Russian Arctic Build Up

[beerftw]

It looks like more of a Panama Canal bypass than the Suez. And, even that looks limited.

If you thought of it as a panama canal type bypass or an alternative to the suez you thought wrong. Reality says it would be an alternative for countries in northern europe to trade with the americas, places like russia switzerland sweden greenland etc to have alternate routes to trade with america canada and mexico without doing a long winded route, ie being more direct route. Russia obviously has an interest in it, as even if it is not the direct shipper, it's ports would gain extra bussiness by being the inbetween, which for them means plenty of extra cash.

 

[Ringo Stalin]

Russia has a military presence "inside its own borders"!!!.
I suppose NATO countries—which are used to having their military "outside their borders", often illegally—find this alarming.

 

[tecoyah]

Thing is Mr.Stalin.....NATO never attacks people outside its "Borders" and Russia often does. Thus do nations get concerned when they move weapons.

 

[Ringo Stalin]

Thing is Mr.Stalin.....NATO never attacks people outside its "Borders" and Russia often does.

Are you kidding me? Or did you just come from another planet?

 

[tecoyah]

Are you kidding me? Or did you just come from another planet?

I kid you not....they defend attacked members comrade.

 

[Ringo Stalin]

I kid you not....they defend attacked members comrade.

In Yugoslavia? in Libya?

 

[tecoyah]

In Yugoslavia? in Libya?

Unfortunately Mr. Stalin, the world outside of Russia has access to free information and we are allowed to see whole stories to formulate opinion and thought vs. state run propaganda.

 

[Ringo Stalin]

Unfortunately Mr. Stalin, the world outside of Russia has access to free information and we are allowed to see whole stories to formulate opinion and thought vs. state run propaganda.

I repeat. In Yugoslavia? In Libya?

 

[tecoyah]

I repeat. In Yugoslavia? In Libya?

U.N. peacekeeping missions are not invasion and trying to stop genocide is certainly not what your hero Stalin did.

 

[Ringo Stalin]

U.N. peacekeeping missions are not invasion

Aaa... O.K. "Yugoslav terrorist anti-aircraft guns treacherously fired at our democratic planes, which were peacefully bombing their totalitarian cities". (с) Democratic free press.

 

[tecoyah]

"

The NATO bombing of Yugoslavia was the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation's (NATO) military operation against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War.
The Yugoslavs had killed 1,500[28] to 2,131 combatants,[29] while choosing to heavily target Kosovar Albanian civilians, with 8,676 killed or missing[29] and some 848,000 expelled from Kosovo.[30] The NATO bombing killed about 1,000 members of the Yugoslav security forces in addition to between 489 and 528 civilians. It destroyed or damaged bridges, industrial plants, hospitals, schools, cultural monuments, private businesses as well as barracks and military installations. In the days after the Yugoslav army withdrew, over 164,000 Serbs and 24,000 Roma left Kosovo. Many of the remaining non-Albanian civilians (as well as Albanians perceived as collaborators) were victims of abuse which included beatings, abductions, and murders.[31][32][33][34][35] After Kosovo and other Yugoslav Wars, Serbia became home to the highest number of refugees and IDPs (including Kosovo Serbs) in Europe.[36][37][38]
The bombing was NATO's second major combat operation, following the 1995 bombing campaign in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was the first time that NATO had used military force without the expressed endorsement of the UN Security Council, which triggered debates over the legitimacy of the intervention."

NATO bombing of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia

 

[Tigerace117]

I repeat. In Yugoslavia? In Libya?

You can weep for the genocidal thug Milosevic and the terrorist supporting serial rapist Gaddafi all you want, but their own actions are what caused NATO to step in

 

[Ringo Stalin]

You can weep for the genocidal thug Milosevic and the terrorist supporting serial rapist Gaddafi all you want, but their own actions are what caused NATO to step in

How convenient it is... If not genocide, then a lack of democracy. If not the lack of democracy, then the oil sources belonging to western democracies, on which some countries are brazenly located. In general, a bully will always find a reason why he will attack a passerby.

 

[Tigerace117]

How convenient it is... If not genocide, then a lack of democracy. If not the lack of democracy, then the oil sources belonging to western democracies, on which some countries are brazenly located. In general, a bully will always find a reason why he will attack a passerby.

Hilarious that you think putting a stop to genocide is “bullying”.

 

[Fledermaus]

How convenient it is... If not genocide, then a lack of democracy. If not the lack of democracy, then the oil sources belonging to western democracies, on which some countries are brazenly located. In general, a bully will always find a reason why he will attack a passerby.

Crimea.

Georgia.

The Baltics.

 

[Ringo Stalin]

Crimea.

Georgia.

The Baltics.

What about Crimea? 96% of population voted to get the hell out of fashist Ukraine, after the fashist coup, that for some reason, was supported by USA. And thanks God, there was a russian naval base there. The ukrainian fascist stormtroopers did not dare to venture into the Crimea. There is such an anecdote:
They ask a Ukrainian nationalist:
- Why are you attacking the Donbass?
But there are russian troops there!
- Then why don't you attack Crimea?
You're kidding! There are REALLY russian troops there!
*
Georgia? What about it? On the orders of the war criminal Saakashvili, georgian troops shelled South Ossetia at night and then attacked it. At the same time, russian soldiers, representatives of the peacekeeping group, that was there according to the agreements, were killed.
You see, unlike the United States, Russia has been in such a position throughout its history, that it did not have to invent reasons for war. (The Gulf of Tonkin incident, etc.)
*
What about Baltics?

 

[Fledermaus]

What about Crimea? 96% of population voted to get the hell out of fashist Ukraine, after the fashist coup, that for some reason, was supported by USA. And thanks God, there was a russian naval base there. The ukrainian fascist stormtroopers did not dare to venture into the Crimea. There is such an anecdote:
They ask a Ukrainian nationalist:
- Why are you attacking the Donbass?
But there are russian troops there!
- Then why don't you attack Crimea?
You're kidding! There are REALLY russian troops there!
*
Georgia? What about it? On the orders of the war criminal Saakashvili, georgian troops shelled South Ossetia at night and then attacked it. At the same time, russian soldiers, representatives of the peacekeeping group, that was there according to the agreements, were killed.
You see, unlike the United States, Russia has been in such a position throughout its history, that it did not have to invent reasons for war. (The Gulf of Tonkin incident, etc.)
*
What about Baltics?

Crimea was illegally annexed by the Russian Federation.

Period.

It matters not what the number of ethnic Russians lived there.

The annexation was illegal.

All the false claims of fascism mean nothing.

 

[Ringo Stalin]

Crimea was illegally annexed by the Russian Federation.

All the false claims of fascism mean nothing.

The transfer of Crimea by Khrushchev was illegal, yes, because it was done in violation of Soviet laws. No one was particularly interested in this at that time, since it was one state. The collapse of the USSR also was committed in violation of soviet laws, too. But you seem to be interested only in those laws, that are beneficial to you? This is an example of the typical rules and laws of the underworld. All their rules do not apply to them and they can always circumvent or break them.

And the fact that you do not know that the nazis rule in Ukraine, only says that you get information from the most "free and truthful media".

 

[Dayton3]

And the fact that you do not know that the nazis rule in Ukraine

Prove it.

 

[Fledermaus]

The transfer of Crimea by Khrushchev was illegal, yes, because it was done in violation of Soviet laws. No one was particularly interested in this at that time, since it was one state. The collapse of the USSR also was committed in violation of soviet laws, too. But you seem to be interested only in those laws, that are beneficial to you? This is an example of the typical rules and laws of the underworld. All their rules do not apply to them and they can always circumvent or break them.

And the fact that you do not know that the nazis rule in Ukraine, only says that you get information from the most "free and truthful media".

Time to first lie... First sentence.