Serve and Protect

[TNAR]

I continually see cases such as this example of Baltimore's finest and figured there should be a home for jewels such as this.

 

[dontworrybehappy]

I continually see cases such as this example of Baltimore's finest and figured there should be a home for jewels such as this.

Well, he got fired and I doubt with a video like that out, he'll ever be a cop again. He didn't really do anything that should get him killed.

 

[TNAR]

Well, he got fired and I doubt with a video like that out, he'll ever be a cop again. He didn't really do anything that should get him killed.

As he should have. I don't think anyone would have suggested he should be killed for it. Sheesh!

 

[TNAR]

More finest.

 

[Excon]

The first officer has a point.

He shouldn't have been fired for it though. Disciplined - Yes. Fired - No.
Just my two cents.




Side note.
As this just happened.

I have this habit of picking up the phone when I do not know who is calling, telemarketers and such, and just letting them listen to what ever it is I am listening to at that moment, before I hang-up.
Do you see where this is going?

I was watching the initial video and when a call came in, the portion that they heard on the other end was from 2:03 to 2:08.

Talk about unfortunate timing. :doh

I hope it goes unnoticed.

 

[Johnnydavids]

Wow... the police video

 

[sangha]

The first officer has a point.

He shouldn't have been fired for it though. Disciplined - Yes. Fired - No.
Just my two cents.




Side note.
As this just happened.

I have this habit of picking up the phone when I do not know who is calling, telemarketers and such, and just letting them listen to what ever it is I am listening to at that moment, before I hang-up.
Do you see where this is going?

I was watching the initial video and when a call came in, the portion that they heard on the other end was from 2:03 to 2:08.

Talk about unfortunate timing. :doh

I hope it goes unnoticed.

I tell them that I'm really interested in whatever it is that they're selling, but could they just hold on for a minute because someone's knocking at my door

Then I put the phone down and leave it there

 

[lpast]

When people fight to lower the standards to allow people that should have been able to even apply for the job WIN...what you get is what you get....and thats what happened to Police in a nutshell....you reap what you sow

 

[TNAR]

Don't forget that every occupation attracts people who are interested in the job for one reason or another. For example, teachers might enjoy teaching, doctors might enjoy healing, etc. While it is certainly true that a vast majority (I would hope) of police officers have a strong desire to defend innocent people and perform some sort of justice in their own mind, it cannot be ignored that many people are attracted to the power and "beyond-the-law" aspects of the job. This, coincidentally, is a big reason why most politicians are dirty rats.

 

[Sarcogito]

I used to have a lot of respect for the profession. I almost became a police officer myself until my red-green color blindness disqualified me. I ended up going into the military instead. I am glad I didn’t become one, however. Yes, I believe many people go into the job because they are power hungry, but I also think many, if not most, go into it because they want to serve their community. That was my intent. But I think the job changes people. Most cops end up either abusing their authority, looking the other way when other cops abuse their authority, report the bad cops thus ruining their own career, or just get fed up and leave the force.

If you allow other cops to abuse their authority you are a BAD cop. And if you are a good cop, you won’t last, at least not in a large city. It is the way the system currently is. I don’t know how to fix it. Perhaps increasing the pay and education requirements would help. Make it easier to sue cops who abuse their authority. Stop recruiting Internal Affairs officers from the general police pool. Even then it probably won’t fix the problem.

So while I still respect the idea of the job, in reality I have lost most of my respect for it. There is just so much abuse going on I can’t ignore it. And before anyone asks, yes, we need a police force.

 

[StillBallin75]

I used to have a lot of respect for the profession. I almost became a police officer myself until my red-green color blindness disqualified me. I ended up going into the military instead. I am glad I didn’t become one, however. Yes, I believe many people go into the job because they are power hungry, but I also think many, if not most, go into it because they want to serve their community. That was my intent. But I think the job changes people. Most cops end up either abusing their authority, looking the other way when other cops abuse their authority, report the bad cops thus ruining their own career, or just get fed up and leave the force.

If you allow other cops to abuse their authority you are a BAD cop. And if you are a good cop, you won’t last, at least not in a large city. It is the way the system currently is. I don’t know how to fix it. Perhaps increasing the pay and education requirements would help. Make it easier to sue cops who abuse their authority. Stop recruiting Internal Affairs officers from the general police pool. Even then it probably won’t fix the problem.

So while I still respect the idea of the job, in reality I have lost most of my respect for it. There is just so much abuse going on I can’t ignore it. And before anyone asks, yes, we need a police force.

The military doesn't disqualify red-green color blindness? Did you have to get a waiver something or is that actually a plus (better night vision perhaps?)

 

[Aderleth]

I continually see cases such as this example of Baltimore's finest and figured there should be a home for jewels such as this.

I swear I've seen this before. Possibly a several years ago. Obviously it's pretty egregiously retarded cop behavior. Does anyone know whatever happened with this? If I were that kid's father I would have gone ape**** on the department that hired that jackass.

Also, there's a slightly funnier version of this video that goes a little bit longer into the cop wondering whether or not he's been filmed.

 

[sangha]

I used to have a lot of respect for the profession. I almost became a police officer myself until my red-green color blindness disqualified me. I ended up going into the military instead. I am glad I didn’t become one, however. Yes, I believe many people go into the job because they are power hungry, but I also think many, if not most, go into it because they want to serve their community. That was my intent. But I think the job changes people. Most cops end up either abusing their authority, looking the other way when other cops abuse their authority, report the bad cops thus ruining their own career, or just get fed up and leave the force.

If you allow other cops to abuse their authority you are a BAD cop. And if you are a good cop, you won’t last, at least not in a large city. It is the way the system currently is. I don’t know how to fix it. Perhaps increasing the pay and education requirements would help. Make it easier to sue cops who abuse their authority. Stop recruiting Internal Affairs officers from the general police pool. Even then it probably won’t fix the problem.

So while I still respect the idea of the job, in reality I have lost most of my respect for it. There is just so much abuse going on I can’t ignore it. And before anyone asks, yes, we need a police force.

I agree with everything you just said

 

[Aderleth]

To answer my own question, I did a little research into what happened after this video and found this:

Baltimore Crime Beat: Harbor cop who yelled at skateboarder gets suit dismissed - Baltimore crime news: Police, courts and police stories in the city and central Maryland - baltimoresun.com

That asshole cop managed to get the civil lawsuit dismissed. I find that baffling. I'm a lawyer. The officer was caught on camera committing assault and battery against a thoroughly non-threatening child. How the hell does that suit get dismissed?

I may have to research the judge's opinion now.

 

[Sarcogito]

The military doesn't disqualify red-green color blindness? Did you have to get a waiver something or is that actually a plus (better night vision perhaps?)

Most MOSs do disqualify on it. I scored a 99 on my ASVAB with a 129 GT score. So the recruiter was all excited, telling me I could do any job in the Army. But once he saw I had red-green color blindness that field narrowed down significantly. I basically had to choose between admin and finance related MOSs. I HAD wanted to be a Scout. I couldn’t even become an Army vet tech even though that was what I did in the civilian world. At the time I knew nothing about waivers and my recruiter didn’t mention them. I entered as a Personnel Administration Specialist, 75B. Once I learned the system I eventually maneuvered my way into intel and eventually became a warrant officer despite my color vision.

 

[Caine]

I used to have a lot of respect for the profession. I almost became a police officer myself until my red-green color blindness disqualified me. I ended up going into the military instead. I am glad I didn’t become one, however. Yes, I believe many people go into the job because they are power hungry, but I also think many, if not most, go into it because they want to serve their community. That was my intent. But I think the job changes people. Most cops end up either abusing their authority, looking the other way when other cops abuse their authority, report the bad cops thus ruining their own career, or just get fed up and leave the force.

If you allow other cops to abuse their authority you are a BAD cop. And if you are a good cop, you won’t last, at least not in a large city. It is the way the system currently is. I don’t know how to fix it. Perhaps increasing the pay and education requirements would help. Make it easier to sue cops who abuse their authority. Stop recruiting Internal Affairs officers from the general police pool. Even then it probably won’t fix the problem.

So while I still respect the idea of the job, in reality I have lost most of my respect for it. There is just so much abuse going on I can’t ignore it. And before anyone asks, yes, we need a police force.

I didn't get into Policing because I was power hungry.

I got into policing because it was the easiest transition from military life for a guy who needed a decent job and didn't have a degree after getting out of the Army.

In a nutshell....

 

[lpast]

I swear I've seen this before. Possibly a several years ago. Obviously it's pretty egregiously retarded cop behavior. Does anyone know whatever happened with this? If I were that kid's father I would have gone ape**** on the department that hired that jackass.

Also, there's a slightly funnier version of this video that goes a little bit longer into the cop wondering whether or not he's been filmed.

Thats an old video

 

[lpast]

I didn't get into Policing because I was power hungry.

I got into policing because it was the easiest transition from military life for a guy who needed a decent job and didn't have a degree after getting out of the Army.

In a nutshell....

I wanted a steady job...I was fresh out of the military and I was a better physical specimen than I was an great intellect....surprising how many fail and never make the grade....we all undergo a psychological of tests and strict background tests.
I dont know how long brother caine has been in law enforcement...but the standards have been shredded since I first passed the test.
We took a REAL physical accruity test...you couldnt have anything on your rap sheet you had to be lily clean...couldnt wear eyeglass' or contacts...there was a minimum size and weight and a maximum size and weight...there were no 5.5 cops and there were no 350lb cops.....

 

[Ryanm]

I used to have a lot of respect for the profession. I almost became a police officer myself until my red-green color blindness disqualified me. I ended up going into the military instead. I am glad I didn’t become one, however. Yes, I believe many people go into the job because they are power hungry, but I also think many, if not most, go into it because they want to serve their community. That was my intent. But I think the job changes people. Most cops end up either abusing their authority, looking the other way when other cops abuse their authority, report the bad cops thus ruining their own career, or just get fed up and leave the force.

If you allow other cops to abuse their authority you are a BAD cop. And if you are a good cop, you won’t last, at least not in a large city. It is the way the system currently is. I don’t know how to fix it. Perhaps increasing the pay and education requirements would help. Make it easier to sue cops who abuse their authority. Stop recruiting Internal Affairs officers from the general police pool. Even then it probably won’t fix the problem.

So while I still respect the idea of the job, in reality I have lost most of my respect for it. There is just so much abuse going on I can’t ignore it. And before anyone asks, yes, we need a police force.

Nicely said. We need more well educated police. A lot of people want cops to be dumb though. That's job security for lawyers. If all the cops knew how an arrest would turn out in court then we could skip a lot of useless/wrongful arresting and then we would have a lot of unemployed lawyers, judges, corrections officer(prison guards), and probation/parole officers. The powers that be today would likely oppose increasing education requirments.

Edit: I disagree that, "If you allow other cops to abuse their authority you are a BAD cop." It could mean you're a great cop, but you don't want to stir **** up. It's like many job with safety rules. If you always follow the safety rules, but you see another employee break the rule does it make you an unsafe person for not going and tattling on them; I think not.

A few bad cops give the masses a bad wrap. You never hear about the good things the peace officers do.

 

[Utility Man]

This video contain coarse language(profanity).

 

[Ryanm]

This was also in Maryland. That guy was defended by the Maryland state police commisioner publically. He did not lose his job. There are clearly a lack of checks and balances on thugs like that guy. If that happened in a right to carry state and someone pulled a gun and shot and killed his ass because he failed to ID himself as a cop immediately, they would obviously have been proescuted for murder, and wrongly so if you ask me. That's just how screwed up things are.

Just to throw this out in advance, no one ever said being a cop is supposed to be an easy job.

Edit: And let's not forget that they even tried this man on the motorcycle for violating a wire tap law because he had a camera in his helmet. A few days after this happened the police got a warrant to go into his house and take a bunch of **** from him because this video was recorded. Abuse of power. Period.

 

[Ryanm]

This video contain coarse language(profanity).

That's hilarious. One type of good cop^ Definitely "keepin' it real."

 

[Caine]

I wanted a steady job...I was fresh out of the military and I was a better physical specimen than I was an great intellect....surprising how many fail and never make the grade....we all undergo a psychological of tests and strict background tests.
I dont know how long brother caine has been in law enforcement...but the standards have been shredded since I first passed the test.
We took a REAL physical accruity test...you couldnt have anything on your rap sheet you had to be lily clean...couldnt wear eyeglass' or contacts...there was a minimum size and weight and a maximum size and weight...there were no 5.5 cops and there were no 350lb cops.....

I don't understand the purpose behind any of those restrictions that began with "could wear eyeglasses or contacts" and continuing from there.

 

[ric27]

I continually see cases such as this example of Baltimore's finest and figured there should be a home for jewels such as this.

We all have our 10% -The 10% rule is universal. It may vary up, but never down.

 

[Ryanm]

It irks me when I see news where some officer breaks a law or is involved in some scandal and all that happens is that they aren't a cop anymore. They should be held to the same standards as the rest of us, if not more so.