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And lots of dead poor people.
No, we shouldn't. We aren't savages, and we aren't that desperate as a society.
Maybe we've forgotten what health care insurance IS: it is insurance. The idea behind insurance is, if something drastic happens the insurance company pays so you don't lose everything and go into debt.
Funny how all this would be solved if we just adopted the obvious solution: universal healthcare.
Or universal major medical insurance.
Does anybody want to debate how insurance companies insinuated themselves into our lives and made themselves indispensible?
Does anybody want to debate how insurance companies insinuated themselves into our lives and made themselves indispensible?
the spartans put the weak, sick, feeble and infirm out in the elements to die.... :shrug:
let natural selection do its job
I have little respect for those so selfish that they are not willing to help out a neighbor in need with a penny of their own money. With a VERY basic well run health plan run by the government (is it possibe?), a person at least has access to life saving care if needed. Ron Paul's point of "helping those in need" is lost when corporate greed, excessive reliance on technology (A $300 visit so they could use the machine that goes "PING! to tell you that you have the flu.) and an arrogance seems to be expanding through the practice. If you want more, then that's where private should do best. I don't find spending a little bit of money to help out my fellow man/woman to be an affront to my liberty. I certainly find it more palatable than trillions spent on war and killing foreigners to implement Americanism.
The strawman presented here has been addressed..Do you agree with Ron Paul's POV, that the uninsured should be denied life-saving medical care?
I don't either, but where should it end? When someone is in need and you help them, that's great. When they've got their hand out because people have stepped up so many times that they think the world owes them money, what do you do then? There has to be a time when people need to be held accountable for themselves. When does that time come?
I don't either, but where should it end? When someone is in need and you help them, that's great. When they've got their hand out because people have stepped up so many times that they think the world owes them money, what do you do then? There has to be a time when people need to be held accountable for themselves. When does that time come?
Make the argument that I should be forced to provide you with goods and services that you, yourself, cannot afford.It should be held through mandated universal health care. Since as a society we demonstrate great reluctance to accept the dire consequences of for-profit health care on incapable or unlucky individuals, everyone should be compelled to pay into a common fund as a custom of our laws.
Make the argument that I should be forced to provide you with goods and services that you, yourself, cannot afford.
You have the right to life. You are not entitled to the means necessary to exercise that right.
Neither of these statement answer the challenge. Please try again.
First, this is not a one-way street; you'd be cared for as well.
Second, it's patenetly obvious that universal care is more economical, more humane and gets better overall results.
First, this is not a one-way street; you'd be cared for as well.
Second, it's patenetly obvious that universal care is more economical, more humane and gets better overall results.
Then why are cancer survival, heart disease management, and stroke survival so much higher in the U.S. than in any other country (most of which have universal/single payer health care)?
Neither of these statement answer the challenge. Please try again.
The target is obvious:I can't hit a moving target; what's your underlying objection? You just don't feel you should have to pay taxes of any kind?
Linkiepoodle?
All the studies I have seen have shown longer lifespans, lower infant mortality rates, etc. coupled with lower costs in nations with universal care.
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