Should motorcycles be banned?

[Quag]

Splitting lanes is typically only allowed in very crowded cities (like LA), and in those circumstances, it's safer for the bike to split lanes.

It would be suicide to split lanes here. I cant see any way for it to be considered safer. Faster, reduce congestion a bit sure but safer???

 

[Quag]

If you notice them, it's the right kind of attention.

When the boys in blue notice you its the wrong kind

 

[Ikari]

It would be suicide to split lanes here. I cant see any way for it to be considered safer. Faster, reduce congestion a bit sure but safer???

It's because jackasses don't pay attention when driving, and bikes can make movements a bit quicker. So in heavy traffic, rear-ends are not uncommon, and when a car rear-ends a bike it's bad news for the biker. In heavy traffic, splitting lanes is safer for the rider.

 

[Quag]

It's because jackasses don't pay attention when driving, and bikes can make movements a bit quicker. So in heavy traffic, rear-ends are not uncommon, and when a car rear-ends a bike it's bad news for the biker. In heavy traffic, splitting lanes is safer for the rider.

Again it would be suicide here, cars change lanes constantly in heavy trafic and no one signals. No way a biker would survive for long doing so.

It isn't just jackasses BTW. Most non bikers are looking for a car or larger when driving, their mind ignores smaller objects like bikes (with/without engines). It isn't that they dont care it just that their minds are programmed that way.

 

[Ikari]

When the boys in blue notice you its the wrong kind

Maybe...but til then, if other motorists notice them, it's good.

 

[Ikari]

Again it would be suicide here, cars change lanes constantly in heavy trafic and no one signals. No way a biker would survive for long doing so.

It isn't just jackasses BTW. Most non bikers are looking for a car or larger when driving, their mind ignores smaller objects like bikes (with/without engines). It isn't that they dont care it just that their minds are programmed that way.

Yeah, I said, people are jackasses. And if people are whipping about 2 tons of metal and plastic with no regards to their surroundings...they're jackasses.

 

[clownboy]

Note to dude on loud bike I can hear two blocks away: You will be shocked at this, but I am not impressed.

South Park got it right:

 

[Quag]

Yeah, I said, people are jackasses. And if people are whipping about 2 tons of metal and plastic with no regards to their surroundings...they're jackasses.

Ok they are jackasses you will still be dead or at least inured with a damaged/destroyed bike if you attempt that here. There is no way in Hell it is safer to split lanes than stay in your lane here..

 

[Patrickt]

There seems to be a segment of our society that gets aroused at the thought of banning something. It's like Viagra for them. Whether it's Happy Meals, Big Gulps, smoking, or books, banning is exciting for them.

Of course, motorcycles shouldn't be banned. Neither should Vegans, Democrats, or private planes.

 

[Quag]

Maybe...but til then, if other motorists notice them, it's good.

No its just being a jackass.
You got loud pipes you deserve large tickets.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Maybe...but til then, if other motorists notice them, it's good.

A car v bike accident where the car pulls out or turns into the path of an approaching bike, (aka a SMIDSY) the classic driver response Sorry Mate I Didn't See You!

If he hears you he might look more!

 

[SMTA]

I am not sure that self harm and effectively suicide is a right.

Nor is the right to public stupidity, but we tolerate such morons because it is fair.

 

[d0gbreath]

Leave me and my bike alone. I wear a helmet.

 

[Thrilla]

No its just being a jackass.
You got loud pipes you deserve large tickets.

it's rare that tickets are written for loud pipes...primarily because cops know it's a very easy ticket to beat in court.

"fix it tickets" are written here and there though... primary in nanny states like Cali....

I've run shorty drag pipes on almost all of my sleds, and have since the 60's... I've never been ticketed even once <shrug>
if anything, loud pipes ensures drivers behind me know i'm there... even if they can't see me.
they don't gain attention from drivers in front of you , but nothing is perfect.

 

[Thrilla]

A car v bike accident where the car pulls out or turns into the path of an approaching bike, (aka a SMIDSY) the classic driver response Sorry Mate I Didn't See You!

If he hears you he might look more!

that's the theory, but drivers in front of you normally won't hear you, even with loud pipes.....pipes are much much louder behind you ( basic acoustics)

 

[Thrilla]

It would be suicide to split lanes here. I cant see any way for it to be considered safer. Faster, reduce congestion a bit sure but safer???

lane splitting at high speed is dangerous... at moderate or low speed, it's very much safer for the rider.

not perfectly safe, but safer.

 

[Ikari]

Ok they are jackasses you will still be dead or at least inured with a damaged/destroyed bike if you attempt that here. There is no way in Hell it is safer to split lanes than stay in your lane here..

That's why it's only legal in certain areas. People have to have some amount of civility for it to work. But still, in congested areas it is safer for the rider to split lanes.

 

[DA60]

I ride motorcycles.

And if I want to risk my life riding them, that's my business and NOT anyone else's.

 

[Ikari]

No its just being a jackass.
You got loud pipes you deserve large tickets.

While it can be taken to ridiculous levels, you yourself posted the entire reason why loud pipes save lives.

Again it would be suicide here, cars change lanes constantly in heavy trafic and no one signals.

To a certain degree, loud pipes brings attention to the rider.

 

[TheGoverness]

Just basic statistics.

No. End of story.

 

[Ikari]

lane splitting at high speed is dangerous... at moderate or low speed, it's very much safer for the rider.

not perfectly safe, but safer.

Oh yes, of course. In congested areas where people are going slow, it can help. And the rider needs to be traveling cautiously as well. All parties need to be aware of and participating in their surroundings.

 

[SCitizen]

Ban them. Round them all up, by force, if necessary. And execute everyone who has ever even thought of owning a motorcycle. No more coddling, get these menaces off the damn road.

Criminalizing them is a bad idea. Better overtaxing them to reduce their popularity.

 

[SCitizen]

There seems to be a segment of our society that gets aroused at the thought of banning something.

Maybe imposing sin tax on them would be better -- in Norway gasoline costs $10/gallon. In USA, alcoholic beverages are expensive due to taxes.

 

[SCitizen]

I ride motorcycles.

And if I want to risk my life riding them, that's my business and NOT anyone else's.

But dangerous drugs are illegal.

 

[Dragonfly]

But dangerous drugs are illegal.

Dude. Shut it. For christ sakes....