See my edit.
I saw that, again, the notifications process is s should not a shall, and they are basing everything on an EO from a previous President. EOs don't govern Presidents.
That's true, but what is also true is that Obama took a bunch with him as well that haven't been returned.
Yes I read that part, but that's a problem to be determined in the courts, I suspect. But until we have that discussion, we have the declassification process as explained.
Which is all that is needed. To be honest, if classified documents are what they were after, they'll have a hell of a time trying to prove he didn't declassify them while President.
Can you find where the scenario is covered in written rules for the operation of the US government. I hope there would be something that prevents this, but hoping and wishing don’t get ‘er done.
The declassification process is for the benefit of everyone UNDER the President, not the President himself. As far as his word on the issue, thats all that's really going to be applicable, and he'd be an idiot to tell them he didn't.
No I can't. I can only provide you the process that exists for the purpose declassifying documents, as explained by people who are eminently qualified to speak on the subject.
Thanks!
I could be mistaken, but Trump doesn't strike me as a "by the book" kinda guy.
Expert Backgrounder: Criminal Statutes that Could Apply to Trump's Retention of Government Documents
Experts survey the possible crimes underlying search warrants executed at Mar-a-Lago.www.justsecurity.org
"Strictly speaking, even if Trump ordered the declassification of the records (verbally or in writing), what is likely to matter for purposes of handling and storing the records after he left the White House was if the mandatory follow-on actions occurred. Classified documents have classification markings in the header and footer of each page, indicating the level of classification for the document as a whole. Furthermore, classified records have cover sheets that specifically indicate when the record was classified, by whom, and under what authority, as well as when the classification expires.
If Trump did in fact order the declassification, he still needed to make sure his staff took the necessary next steps to modify the classification markings on the documents before he could actually handle and store the records (as a private citizen) as if they were unclassified. Under security classification rules, a classification marking on a document has to be treated as valid and binding unless and until a subsequent marking replaces it. Appropriate government staffers would have needed to cross out the classification markings in the headers and footers, and stamped “declassified” on the record noting when it was declassified, by whom and under what authority. Since that does not appear to have been done with the classified documents reportedly identified to date, the documents remain classified and had to be treated as classified for handling and storage purposes."
Yeah, unfortunately for him that may not be good enough.
Aren’t they MIA, as well?
What do they call that maneuver? Lateral shift?….
I have no idea what you mean.What do they call that maneuver? Lateral shift?….
You said: "I can find no set procedure for a POTUS declassification of documents..."
You “served” up an opinion. Where do you get the hostility? Things have been a little tense, lately. Maybe start with my first post (#15) and work from there. If it’s not written in law or the Constitution, it’s an opinion, opinions don’t bolster any position.
