Should slurs be allowed for entire groups in discussions?

[LouC]

MAGAT

OKAY to Trump supporters, who did I flame with the post above?

 

[trumptman]

It is not even a very good comedy bit. It is just whining about being a victim. The rules for slurs are what they are, and Maga republicans are not protected from slurs and more than liberals and democrats are. The difference being, liberals and democrats have a spine...

Apparently you believe they have a spine but their reporting suggests quite the opposite.

 

[Redress]

Apparently you believe they have a spine but their reporting suggests quite the opposite.

Well, that is mighty hypocritical considering your OP...

 

[BirdinHand]

MAGA isn't a party.

So the point remains, you'd support my use of Libtard and Pedocrat since behavior and political identification aren't protected classes and those terms are not insults, flames or baiting.

I don’t care what you post. .

 

[trumptman]

“Flame-baiting” is making statements intended to cause an angry or emotional response/flame from the person. Another form of baiting is known as “derailing” or “thread-jacking.” This is the deliberate act of making statements with an aim of diverting the topic of a thread significantly from its main focus. These negative forms of baiting constitute a rules violation that can potentially lead to a suspension of posting privileges.

How does calling people MAGAts not trigger this rule?

Complaining that the people who get the emotional response aren't entitled to an emotional response because they whining, being a victim or anything else is just doubling down. You could do it with any other slur as well.

 

[zincwarrior]

It’s safe to assume it refers to an alleged Trump supporter.

then I am confused, How is that a slur?

 

[trumptman]

I don’t care what you post. .

You don't care YET.

Would you care when I use the same sort of slurs in return?

If every time you post MAGAt, I said you were a libtard or a pedocrat, would you care then?

 

[zincwarrior]

MAGATS are a slur on the American Political landscape.

Interesting. But I have not realized things before.

 

[ttwtt78640]

then I am confused, How is that a slur?

IMHO, it’s akin to calling them maggots.

 

[eman623]

I'd suggest the moderators but that is the point of the discussion.

My understanding is that you can't attack other posters personally. You can say, "You are lying!", but you can't say, "you are a liar!" The former attacks your words while the latter attacks you personally.

Likewise you can say, "Republicans are bastards" but you can't say, "Poster X is a bastard".

So can you call someone a MAGAt? If, as some claim here, it is a euphemism for "maggot", then no. You shouldn't be allowed to call another poster that. IMO.

But you can call them a "MAGA"? Good question. I would say it's allowed, even if it's intended as a slur. It's the term Trump supporters use for themselves.

 

[LouC]

Interesting. But I have not realized things before.

 

[Redress]

You don't care YET.

Would you care when I use the same sort of slurs in return?

If every time you post MAGAt, I said you were a libtard or a pedocrat, would you care then?

Liberals are called all of that and more. We just whine less.

 

[BirdinHand]

You don't care YET.

Would you care when I use the same sort of slurs in return?

If every time you post MAGAt, I said you were a libtard or a pedocrat, would you care then?

No.

Because I don’t take seriously anyone that has their username as any iteration of “Trump” or “MAGA”, etc to start with.

If a user’s entire identity on this site is tied directly to one politician, I don’t consider said user even capable of worthwhile debate or real engagement but instead a member of a cult blindly following one man.

 

[Hari Seldon]

In this case I'm speaking about the specific slur MAGAts or sometimes spelled MAGAT.

I"m certain if I used the f-word variant, the n-word, all these bitches, or called all Democrats Pedocrats or something along those lines, it wouldn't be tolerated.

So is MAGAT tolerated because everytime I read it my fingers really want to type PEDOCRAT or some appropriate return slur I will think up that I believe is just as clever.

Thanks in advance.

Magidiots acceptable?

 

[Peacenik]

In this case I'm speaking about the specific slur MAGAts or sometimes spelled MAGAT.

I"m certain if I used the f-word variant, the n-word, all these bitches, or called all Democrats Pedocrats or something along those lines, it wouldn't be tolerated.

So is MAGAT tolerated because everytime I read it my fingers really want to type PEDOCRAT or some appropriate return slur I will think up that I believe is just as clever.

Thanks in advance.

No. It's not polite.

However, the use of the word cult is not a slur because it meets the definition.

If somebody calls Trump supporters a derogatory name, and then you go and call Democrats by a derogatory name, that makes you no better than them because two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[Peacenik]

Should slurs be allowed for entire groups in discussions?​

Yes, since I use demorats and republicants to show disrespect for policy positions taken by them.

That doesn't justify it because two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[trumptman]

Liberals are called all of that and more. We just whine less.

Reporting indicates that is not true.

No.

Because I don’t take seriously anyone that has their username as any iteration of “Trump” or “MAGA”, etc to start with.

If a user’s entire identity on this site is tied directly to one politician, I don’t consider said user even capable of worthwhile debate or real engagement but instead a member of a cult blindly following one man.

Well you hit on one of the key issues when reading intent into words that can lead to big problems with slurs, flaming and so on.

My handle is TRUMPETMAN. It is spelled TRUMPT Man because internet spelling is cool and anyone who didn't get to jump onto the internet via AOL in 1994 had to take their second and third choice for handles.

You saw my handle and you assigned all manner of intent to it. You engaged in literal stereotyping. People do the same with slurs like MAGAt.

 

[trumptman]

That doesn't justify it because two wrongs do not make a right.

Two wrongs do not make a right. However when only one of the two wrongs are called wrong it does sort of make a right.

 

[zincwarrior]

IMHO, it’s akin to calling them maggots.

Yes, now I see. Thats uncool. If group names violate the DP policy then there is merit to arguing that should be excluded also.

As long as I can keep my 'nattering nabobs of negativity,' its ok.

 

[Redress]

Reporting indicates that is not true.

You might want to find a source with more accurate reporting...

 

[LouC]

IMHO, it’s akin to calling them maggots.

I could reply "and?"

But I think I will not.

 

[BirdinHand]

Reporting indicates that is not true.



Well you hit on one of the key issues when reading intent into words that can lead to big problems with slurs, flaming and so on.

My handle is TRUMPETMAN. It is spelled TRUMPT Man because internet spelling is cool and anyone who didn't get to jump onto the internet via AOL in 1994 had to take their second and third choice for handles.

You saw my handle and you assigned all manner of intent to it. You engaged in literal stereotyping. People do the same with slurs like MAGAt.

I believe you.

 

[trumptman]

Magidiots acceptable?

I doubt you accept the opposite. We've seen Democrats demand censorship repeatedly.

 

[Gaius46]

So you'll support my use of Pedocrat for Democrat? How about Libtard?

Go right ahead if you inisist on looking like an uneducated fool.

 

[Airyaman]

In this case I'm speaking about the specific slur MAGAts or sometimes spelled MAGAT.

I"m certain if I used the f-word variant, the n-word, all these bitches, or called all Democrats Pedocrats or something along those lines, it wouldn't be tolerated.

So is MAGAT tolerated because everytime I read it my fingers really want to type PEDOCRAT or some appropriate return slur I will think up that I believe is just as clever.

Thanks in advance.

What a whiny ass thread.