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Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a year?

Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a year?

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Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
I wasn't really complaining. I was illustrating the inconsistent position of saying why should we pay someone else's health care where that is what is going on with NP.
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That is just it.........A Navy Retirement benefit is not a handout like you think........It is something earned, bought and paid for..........Its not welfare or a feebee like you leftys think it is............

What part of that do you not understand?
 
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Navy Pride said:
That is just it.........A Navy Retirement benefit is not a handout like you think........It is something earned, bought and paid for..........Its not welfare or a feebee like you leftys think it is............

What part of that do you not understand?
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The part I don't understand is why *I* should have to pay for it. I didn't contract for it or agree to provide it to you.

Same argument as others make for providing Govt health care to others.
 
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Iriemon said:
Navy Pride said:
If he was a habitual liar and acted like a immature baffoon I would.

I didn't serve but worked with NAVAIR for three years and met lots of Navy guys, and 99% truly upheld Navy pride.

It would be nice if I could say the same about you.

For the record, I don't disdain paying for health care and pensions for yets. But all Americans should have access to affordable basic health care. My comments were to illustrate the inconsistent position of folks arguing "why should we pay someone else's health care" where that is what is going on with NP and the exact same arguments could be made about his Govt paid health care.
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Coming from someone like you I could care less what you think about me........All I know is on the first of the month there are 2 nice checks deposited in my checking account........Eat your heart out my left wing Kerry military hating friend..........:roll:
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Navy Pride said:
Coming from someone like you I could care less what you think about me........All I know is on the first of the month there are 2 nice checks deposited in my checking account........Eat your heart out my left wing Kerry military hating friend..........:roll:
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That's rich. The so called conservative mocking the liberal because of his Govt welfare the liberal has to pay for.
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
The part I don't understand is why *I* should have to pay for it. I didn't contract for it or agree to provide it to you.

Same argument as others make for providing Govt health care to others.
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You have to pay for it because contrary to what you think the military does not work for nothing and there are incentives for making the military a career...Your paying for a service provided you.....You don't pay then there is no military, no defense department................
 
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Navy Pride said:
You have to pay for it because contrary to what you think the military does not work for nothing and there are incentives for making the military a career...Your paying for a service provided you.....You don't pay then there is no military, no defense department................
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So let's just do what every other Corp. does in when they are in the red, cut benefits and pensions. Just look at it as doing something for your country in a time of need.
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Navy Pride said:
You have to pay for it because contrary to what you think the military does not work for nothing and there are incentives for making the military a career...Your paying for a service provided you.....You don't pay then there is no military, no defense department................
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I appreciate that financial rewards were an important reason why you decided to enlist. And you are certainly entitled to your opinion that you deserve it and that's why I should pay for it.


IMO all Americans deserve basic health care.
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
I wasn't really complaining. I was illustrating the inconsistent position of saying why should we pay someone else's health care where that is what is going on with NP.
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No inconsistency at all. In one situation the benefits are earned, in the other they are not. In one they are due the benefits because they earned them, in the other they are due the benefits because some law has stated that they are "entitled' to the benefits.
 
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dixon76710 said:
No inconsistency at all. In one situation the benefits are earned, in the other they are not. In one they are due the benefits because they earned them, in the other they are due the benefits because some law has stated that they are "entitled' to the benefits.
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That is just a matter of opinion as to who deserves what.

In both case taxpayers are expected to pay for the cost of someone's health care they did not agree to.
 
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Iriemon said:
That's rich. The so called conservative mocking the liberal because of his Govt welfare the liberal has to pay for.
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There you go again..You just can't hide your hatred for our military.You think the benefits and pay they work very hard for is welfare..........sad......
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
The part I don't understand is why *I* should have to pay for it. I didn't contract for it or agree to provide it to you.

Same argument as others make for providing Govt health care to others.
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You live in this country.You pay taxes to support a military.If you don't like that move somewhere else........

Universal health care is a freebie, a handout.....I am all for it if you want to pay for it.......Why don't you find a guy who is making $83K and pay for his health insurance.......Maybe you would be able to sleep better at night.......
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
I appreciate that financial rewards were an important reason why you decided to enlist. And you are certainly entitled to your opinion that you deserve it and that's why I should pay for it.


IMO all Americans deserve basic health care.
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I don't believe I should have to pay for the health care of someone making $83K a year when that is more then I make.......
 
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Navy Pride said:
I don't believe I should have to pay for the health care of someone making $83K a year when that is more then I make.......
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The President makes 400k salary and you pay for his health care.
 
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winston53660 said:
So let's just do what every other Corp. does in when they are in the red, cut benefits and pensions. Just look at it as doing something for your country in a time of need.
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God Damn Man the Military is sorely undepaid already and you want to cut them.........Get a ****ing clue.....
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
I appreciate that financial rewards were an important reason why you decided to enlist. And you are certainly entitled to your opinion that you deserve it and that's why I should pay for it.


IMO all Americans deserve basic health care.
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And who pays for it? The government already has programs like Medicare, Medicad, and SS that are failing and you want to add another...........
 
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Navy Pride said:
God Damn Man the Military is sorely undepaid already and you want to cut them.........Get a ****ing clue.....
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God Damn man the average American worker is under paid too!!

Welcome to the club.

*and no I do not want military benefits
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
That is just a matter of opinion as to who deserves what.

In both case taxpayers are expected to pay for the cost of someone's health care they did not agree to.
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Free health care is not a right.......
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Navy Pride said:
You live in this country.You pay taxes to support a military.If you don't like that move somewhere else........

Universal health care is a freebie, a handout.....I am all for it if you want to pay for it.......Why don't you find a guy who is making $83K and pay for his health insurance.......Maybe you would be able to sleep better at night.......
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With any luck, in a couple years I'll be saying you live in this country, you pay taxes to support Americans. If you don't like that move somewhere else........
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Navy Pride said:
There you go again..You just can't hide your hatred for our military.You think the benefits and pay they work very hard for is welfare..........sad......
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It's Govt payment to you coming out of taxpayers pockets. That's welfare as much as SS is.
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Navy Pride said:
I don't believe I should have to pay for the health care of someone making $83K a year when that is more then I make.......
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I don't believ I should have to pay for your health care.

There we are.
 
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winston53660 said:
The President makes 400k salary and you pay for his health care.
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The president is the Commander In Chief....In that position he deserves to be paid.....
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Navy Pride said:
And who pays for it? The government already has programs like Medicare, Medicad, and SS that are failing and you want to add another...........
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Good point. We already have nationalized health care for most Americans.

If we can afford to spend $100 billion a year to support Bush's "mistaken" war we can provide basic affordable health care for all Americans.
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
I don't believ I should have to pay for your health care.

There we are.
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I know, you don't believe the military should be paid and receive benefits but you want their protection...I guess they should work for free in your mixed up mind............
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Navy Pride said:
The president is the Commander In Chief....In that position he deserves to be paid.....
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Ha ha that's just your opinion. I didn't agree to pay his health care either. Every American deserves basic affordable health care.
 
Re: Should the tax payer have to pay for ins for a child whose parents make $83K a ye

Iriemon said:
Good point. We already have nationalized health care for most Americans.

If we can afford to spend $100 billion a year to support Bush's "mistaken" war we can provide basic affordable health care for all Americans.
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So now you want to cut off th funding for the war and leave our people in Iraq in harms way, and you say you don't hate the military.........
 
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