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Should the free world put together a military force to invade Iran?

Should the free world put together a military force to disarm Iran?


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GySgt said:
What the hell was that for? SKILMATIC happens to be the most knowledgable with Jets on this site.

Don't tell me you are working your way up to have another discussion on bugs.

Thank you Gunny.

Tel me mr. Archon, what MOS were you in the force? A 3HOX1?

I have trained in the art of Aerospace propulsion, Aircraft maintenance, aircraft armament systems, and aeronautical engineering. IN the force that incl the following:plans, organizes, and directs aerospace propulsion maintenance activities. Interprets and implements directives and publications pertaining to maintenance functions, including environmentally safe maintenance practices. Determines resource requirements, including facilities, equipment, and supplies. Inspects and evaluates maintenance activities.

Advises, performs troubleshooting, and determines repair procedures on aircraft engines. Diagnoses and repairs malfunctions using technical publications. Solves maintenance problems by studying drawings, wiring and schematic diagrams, technical instructions, and analyzing operating characteristics of aircraft engines and propellers. Inspects, certifies, and approves completed maintenance actions.

Removes, installs, inspects, repairs, and modifies engines, engine modules and components, and propellers and propeller components. Disassembles and assembles engines and propellers adhering to prescribed procedures. Prepares engines and propellers for installation, storage, or transportation. Tests components using bench mockups and test equipment. Installs and removes engines on test stands, and operates, evaluates, and performs test stand functions on engines. Accomplishes operator maintenance on test stands. Inspects and maintains engine ground SE. Operates and performs operator inspections on related SE. Selects, uses, and cares for special tools, hand tools, and test equipment. Uses and disposes of hazardous waste and materials.
Analyzes, interprets, and recommends maintenance actions based on unscheduled engine removals and engine monitoring system data. Coordinates with the base engine manager to analyze scheduled engine removals; recommends forecast actions to the weekly or monthly maintenance schedules. And much much more.
 
Sergeant, I am saying that if we gamble with a very classified and expensive plane and loose her, then the rest of the world might not respect or fear our technology as much as they do. When we attacked Iraq the first time, they were running up and surrendering in droves. The media was spouting stories of our night operations and how great our technology was and how superior it is. If something happened to one of our stealth planes, the world would doubt our ability.
I really think that a lot of our conflicts have been won just because the enemy fears our technological abilities and I dont want them to think otherwise.
 
Archon said:
Dear child I am not hear to educate you. C-130s are the most widely used craft in the armed services for practical purpose. Hence the analogy that you would probably crash it into the white house. My grandmother could probably fly one.... but I just don't think you have what it takes. Ouch. I know. .... I know.. you're big on internet research.

You think quaternions are linear. You think that there is anything linear in covert/black operations? Dear boy you really need to stop spouting so much and invest your time in something much more productive. It's funy all the while I'm defending myself against your naive attacks I'm offering you tidbits to further your nimble understanding. Take it as you will.

First paragraph is a bunch ofmeaningles nonsense.

Second paragraph, they can be expressed in a linear fashion do I NEED TO SUBMIT A LINK FOR YOU AGAIN SO THAT EVERYONE HERE CAN SEE YOUR A MORON AND YOUR FULL OF SH!T? In covert black ops you are talking marines now bud. Or the special forces. Also quaternions dont measure black ops, so that analogy is crappy. Also I invest my time making sure idiots like you dont spread the wrong info.
 
SKILMATIC said:
Thank you Gunny.

Tel me mr. Archon, what MOS were you in the force? A 3HOX1?

I have trained in the art of Aerospace propulsion, Aircraft maintenance, aircraft armament systems, and aeronautical engineering. IN the force that incl the following:plans, organizes, and directs aerospace propulsion maintenance activities. Interprets and implements directives and publications pertaining to maintenance functions, including environmentally safe maintenance practices. Determines resource requirements, including facilities, equipment, and supplies. Inspects and evaluates maintenance activities.

Advises, performs troubleshooting, and determines repair procedures on aircraft engines. Diagnoses and repairs malfunctions using technical publications. Solves maintenance problems by studying drawings, wiring and schematic diagrams, technical instructions, and analyzing operating characteristics of aircraft engines and propellers. Inspects, certifies, and approves completed maintenance actions.

Removes, installs, inspects, repairs, and modifies engines, engine modules and components, and propellers and propeller components. Disassembles and assembles engines and propellers adhering to prescribed procedures. Prepares engines and propellers for installation, storage, or transportation. Tests components using bench mockups and test equipment. Installs and removes engines on test stands, and operates, evaluates, and performs test stand functions on engines. Accomplishes operator maintenance on test stands. Inspects and maintains engine ground SE. Operates and performs operator inspections on related SE. Selects, uses, and cares for special tools, hand tools, and test equipment. Uses and disposes of hazardous waste and materials.
Analyzes, interprets, and recommends maintenance actions based on unscheduled engine removals and engine monitoring system data. Coordinates with the base engine manager to analyze scheduled engine removals; recommends forecast actions to the weekly or monthly maintenance schedules. And much much more.


OHHHH DAAAAAAMN!

See what I mean? Someone just got blasted with a slap of credibility.
 
ddoyle00 said:
Sergeant, I am saying that if we gamble with a very classified and expensive plane and loose her, then the rest of the world might not respect or fear our technology as much as they do. When we attacked Iraq the first time, they were running up and surrendering in droves. The media was spouting stories of our night operations and how great our technology was and how superior it is. If something happened to one of our stealth planes, the world would doubt our ability.
I really think that a lot of our conflicts have been won just because the enemy fears our technological abilities and I dont want them to think otherwise.

Thats gunny to you. In a marine status its actually negatory to refer to a gunny searge as just a searge. Just fyi
 
ddoyle00 said:
Sergeant, I am saying that if we gamble with a very classified and expensive plane and loose her, then the rest of the world might not respect or fear our technology as much as they do. When we attacked Iraq the first time, they were running up and surrendering in droves. The media was spouting stories of our night operations and how great our technology was and how superior it is. If something happened to one of our stealth planes, the world would doubt our ability.
I really think that a lot of our conflicts have been won just because the enemy fears our technological abilities and I dont want them to think otherwise.

Of course. Good points. But we shouldn't let that deter our using that technology that they fear. What's the point of spending all that money if we just refrain from using it in case something goes wrong? We've spent all that money to make sure something doesn't go wrong. Iran doesn't need a ground assault where tens of thousands of deaths will occur, when we have the Iranian youth almost ripe to bring about change on their own. Our only concern should be the nuclear sites. A ground assault into Iran will make things worse and it is not necessary.
 
GySgt said:
Of course. Good points. But we shouldn't let that deter our using that technology that they fear. What's the point of spending all that money if we just refrain from using it in case something goes wrong? We've spent all that money to make sure something doesn't go wrong. Iran doesn't need a ground assault where tens of thousands of deaths will occur, when we have the Iranian youth almost ripe to bring about change on their own. Our only concern should be the nuclear sites. A ground assault into Iran will make things worse and it is not necessary.

I totally agree. Why lose tens of thousands of men and millions of dollars of equipment and artilery when the same job can be done with a quick decisive airstrike that is over in a few hours.
 
teacher said:
Somebody has entered the game illprepared. Shame.

The Monkey Army was ready.
 
SKILMATIC said:
Thank you Gunny.

Tel me mr. Archon, what MOS were you in the force? A 3HOX1?

I have trained in the art of Aerospace propulsion, Aircraft maintenance, aircraft armament systems, and aeronautical engineering. IN the force that incl the following:plans, organizes, and directs aerospace propulsion maintenance activities. Interprets and implements directives and publications pertaining to maintenance functions, including environmentally safe maintenance practices. Determines resource requirements, including facilities, equipment, and supplies. Inspects and evaluates maintenance activities.

Advises, performs troubleshooting, and determines repair procedures on aircraft engines. Diagnoses and repairs malfunctions using technical publications. Solves maintenance problems by studying drawings, wiring and schematic diagrams, technical instructions, and analyzing operating characteristics of aircraft engines and propellers. Inspects, certifies, and approves completed maintenance actions.

Removes, installs, inspects, repairs, and modifies engines, engine modules and components, and propellers and propeller components. Disassembles and assembles engines and propellers adhering to prescribed procedures. Prepares engines and propellers for installation, storage, or transportation. Tests components using bench mockups and test equipment. Installs and removes engines on test stands, and operates, evaluates, and performs test stand functions on engines. Accomplishes operator maintenance on test stands. Inspects and maintains engine ground SE. Operates and performs operator inspections on related SE. Selects, uses, and cares for special tools, hand tools, and test equipment. Uses and disposes of hazardous waste and materials.
Analyzes, interprets, and recommends maintenance actions based on unscheduled engine removals and engine monitoring system data. Coordinates with the base engine manager to analyze scheduled engine removals; recommends forecast actions to the weekly or monthly maintenance schedules. And much much more.

Anybody that has been privvy to being an intelligence officer in the Air Force could clearly discern your copy and paste tactics. I don't think my limited clearance to the foremost Groomlake, Los Alamos, Dulce, and Edwards have anything to do with it.
Nice try though. Why don't you go copy and paste some more?

Algorithmically, your post doesn't add up? WHY? Because it is non-linear. Usually you have a typo within ever 9 to 15 words. Stupid typos too. Some of them are even a result of your fallible vocabulary. All the sudden you post this elongated quip claiming all of these virtues that only a distinguished AF mechanic would be compatent to perform (and even in that sense it gives you no credence in terms of maneuverability of such craft). You may be fooling somebody, child, but you are not fooling me.
 
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SKILMATIC said:
I totally agree. Why lose tens of thousands of men and millions of dollars of equipment and artilery when the same job can be done with a quick decisive airstrike that is over in a few hours.

Haven't we went over this months ago? Or do some newbies need spankings? Any wonder I spend all my time downstairs...where's Ayran?
 
teacher said:
Haven't we went over this months ago? Or do some newbies need spankings? Any wonder I spend all my time downstairs...where's Ayran?

He got his butt kicked on another thread. He was looking for sympathy for all of the German deaths during WWII. He called it the "German Holocaust." :roll:
 
Archon said:
Anybody that has been privvy to being an intelligence officer in the Air Force could clearly discern your copy and paste tactics. I don't think my limited clearance to the foremost Groomlake, Los Alamos, Dulce, and Edwards have anything to do with it.
Nice try though. Why don't you go copy and paste some more?

Algorithmically, your post doesn't add up? WHY? Because it is non-linear. Usually you have a typo within ever 9 to 15 words. Stupid typos too. Some of them are even a result of your fallible vocabulary. All the sudden you post this elongated quip claiming all of these virtues that only a distinguished few would be compatent to perform. You may be fooling somebody, child, but you are not fooling me.

Realy? wel hoe aboot dis tiepoe? Eye hop u kan reed dis postov min. I ame sowy phor knot spellling corektlee al da tim.

In a very small exerpt. I can sum this up for you very quickly. You ready? Its called typing very fast then making sure you type perfectly. You do know there are times when people dont care about spelling and there are times when people do care about spelling especially when they want to show the truth to someone., right? O gee did I type that perfectly? Awwe I guess there goes that theory huh?

Maybe you will learn some day the knowledge of what a quaternion really is.
 
GySgt said:
Our technology is better than any surface to air missile system in any country. No problem.


Oh, did I forget to mention flight after flight of defensive jets? And, that technology of which you speak, F-22s, have been yet to be used in actual battle. We also don't know what they might do in the event of an attack, you never know what they might have up their sleeves. Is it worth it?


Duke
 
Archon said:
You think quaternions are linear. You think that there is anything linear in covert/black operations? Dear boy you really need to stop spouting so much and invest your time in something much more productive. It's funy all the while I'm defending myself against your naive attacks I'm offering you tidbits to further your nimble understanding. Take it as you will.

I guess this works on some people...
 
SKILMATIC said:
Realy? wel hoe aboot dis tiepoe? Eye hop u kan reed dis postov min. I ame sowy phor knot spellling corektlee al da tim.

In a very small exerpt. I can sum this up for you very quickly. You ready? Its called typing very fast then making sure you type perfectly. You do know there are times when people dont care about spelling and there are times when people do care about spelling especially when they want to show the truth to someone., right? O gee did I type that perfectly? Awwe I guess there goes that theory huh?

Maybe you will learn some day the knowledge of what a quaternion really is.

Maybe someday you will learn that it is not the proclamation of such knowledge that is pertinent, but rather it's application.
 
Duke said:
Oh, did I forget to mention flight after flight of defensive jets? And, that technology of which you speak, F-22s, have been yet to be used in actual battle. We also don't know what they might do in the event of an attack, you never know what they might have up their sleeves. Is it worth it?


Duke

A while back I heard Meyers saying the F-22's were undergoing "operational testing". You figure it out. What they have up their sleeves? Duke, and old saying for you. It's better to say nothing and let them think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm it.
 
Duke said:
Oh, did I forget to mention flight after flight of defensive jets? And, that technology of which you speak, F-22s, have been yet to be used in actual battle. We also don't know what they might do in the event of an attack, you never know what they might have up their sleeves. Is it worth it?


Duke

Yeah its worth it. Because while our F22s are airborne behind enemy lines they are also gaurded by F15, F16, and A10(A2G tactical aircraft) which do the dog fighting if need be. Reason being is becasue the F22 would have extreme problems in close aerial combat due to it not being equipped with a gun. That was lockheeds number 1 mistake. However, becasue of Grummans failure to fly their F23 in test flight(the initial take off the plane losed control and pitch swiveled and then crashed) the defense contract went to the F22. On the other hand, the F23 was equipped with a gun.
 
GySgt said:
Of course. Good points. But we shouldn't let that deter our using that technology that they fear. What's the point of spending all that money if we just refrain from using it in case something goes wrong? We've spent all that money to make sure something doesn't go wrong. Iran doesn't need a ground assault where tens of thousands of deaths will occur, when we have the Iranian youth almost ripe to bring about change on their own. Our only concern should be the nuclear sites. A ground assault into Iran will make things worse and it is not necessary.

I think it's clear that the NRO has been very busy with Iran as have other security agencies. We've got people in Iran, we've got birds on Iran, we've got autonomated surveillance on Iran.... we know what is happening in Iran.... but it falls under the burden of priviliged classification which leaves it a matter of executive prejiduce...... which is exactly why I think Bush is a complete failure.
 
Archon said:
Maybe someday you will learn that it is not the proclamation of such knowledge that is pertinent, but rather it's application.

OK whatever you say sir. I salute my superior.
 
Archon said:
I think it's clear that the NRO has been very busy with Iran as have other security agencies. We've got people in Iran, we've got birds on Iran, we've got autonomated surveillance on Iran.... we know what is happening in Iran.... but it falls under the burden of priviliged classification which leaves it a matter of executive prejiduce...... which is exactly why I think Bush is a complete failure.

Ummm... I beleive you mispelled prejudice Mr. Webster. Just helping you out Mr. Archon Webster.
 
A couple of cruise missiles takes out the Iranian plant just fine. Or one F-117, F-22 or B-2 at night. The point is, Gunnys right. there's no need to invade Iran. Dissention from within is ripe. All we have to worry about is keeping them from enriching Uranium. The oppressed people in that armpit are looking across the border and learning that freedom is not unattainable.
 
SKILMATIC said:
OK whatever you say sir. I salute my superior.

The last thing I would want from you is any type of salutation. However, feel free to polish my boots. :2wave:
 
SKILMATIC said:
Ummm... I beleive you mispelled prejudice Mr. Webster. Just helping you out Mr. Archon Webster.

Yeah, well at least I can spell believe. Heh. I'm human. I never said I don't make mistakes. Unlike you I will own up to my mistakes. Yeah... I misspelled a word. Do you want a cookie?

(p.s. I also misspelled priveleged and privy.... but you didn't catch that did ya?)
 
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