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Russia probe: Democrats block key witness against shadowy firm Fusion GPS

Must feel good saying that after 8 years of you doing exactly that....What I am bringing up here is the larger picture of how democrats are extremely hypocritical in all of this Russia crap....And all you can do is dismiss it with childish pokes....Whatever, debate yourself.

Yeah, that's because Democrats get the easy job of being the opposition. To paraphrase Paul Ryan, "governing is hard."



What's telling is that you care more about Democratic hypocrisy than what Republicans do. IOKIYAR.
 
Testimony is delayed all the time. You're trying hard to make a big deal out of a 24 hour delay of testimony anyone can google and find in 1 minute like I just did, but it's not working. His testimony is on the record, his written statement is in the record, his testimony was videotaped and is available for anyone to see, unlike that of Kushner and Don Jr. There is no conspiracy to prevent this guy's story from getting out - it's OUT.

Please stop confusing them with provable facts .
 
All fine and good, expect that this 'dossier' is complete crap! So it becomes about the 'narrative', or propaganda if you will....And I am increasingly disappointed in my own reps that can't break through this garbage to get to the bottom of anything because we have members in our own ranks that are undermining that effort out of pure hatred of the man elected.

Of course the dossier is complete crap. Everyone knows that. But how it was born, who the parents and midwife were, and who delivered the ugly baby is what needs to be investigated and exposed.
Yes, it was part of the narrative and yes, there are as many Republicans who are afraid of media treatment as there are Democratics who rely on it.
If the Republicans ever get to a point that they think it's to their advantage to change their approach, only then will they decide to "break through the garbage".
 
I want you to think about what you typed and I bolded above from your post there, then ask yourself what all the hub bub over Donald jr. was about.....
The hub hub was because he lied about the nature of the meeting and the people who attended the meeting.

Do you really think people were complaining because the meeting was illegal? It is just one drip of information the Trump campaign hid until they got caught thus why there is suspicion that there is more being hidden.

Do you really think if the shoe was on Hillary's foot that Trump would not be making claims that is shady as f? It is time to at least recognize that.

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You are intentionally ignoring the point....

No, I'm pointing out the delay by a day of testimony I've already linked to is not a big deal.
 
Maybe that was because Trump's campaign manager was paid by the Russians to support Putin's puppet in Ukraine? The Ukrainians are under attack by Putin daily and he has stolen parts of their country. It makes sense that they would want to help someone that opposed him.
Putin can never match our military, rebuilt or not but he has succeeded in electing a man who has greatly diminished our influence and prestige in the world. So there's that.

The Ukrainians are under attack by Putin daily and he has stolen parts of their country. What?

1) Try to learn what's going on. If Russia wanted to invade Ukraine they would be on the Dneiper River
within a week & be at Lviv the real heartland of the coup within a fortnight. Russia merely
aided the 3 eastern provinces.

After the coup deposing Yanukovich these alienated the people of Donetsk and Lugansk
& Crimea who, having a president THEY voted for, thought Ukraine already had a democracy.
Crimea and neighboring Sevastopol -- the two newly annexed portions of Russia -- were certainly bastions
of support for Yanukovych in the 2010 election. But while they came close to providing his entire national
margin of victory, they fell a bit short, providing 90 percent of Yanukovych’s winning margin.

Now you tell me if Crimea wanted to stay with Ukraine?


Almost immediately after ultra right wing Ukranian Nationalist overthrew
Yanukovich the entire Ukraine navy had “defected” to the Crimea region, pledging allegiance
to its unrecognised pro-Russian leader and surrendering the country's Sevastopol headquarters.


In the last legitimate election (Carter was a watchdog there)
with all regions participating the Eastern provinces voted accordingly:
For Yanukovich
'Crimea 78.24%
Donetsk region 90.44%
Luhansk region Yanukovich 88.96% Tymoshenko 7.72%'

In western Ukraine the voting was strikingly different with Tymoshenko who opposed Russian influence
receiving equally dominant support:
'Volyn region 81.85%
Ivano-Frankivsk region 88.89%
Lviv region 86.20%
Ternopil region 88.39%'
'

This so-called country is as split as the US was in 1861.
In every Uke election since nominal independence in the 90's except 1,
the Russian leaning candidate won. How the Lviv element of Poles & Lithuanians managed control
even a piece of this mostly Slavic country is astonishing.
Apparently some think the Galician culture have to be the only culture allowed in Ukraine?
'The idea of replacing the Cyrillic alphabet in the Ukrainian language with the Latin one for the sake of
“Eurointegration” is very close to heart of the Galician thinkers.'
 
Maybe that was because Trump's campaign manager was paid by the Russians to support Putin's puppet in Ukraine? The Ukrainians are under attack by Putin daily and he has stolen parts of their country. It makes sense that they would want to help someone that opposed him.
Putin can never match our military, rebuilt or not but he has succeeded in electing a man who has greatly diminished our influence and prestige in the world. So there's that.

Trump's campaign manager was paid by the Russians to support Putin's puppet in Ukraine?

That's what lobbyists do for a living Manafort's clients through the years

1) Jonas Savimbi, the leader of the Angolan rebel group UNITA,
2) Lobbied for then-president of the Philippines Ferdinand Marcos.
3) Lobbied for Edouard Balladur in the 1995 French elections
4) Lobbied for Kashmiri people.
5) Lobbying for Viktor Yanukovych
6) Probably a few more foreign leaders

BTW, Viktor Yanukovych was not putin's puppet, Viktor Yanukovych was the last fairly elected
leader of Ukraine when Ukraine was unified, all of Ujraine knew he leaned toward Russia
and they voted him to office by a 49 to 46 margin
 
Anybody with two working brain cells hates Hillary. It's a given.

Only one brain cell is required to figure out Trump. Still working on that one eh?
 
Well, to be precise, there are Liberals in Government and media, and there are Liberals who listen to those in Government and media.
I think the former know what had been going on and saw it as a way to score political points if they made the first accusation. So it became their strategy and they ran with things like the dossier. They aren't the dumb ones.
The latter simply believe the former because they want to and some are, well, they're suckers. Those are the dumb ones.
Those are all reasons the Party can get away with it while avoiding their own malfeasance but the primary reason is the Party/Media axis.
But if it becomes unavoidable that the Party gets even more clearly connected to that dossier and what Wasserman's boys were doing then the axis will have a tough time covering it up.

Yeah, we idiots know the IC has been investigating this stuff for well over a year later, and of course it's obvious that all those guys in CIA, FBI, NSA etc. are just a bunch of GD lying liberals who have maintained a charade all this time for nothing. And Mueller, who has no history of being a partisan, took this job and is gearing up with a bunch of high profile, very successful people who are also just GD lying liberals out to get Trump based on nothing. And if this all isn't obvious to you, if you think that maybe the professionals in the IC aren't all a bunch of partisan hacks, that Mueller isn't a partisan hack, that there's a reason for the year long investigation, and believe that guys with solid reputations already established have no reason to join Mueller unless there is something there, then you're just a gullible idiot.

Right, great balanced analysis.
 
Of course the dossier is complete crap. Everyone knows that. But how it was born, who the parents and midwife were, and who delivered the ugly baby is what needs to be investigated and exposed.

It is clear that this steaming pile was not only commissioned by the Hillary campaign, but compiled by a group alligned with the democrat party using a British smear merchant, using Russian sourcing...

"But, Browder offered up an even more interesting tidbit of information, a tidbit that has been completely ignored by the mainstream media, that served to undermine the left's entire 'Russian collusion' narrative when he confirmed that Fusion GPS, the now infamous firm behind the 'Trump Dossier', was actually being paid by....wait for it....the Russians."

Hermitage Capital Founder Testifies That Fusion GPS (Trump Dossier Creator) Worked For Russian Government | Zero Hedge

Yes, it was part of the narrative and yes, there are as many Republicans who are afraid of media treatment as there are Democratics who rely on it.

I would say that is due to the "media" largely being democrat operatives as of late rather than the journalists they are supposed to be....

If the Republicans ever get to a point that they think it's to their advantage to change their approach, only then will they decide to "break through the garbage".

Change their approach? To what? Hell, there are Republican's working toward democrat goals of undermining Trump to serve their own ends, (McCain).....What the heck are Republican' supposed to change in their approach to? Should we have to ask permission from Democrats to govern? Really?
 
The hub hub was because he lied about the nature of the meeting and the people who attended the meeting.

Do you really think people were complaining because the meeting was illegal? It is just one drip of information the Trump campaign hid until they got caught thus why there is suspicion that there is more being hidden.

Do you really think if the shoe was on Hillary's foot that Trump would not be making claims that is shady as f? It is time to at least recognize that.

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Yeah? what exactly did he lie about?
 
Lied and omitted? You really don't know? That is sad.

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Yeah, and it seems you can't tell me what he "lied" about either....So all you are doing is repeating talking points with no substance to back up your claims....Checkmate.
 
Really? So when is the last time this rule was used? Do you know?

It happened in 2013.

The Senate Finance Committee's hearing to consider President Barack Obama's nominee to run the IRS became the latest casualty of procedural sparring on Tuesday.

Republicans invoked the Senate's rule against holding committee meetings beyond the first two hours of the Senate's day with respect to the Finance panel's nomination hearing on John Andrew Koskinen to be commissioner of the IRS.

GOP Deploys Two-Hour Rule to Stall IRS Nominee Hearing
 
They block this guy for one day in protest of the Republicans ****ing up the nations Health Care system which is a huge chunk of our entire economy...
One day...and you think they are lying...and are hiding something? His written testimony was already delivered, and it's 24 hours later he gives his testimony.

No, your attempt to spin this falls flat, just as the original source does. Anyone with a brain can understand that it causes reschedule for the Republicans, and changes *nothing* with regards to this guy giving his testimony which is already in writing submitted...and in person will be the very next day.

Bill Shakespeare wrote a play about this ... MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING.
 
Yeah, and it seems you can't tell me what he "lied" about either....So all you are doing is repeating talking points with no substance to back up your claims....Checkmate.
Nice try. Anyone who cares about honesty knows that Jr tried to misrepresent the meeting before he released his email.

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Nice try. Anyone who cares about honesty knows that Jr tried to misrepresent the meeting before he released his email.

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Tell me HOW!!?!! Until you can do that, you are talking to the hand.
 
Really? So when is the last time this rule was used? Do you know?

You tell me if it matters to you. I do not care, not even a little bit. I know it's common for testimony to be put off for a day or two or a week or a month, and I have no idea why anyone would care about a 24 hour delay for testimony that HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN AND THAT IS AVAILABLE WITH 10 SECONDS ON THE GOOGLE MACHINE. I've linked to his written testimony and the hearing. Analyses are a Google search away as well.

You're desperate to blame Democrats for something. Give this one up - it's pathetic. A Hail Mary that fell 40 yards short of the receiver.
 
Nice try. Anyone who cares about honesty knows that Jr tried to misrepresent the meeting before he released his email.

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They knew these meeting were inappropriate and that's why they've lied about their existence until the press has uncovered them.

It's classic Trump tactics. Deny something unequivocally, lie as long as you can about it, then when the truth is uncovered take refuge in nothing illegal being proven, and pretend you never initially lied.
 
It is clear that this steaming pile was not only commissioned by the Hillary campaign, but compiled by a group alligned with the democrat party using a British smear merchant, using Russian sourcing...

Right

"But, Browder offered up an even more interesting tidbit of information, a tidbit that has been completely ignored by the mainstream media, that served to undermine the left's entire 'Russian collusion' narrative when he confirmed that Fusion GPS, the now infamous firm behind the 'Trump Dossier', was actually being paid by....wait for it....the Russians."

Hermitage Capital Founder Testifies That Fusion GPS (Trump Dossier Creator) Worked For Russian Government | Zero Hedge

Right again.

I would say that is due to the "media" largely being democrat operatives as of late rather than the journalists they are supposed to be....
Of course ... that's no accident.



Change their approach? To what? Hell, there are Republican's working toward democrat goals of undermining Trump to serve their own ends, (McCain).....What the heck are Republican' supposed to change in their approach to? Should we have to ask permission from Democrats to govern? Really?
Change their approach if it's in their best electoral interests. Media exposure of Dem pre and post election corruption might help with their timidity. I don't think most of the Republicans have resigned themselves to becoming Democrat-light. Some certainly have.
 
Yeah, we idiots know the IC has been investigating this stuff for well over a year later, and of course it's obvious that all those guys in CIA, FBI, NSA etc. are just a bunch of GD lying liberals who have maintained a charade all this time for nothing. And Mueller, who has no history of being a partisan, took this job and is gearing up with a bunch of high profile, very successful people who are also just GD lying liberals out to get Trump based on nothing. And if this all isn't obvious to you, if you think that maybe the professionals in the IC aren't all a bunch of partisan hacks, that Mueller isn't a partisan hack, that there's a reason for the year long investigation, and believe that guys with solid reputations already established have no reason to join Mueller unless there is something there, then you're just a gullible idiot.

Right, great balanced analysis.

You sound upset.
Is it because no one has found anything in that year ... other than Russian ties to the Democrat party, I mean.
Isn't that supremely ironic?
It wasn't supposed to go that way.
Very cool.
Aren't you anxious to see where that goes?
 
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