom Llamas said that the Trump campaign provided a video showing “glowing tributes with former students,” not mentioning any of the students’ Trump ties. From the June 1 edition of ABC World News Tonight:"


https://www.mediamatters.org/resear...als-without-covering-connections-trump/210679




More Fraud by Trump!

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Trump says he is going to bring back manufacturing, oil and mining jobs to the US economy. First it is better for the US security to leave the coal and oil in the ground, for the US, and use oil, coal gas from other countries.

Service sector jobs are what advanced economies desire. Health Care, Mass transit, financial services, etc. Let other countries do the manufacturing. The US work force is skilled in adapting to changes in job demands. Quick re-education for service sector jobs is another strength of he US economy. Trump is just making emotional appeals to bring back manufacturing, oil and mining jobs. The real path to economic growth in the US, and other advanced countries, is in the service sector.


Manufacturing, oil and mining job promises are just another Trump Fraud.


"We are constantly told that we live in a service economy. Over the past few decades, the reported share of services in the economy has certainly experienced a sharp increase in most countries. In the US, for example, the service sector today accounts for more than 83% of total employment – a considerable increase from its share of 60% in 1947. On the other side of the coin is the widely lamented decline of the manufacturing sector. To rationalise this fall, Pierce and Schott (2014) look at the first culprit – manufacturing offshoring to China.

But what if both sides of this ‘structural transformation’ of the US economy can in part be explained by the domestic outsourcing of service inputs – for example, manufacturing firms outsourcing work on their annual tax returns to specialised accounting firms? In a recent paper (Berlingieri 2014), I analyse the production side of the economy and the role of firms in shaping the reallocation of labour across sectors."



Outsourcing and the shift from manufacturing to services | VOX, CEPR?s Policy Portal


The American Workplace - The Shift To A Service Economy - Jobs, Million, Industry, and Services - StateUniversity.com



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If this was anyone else, he already would have been the 2016 version of Howard Dean or Ross Perot. But, for one reason or another, the Donald survives and even thrives where others would crawl away and hide.

And yesterday's three strikes in one swoop day was one of those moments that should have driven a stake through the heart of even the most resilient of candidates. But...it doesn't look like it hurt Trump one bit.

If The Media Treated Trump Like Other Candidates, Yesterday Would Have Ended His Campaign



So, What gives?

It isn't about who he is or what he has done or what he believes or says. It is about the hope that someone will go to Washington and blow the whole corrupt place up.
 
The Mind of Donald Trump
Narcissism, disagreeableness, grandiosity—a psychologist investigates how Trump’s extraordinary personality might shape his possible presidency.
By Dan P. McAdams
June 2016 Issue
A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump’s Personality - The Atlantic

Inside the mind of Donald Trump
CBC - The Current
Host Anna Maria Tremonti interviews Dan McAdams and Aaron James
June 02, 2016
Transcript:
June 2, 2016 full episode transcript - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
(Flash Audio)
Full Episode for June 2, 2016 - The Current - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
 
The Mind of Donald Trump
Narcissism, disagreeableness, grandiosity—a psychologist investigates how Trump’s extraordinary personality might shape his possible presidency.
By Dan P. McAdams
June 2016 Issue
A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump’s Personality - The Atlantic

Inside the mind of Donald Trump
CBC - The Current
Host Anna Maria Tremonti interviews Dan McAdams and Aaron James
June 02, 2016
Transcript:
June 2, 2016 full episode transcript - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
(Flash Audio)
Full Episode for June 2, 2016 - The Current - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio

He's worrying in many ways. That's why I believe in the end, people will choose Hillary over him. At least we know Hillary. Trump is too much of a wild card.
 
It isn't about who he is or what he has done or what he believes or says. It is about the hope that someone will go to Washington and blow the whole corrupt place up.
That's just not realistic. It really isn't.
 
It isn't about who he is or what he has done or what he believes or says. It is about the hope that someone will go to Washington and blow the whole corrupt place up.

That's pretty much it for me. More of the same will just give us more of the same.
 
That's just not realistic. It really isn't.

Why not? The same people who currently support Trump, or at least don't support anyone else, are the ones who tried to send a message by firing Cantor, retiring Boehnor, and handed the R establishment both the House and Senate, and the message failed. Instead we got McConnell and Ryan. Sometimes you just have to start over.
 
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