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Smollett and Black Privilege

ecofarm said:
White privilege is not based on skin color. Skin color is incidental. Privilege is the result of majority power. The labels that we place on groups that occupy power are incidental. It's not being white that drives white privilege, it's being the majority power.

The majority power has privilege as a result of being the majority power, not as a result of any racial or gender attributes. All races and genders are presumed equal.

Privilege is about social power dynamics. It's not biology.

And no, black people don't "get all the breaks". They don't get free Cadillacs or get out of jail free cards. Quite the opposite.
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Then it isn't white privilege... it is power privilege...
 
ecofarm said:
Majority power privilege is inescapable for both the majority and minorities. Context is global. Black people cannot escape the social impact of racial bigotry no matter where they go. Escaping racial bigotry at a social level is a majority privilege.



To a group as a whole. Localized favoritism does not affect white people as a whole. If we find ourselves subject to it, we can escape by moving.
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As I thought, your choice of the word "localized" is merely a strategy to make an evil act of minority favoritism seem unimportant due to the allegedly more numerous crimes of the majority.

You have a wildly exaggerated idea of the wealth of the average white people. You might to remember that the reason that the "one percent" paradigm got started was to remind citizens that the white middle class has been economically disenfranchised for the benefit of the one percent. Under circumstances like these, the white middle class "majority" is not getting any benefit from the wealth of the white one percent "minority."
 
briand515 said:
The Smollett case appears to be the embodiment of Black Privilege. As one of the biggest “victims” (black AND gay) of evil “whitey” America, he gets the Black Privilege treatment from the Democrat Party. Apparently there’a even an Obama connection! A Chief of Staff for Michelle was able to lobby for Smollett to the State’s Attorney, well that’s just wonderful. More Black Privilege unsurprisingly in corrupt Dummycrat Chicago. They had to let “one of their own” off of course. This whole thing is a JOKE. Trump should investigate this and especially Obama’s possible involvement.
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Are we seeing the beginning of gay people ruining America?
 
Acadia said:
I do agree, at the 30,000-foot level, but if Jussie was not black and gay, and was a hetero white dude, I have to wonder if his crimes would be swept under the rug given the same fame, wealth and connections.
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None of Michael Avenatti's liberal friends seem to jumping to defend his crimes of fraud and blackmail.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Then it isn't white privilege... it is power privilege...
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Correct.

Majority powers that benefit from privilege include (and are not limited to):

Racial (white)
Sex (male)
Orientation (hetero)
Age (old)
Economic (1%)
Religion (Christian)
Gender (cis)
 
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Ouroboros said:
None of Michael Avenatti's liberal friends seem to jumping to defend his crimes of fraud and blackmail.
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Who needs Avenatti when you've got connections like Smollett?;)
 
Ouroboros said:
As I thought, your choice of the word "localized" is merely a strategy to make an evil act of minority favoritism seem unimportant due to the allegedly more numerous crimes of the majority.

You have a wildly exaggerated idea of the wealth of the average white people. You might to remember that the reason that the "one percent" paradigm got started was to remind citizens that the white middle class has been economically disenfranchised for the benefit of the one percent. Under circumstances like these, the white middle class "majority" is not getting any benefit from the wealth of the white one percent "minority."
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See the note I made in edit to the post you quote above, and perhaps my reply to Bodi (#31).
 
Ouroboros said:
Everyone. Left, Right and Center, loves playing the victim.
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The Right has made victimism into a art now.

There's a war on White males.. Which is funny considering 30% of the population are white males but they hold 90% of the power and money. There's a war on Christmas. No need to comment on that... There's a war on conservatives. Yet they had both houses of Congress for years and for 2 years had the prez and Congress. Yet the only thing thing they accomplished was a tax cut.. No wall, no 'replacement for ACA, nothing..

I can go on, but I won't.. I'm an old-timer, I was a Republican for 30+ years. I remember when the liberals were wussies and the Conservatives were the self-responsibility people. It's now reversed.
 
Lutherf said:
If you read the particulars of that program do you really think Smollett satisfied the requirements? Did he make full restitution for his crime? Did he perform "no less than 30 hours of community service"? Were either of those factors satisfied before charges were dropped?

I don't particularly care what Chicago does with the guy but they are making a complete mockery of the justice system with the way they handled this. Frankly, I hope Smollett DOES sue the PD because I'd LOVE to see how this signed, sealed and delivered sweetheart deal came about.
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IL code 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3, which seems to be the code section to which the state's attorney overseeing the matter appears to have referred, provides for dismissal of a matter provided the defendant meets certain criteria and complies with the following:
  1. not violate any criminal statute of this State or any other jurisdiction;
  2. refrain from possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapon;
  3. make full restitution to the victim or property owner pursuant to Section 5-5-6 of this Code;
  4. obtain employment or perform not less than 30 hours of community service, provided community service is available in the county and is funded and approved by the county board; and
  5. attend educational courses designed to prepare the defendant for obtaining a high school diploma or to work toward passing high school equivalency testing or to work toward completing a vocational training program.
It appears Jussie meets the key terms germane to his alleged offense. Jussie's already complicit with 3, 4, and 5, and it's possible the judge agreed to waive 1 and 2.
Given that there isn't an in-law victim, I wouldn't put it past the judge to say, "Okay, you 'get over' the $10K, and I'll waive holding the matter for a year on the procedural elements and I'll waive the observational period associated with 1 and 2."

Were I the judge, I'd do that because there's no point to dragging out the matter given that the case's central claim -- that Jussie staged an attack on himself -- relies on testimony of two witness who appear to have given conflicting testimony. (At one point the men were paid $3500 to assault Jussie; a few days later (I don't know exactly how many) the $3500 was for training services.) Moreover, I find no point in locking up magnanimous (to an extent reasonably befitting of their station) folks who don't "dwell on the edge of the law," who've not committed or alleged to have committed a violent crime, who have no prior civil or criminal violation (other than traffic violations), and who pose no apparent threat to the community.


Red:
  • "They" who?
  • The justice system consists of far more that extant in Chicago. Would that the preponderance of criminal activity in Chicago were of the nature as the offense Jussie was alleged to have committed.
 
Xelor said:
IL code 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3.3, which seems to be the code section to which the state's attorney overseeing the matter appears to have referred, provides for dismissal of a matter provided the defendant meets certain criteria and complies with the following:
  1. not violate any criminal statute of this State or any other jurisdiction;
  2. refrain from possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapon;
  3. make full restitution to the victim or property owner pursuant to Section 5-5-6 of this Code;
  4. obtain employment or perform not less than 30 hours of community service, provided community service is available in the county and is funded and approved by the county board; and
  5. attend educational courses designed to prepare the defendant for obtaining a high school diploma or to work toward passing high school equivalency testing or to work toward completing a vocational training program.
It appears Jussie meets the key terms germane to his alleged offense. Jussie's already complicit with 3, 4, and 5, and it's possible the judge agreed to waive 1 and 2.
Given that there isn't an in-law victim, I wouldn't put it past the judge to say, "Okay, you 'get over' the $10K, and I'll waive holding the matter for a year on the procedural elements and I'll waive the observational period associated with 1 and 2."

Were I the judge, I'd do that because there's no point to dragging out the matter given that the case's central claim -- that Jussie staged an attack on himself -- relies on testimony of two witness who appear to have given conflicting testimony. (At one point the men were paid $3500 to assault Jussie; a few days later (I don't know exactly how many) the $3500 was for training services.) Moreover, I find no point in locking up magnanimous (to an extent reasonably befitting of their station) folks who don't "dwell on the edge of the law," who've not committed or alleged to have committed a violent crime, who have no prior civil or criminal violation (other than traffic violations), and who pose no apparent threat to the community.


Red:
  • "They" who?
  • The justice system consists of far more that extant in Chicago. Would that the preponderance of criminal activity in Chicago were of the nature as the offense Jussie was alleged to have committed.
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That's his "Community Service"? He spent "several hours" over 2 days with Rainbow Push hawking swag in their store, advising on how to increase sales (because, y'know, he's a marketing GENIUS) and evaluating their social media.

The guy caused the Chicago PD to expend thousands of man-hours on his case. He blamed racial and gender hate for a crime nobody seems to have been able to establish actually happened. Even the SA's office says they believe he committed the crime he had been charged with.

If the SA had come out and said, "We're not going to send Juicy to jail but we are going to require that he pay a hefty fine and publicly apologize for the hoax" I think most people would have said "figures" and gone on from there. When they came out and said, "He gets nothing and it never happened", all those people who would have been moderately miffed went justifiably apoplectic.
 
briand515 said:
The Smollett case appears to be the embodiment of Black Privilege. As one of the biggest “victims” (black AND gay) of evil “whitey” America, he gets the Black Privilege treatment from the Democrat Party. Apparently there’a even an Obama connection! A Chief of Staff for Michelle was able to lobby for Smollett to the State’s Attorney, well that’s just wonderful. More Black Privilege unsurprisingly in corrupt Dummycrat Chicago. They had to let “one of their own” off of course. This whole thing is a JOKE. Trump should investigate this and especially Obama’s possible involvement.
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In the future, please provide a link to a credible source.

What Role Did Michelle Obama's Former Chief of Staff Play in Jussie Smollett's Case?

The Smollett case, IMO, has far more in common with practices associated with Chump and the Trumpanzees than it does with Michelle and Barack Obama.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
In the future, please provide a link to a credible source.

What Role Did Michelle Obama's Former Chief of Staff Play in Jussie Smollett's Case?

The Smollett case, IMO, has far more in common with practices associated with Chump and the Trumpanzees than it does with Michelle and Barack Obama.
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And yet the corruption in this case may have involved Michele Obama. What is your point? Perhaps, that the Obama's are as corrupt as your misguided opinion of Trump?
 
RenoCon said:
And yet the corruption in this case may have involved Michele Obama. What is your point? Perhaps, that the Obama's are as corrupt as your misguided opinion of Trump?
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Please produce evidence Michelle Obama intervened on behalf of Smollett.

I made a knowledge-based opinion. Chump and the Trumpanzees continue to engage, without remorse, in an ongoing criminal enterprise.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Please produce evidence Michelle Obama intervened on behalf of Smollett.
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Didn't you know about the Obamas trying to start race war? It's like you don't know anything about the race war, the white genocide, against white people! Wake up, white people!


It'd be funnier if it wasn't actually the narrative.
 
I'm not seeing exactly why Michelle Obama is seen as corrupt, here. A former chief of staff of hers called the State Attorney.
Wait, so, if a former associate/adviser is corrupt, it means the person is necessarily so?
Well, then, tsk... tsk... Manafort is corrupt. What is Trump, then?
And it's all a Democrat plot?
Last I checked, Rahm Emanuel is a Democrat and a former Obama associate, and he is pissed off with the outcome of this case, complaining out loud, and requesting an FBI review of the whole thing, still in the hope of getting Smollett more substantially punished. He is considering suing him. He called the decision to drop charges "an abomination."
Why is it that nobody from the right wing is commenting on Rahm Emanuel's position? Isn't he a Democrat? Isn't he a former Obama associate?
Oh, it's because it doesn't fit their narrative... all right, gotcha.
 
He done got away with that there white genocide.
 
ecofarm said:
And no, black people don't "get all the breaks". They don't get free Cadillacs or get out of jail free cards. Quite the opposite.
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Oh Hell no, everybody knows they get free Clenets, Stutzes and Excaliburs!!

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That was sarcasm, in case anybody didn't pick up on that.
The Jussie case is hurting real actual hate crime victims, every race, creed, color and orientation.
There's no putting lipstick on this, no way, no how.
 
briand515 said:
It’s part of it I think. He’s a black gay extreme leftist and very anti Trump. Chicago is an extremely left wing corrupt city. Of course they’re gonna let “one of their own” off. This is dirty corrupt politics at its worst.
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Man....if only the Mayor and Police Chief hadn't come out and expressed outrage of the decision, you might have a point.
 
briand515 said:
The Democrats had to let him off because they would have faced push back from the BLM crowd if they didn’t. “Victims” like Smollett (black AND gay) can NEVER do anything wrong, they MUST be victims of the white man and the Democrat Party must defer to them at all times. I think the Democrat Party leadership and Obama, along with groups like BLM and the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are all involved in getting this secretive “deal” arranged. This is absolutely the epitome of Black Privilege as pushed by the Democrat Party.
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Of course you can prove this. I'll wait.
 
briand515 said:
The Smollett case appears to be the embodiment of Black Privilege. As one of the biggest “victims” (black AND gay) of evil “whitey” America, he gets the Black Privilege treatment from the Democrat Party. Apparently there’a even an Obama connection! A Chief of Staff for Michelle was able to lobby for Smollett to the State’s Attorney, well that’s just wonderful. More Black Privilege unsurprisingly in corrupt Dummycrat Chicago. They had to let “one of their own” off of course. This whole thing is a JOKE. Trump should investigate this and especially Obama’s possible involvement.
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:lamo I actually love this post. Let's see, we have:

- blanket dismissal of black disparity in America because of "that one super rich guy that got off"
- appropriation of a term (privilege) used to describe something every white person enjoys thanks to their heroic ability to be born white, because one person from a marginalized demographic has privilege due to super outlier status (rich and famous)
- white victimhood
- scare quotes and other sensationalist formatting decisions
- a weird dotted line conspiracy theory involving Obama
- Democrat bashing
- absolutely no link to anything

I assume you were going for satire with this. If so, great job! :)
 
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