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So Republicans, got a big decision to make...

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As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.
 
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.

Barry Goldwater :lamo
 
So your decision will be based more on how much you like the way the candidate acts and not so much on whether or not the policies they support are ones you believe are beneficial to the nation?

Does it occur to you that decades of voting that way is a good part of why Trump is now in the White House?
 
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.

Ben Sasse I believe is a good starting point. If we are just hypothesizing on potential primary options.
 
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.

Your best hope is literally the person in the White House right now...
 
This is for SANE Republicans.

Well, this should be a short thread.

I hate to break it to you, but there is one, and only one way that you will ever get back any semblance of control over your party and it's not going to be in the primary. It's going to require you to go down that ballot and in the general election, put a clothespin over your nose, and vote Democrat in every single solitary race. That is the only hope you have of avoiding your political extinction.
 
Well, this should be a short thread.

I hate to break it to you, but there is one, and only one way that you will ever get back any semblance of control over your party and it's not going to be in the primary. It's going to require you to go down that ballot and in the general election, put a clothespin over your nose, and vote Democrat in every single solitary race. That is the only hope you have of avoiding your political extinction.

That's what I'm doing, again.
 
Ben Sasse I believe is a good starting point. If we are just hypothesizing on potential primary options.

Well, I don't dislike him. He voted against that private prison bs, and he's pro innovation in terms of energy production.

Yeah, he is definitely one to watch.
 
Well, I don't dislike him. He voted against that private prison bs, and he's pro innovation in terms of energy production.

Yeah, he is definitely one to watch.

Indeed. And he seems to be a genuinely decent, rational human being.
 
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.

Eisenhower
 
Well, this should be a short thread.

I hate to break it to you, but there is one, and only one way that you will ever get back any semblance of control over your party and it's not going to be in the primary. It's going to require you to go down that ballot and in the general election, put a clothespin over your nose, and vote Democrat in every single solitary race. That is the only hope you have of avoiding your political extinction.

You don't understand the trailer trash mind, they will abandon Trump in his final moments and play the victim for some young charismatic republican to come in and save. His base is going to attach their claws to another celebrity. And if they do so to one that has appeal to even a few independents, aint nothing finished.

We just got to pick the right shiny to put in front of the retards when the time is right.
 
So your decision will be based more on how much you like the way the candidate acts and not so much on whether or not the policies they support are ones you believe are beneficial to the nation?

Does it occur to you that decades of voting that way is a good part of why Trump is now in the White House?

I would argue that unlike members of Congress, the way the President acts is as important as the policies he/she supports as the President is the public face of our nation. The only roll of POTUS more important than that, IMO, is that of Commander-in-Chief as there are virtually no checks on it.
 
I would argue that unlike members of Congress, the way the President acts is as important as the policies he/she supports as the President is the public face of our nation. The only roll of POTUS more important than that, IMO, is that of Commander-in-Chief as there are virtually no checks on it.

OK. WHY is the way the president acts as important as the policies he or she supports?
 
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.


Dang, man, you're already on a losing streak ...

If you consider all the Republicans who voted for/will vote for Trump as not being SANE, that'll leave you with only a hand-full of Republicans who will vote for a "saint" defined by you.

Good luck! :lamo
 
I said decent human beings capable of governing, not agents of satan...

As crazy as he could be when it was showtime, Barry Goldwater was a fairly honorable man, who by the way, would be kicking Trump in the ass so hard that Trump might be on the outer edge of our
atmosphere and about to enter outer space.

Goldwater kick.webp
 
So your decision will be based more on how much you like the way the candidate acts and not so much on whether or not the policies they support are ones you believe are beneficial to the nation?

Does it occur to you that decades of voting that way is a good part of why Trump is now in the White House?

No, a decent human being is the minimum standard for any person to have for any job. The second criteria was capable of governing. Trump is not.

His policies are imbecilic, damaging, sometimes unconstitutional, and somewhat racist. Stop trying to seek validation for your bull**** with straw men.

Now, this thread is for one subject, discuss it or don't I'm done with you.
 
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.

as always for me , it depends on the policies the candidates represent, whether they mean to actually represent their constituents instead of their pocketbook and they care about the constitution.
 
Though I have turned in my GOP card I still like Kaine.
 
As crazy as he could be when it was showtime, Barry Goldwater was a fairly honorable man, who by the way, would be kicking Trump in the ass so hard that Trump might be on the outer edge of our
atmosphere and about to enter outer space.

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I grew up in the South, back before the internet, we had much different advertisements targeted at us by Goldwater Republicans. Who used to be Democrats. So much racism. So much...

But on the west coast, you would have seen a different version of him and Reagan.
 
OK. WHY is the way the president acts as important as the policies he or she supports?

National morale
Market stability
Respect at the global negotiating table
Continuous bad behavior is a distraction from real issues
And like it or not, the President IS a roll model to the nation’s children.

I’m not saying policy isn’t important, but that can always be undone by the next President and any lasting policies need legislation and Congress carries the bulk of that burden. Also, Congress and the Judiciary can keep any overly reckless Presidential actions and policies in check (with the exception of his C-in-C actions).

Again, in nonleadership rolls, like a regular member of Congress, saying all that matters is policy positions makes sense. All they really do is vote Yes or No. But in leadership rolls, like Speaker of the House or maybe even committee chairman, behavior matters more. And the biggest leadership roll of all, of course, is POTUS.
 
I grew up in the South, back before the internet, we had much different advertisements targeted at us by Goldwater Republicans. Who used to be Democrats. So much racism. So much...

But on the west coast, you would have seen a different version of him and Reagan.

I grew up on the East Coast, so chances are pretty good that we got the stock image of Goldwater and not anything adulterated by the Solid South Dixiecrat Dems...I know of what you speak. :)

Square jawed, rock ribbed, rugged Southwesterner, cowboy image, the salt of the Earth, God-fearing, kind of a cochina doll collecting, ham radio operating, fighter airplane flying desert guy who tolerated no BS from any corner, ready to go to war with the evil commie Russians at the drop of a hat, liked to joke about "lobbing a couple of nukes into the Men's Room at The Kremlin", etc.
That last quip was thought to be the one that spawned the infamous daisy countdown ad spot used just once by LBJ.

I actually remember seeing a billboard for him similar to this one in suburban Maryland:

Goldwaterextremeright.webp

Only instead of "Yes...extreme Right", I saw the stock "In your heart you know he's right" followed by the graffiti tag:

"IN YOUR GUTS YOU KNOW HE'S NUTS!"
 
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