Gay rights groups were upset that the process Reid employed may have undermined progress in repealing the Pentagon’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy prohibiting gays from serving openly in the military.
Hispanic groups were disappointed that they couldn’t even get a vote on a narrow piece of comprehensive immigration reform — an amendment known as the DREAM Act that would have enabled citizenship for illegal immigrant students in exchange for government or military service.
And Democrats on both sides of the Capitol are unhappy that a debate on gay rights and immigration distracted yet again from issue No. 1: jobs.
The next 2 years are going to suck for Republicans a great deal. They won't be able to do ****.
please watch your language
we are in opposition, friend, he's still president
respect yourself, hang in
Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
It's a great strategy to chalk this up to a failure of leadership by Reid and Obama. This way the blame for what happens is pulled off the Senators who participated in the filibuster, and whether you're for or against the repeal of DATD you can vent your frustration on the two of them rather than on the Senators who are actually at fault here.
Prof,
No Super Majority means no progress for Republican positions. Not only can they not get 60 votes in the Senate, but they also can't get Obama to sign off on them. The next 2 years are going to suck for Republicans a great deal. They won't be able to do ****.
Actually if you stop to think about it its perfect. Obama will continue to fail and the best part is his reign of destructive bills will come to a spectaular halt.
We will use that to weed out more of the bile infecting Congress and of course the Presidency
Doesn't matter. Even if an act of Congress repealed DADT but left the rulestanding, it is within the President's ability to overturn.
We should just change the constitution to say 60 votes in the senate already. That's the point we've come to anyway, thanks to the idiotic filibuster rules the Senate has.
Have at it. Maybe you can even have Palin run and win in 2012. The Mayans did say the world was going to end by then. You might as well do your best to fulfill the prophesy.
I think Republicans are in deep. Nobody in history has used filibuster while in a minority as much as they have this last year. I think we now have a government where you need 60 votes in Congress before you can get anything passed, no matter how popular it is. If 75% of Americans can support repeal of DADT and it can get shut down, then nothing is too popular to be shot down by filibuster.
So what's stopping him?
An act of Congress.
In other words, there's a Federal law that needs to be repealed or modified appropriately, after which it would actually mean something for the President to overturn the DoD regulation banning homosexuals from the military.
I sure hope the Republicans are ready to need a 60-vote majority to do anything the next time they think they've got the upper hand.
I would tend to agree.
The fact is, both major parties suffer from the same neurosis -- republican (not to be confused with Republican) principles and the will of the people are fine things, provided that in practice they agree with their own agenda.
It's not even a question of ending riders on spending bills, it's more a matter of stopping the constant "gotcha" bull****.
I sure hope the Republicans are ready to need a 60-vote majority to do anything the next time they think they've got the upper hand.
Surprise buttsecks. You never expect it. :ninja:Right.
Because the gay and bisexual men in the armed services are known for hiding in foxholes, waiting for the perfect moment to shed their cover and strike by surprise with their deadly blade of disease-ridden death.
:lol:
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