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Rush Limbaugh attacked by Caller

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OK guys, my first thread =) Im not sure if im in the right place but it looked like it could fit under this subject.. but to the point

Republican Caller Tells Limbaugh He's a "Brainwashed Nazi"

A caller calls in and call RUSH a BRAINWASHED NAZI... then RUSH retaliates calling him brainwashed - like he wasnt a good enough republican. This man is my Hero of the Day!
 
This caller was not a "republican", and rush, in this case was right.
 
Looks like a Seminar Caller, which the fact media matters is proliferating this out and about to all the usual suspects just furthers my thoughts of that.
 
Rush claims to be a Republican, so do I.

We differ greatly on our values and concerns.

Who is the most Republican?
 
vauge said:
Rush claims to be a Republican, so do I.

We differ greatly on our values and concerns.

Who is the most Republican?
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My meaning, was what zyph said. This guy came off as a seminar caller. I disagree with Rush on a lot of things as well.

Though I am not a Republican. I am a conservative
 
I think Rush was commenting on this guys credentials as a conservative not because he thought he was a less of a conservative as Rush and more that he doesn't believe the guy is telling the truth when he says he voted for McCain and is a republican.
 
I'm not sold. Listen again to the progression of the call. He is clearly pissed that be believes Rush screwed the Republicans.

Our party is splitting right before your eyes.
 
I think there's less of a split in the party then you believe Vauge.

And this guy has the hallmarks of a Seminar Caller. Start right in with trying to claim conservative credentials, then immedietely rip into Rush. The Brainwashed Nazi line was idiotic and typical of what you'd hear on your leftist of left wing blogs, not many right wing things. The one exception would be on the far out Libertarian boards, which is generally home to either One Issue libertarians that have as many liberal views as conservative views or to your extreme libertarians who are verging on anarchists.

I rarely, rarely hear conservatives, even libertarians, that attempt to catagorize Rush as a "nazi" save for in those groups. And frankly, the later group is just as guilty as Rush is in trying to say who "real" conservatives are.

There's issues within the Republican Party and conservative movement right now. However I don't see a split occuring as much as a bit of soul searching and attempts to pin down the actual identity which is causing some friction in the "big tent" party.
 
vauge said:
I'm not sold. Listen again to the progression of the call. He is clearly pissed that be believes Rush screwed the Republicans.

Our party is splitting right before your eyes.
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I dunno, "I am more to the right than to the left" and his repetition of "levin, hannity" "toture" etc... it reeks of "seminar caller"

"I am a republican but (insert attacks on all talk radio, etc)"


either way, I think the caller was wrong. McCain was a move to the left, that is why the republicans lost.



If the only tangible difference between two people is one has charisma, who is going to win?
 

welcome, and be careful saying anything bad about Rush, there are posters here that stroke out when that happens...:lol:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
If the only tangible difference between two people is one has charisma, who is going to win?
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I think there's less of a split in the party then you believe Vauge.
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I respectfully disagree.
Go to a local Republican group this month and report back.
Join your state GOP mailing lists and let me know your thoughts after only a few days.

You will be amazed at the inconsistency...

Gingrich: GOP-ers may form third party - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

Wake up.
 
Oh I agree, there's some major issues going on.

I don't think the "breaking" of it is as dire as Gingrich makes up.

2012 is essentially almost 4 years from this point in terms of what he's talking about. You're not going to finish soul searching after 8 years of the current status quo in a 6 month time period.

I think there's going to be some major shake ups in the Republican party, but I don't think its splitting apart. IF it splits apart then I think the idea of Conservatism on a national stage is dead for at least two decades. I put the blame almost as much on Libertarians and Ron Paul types as I do on "Neocons" and "Paleocons". To many groups within conservatism are getting to a point where they're saying "MY version of Conservatism, or more importantly the pillars I care about, are the only TRUE definition of Conservatism and I refuse to accept grouping up or compromising with others in the movement that adhere to a different pillar more strongly."

COULD it break apart? Perhaps, but I just don't think its as dire as some like Gingrich are trying to make it out to be. I think the next year to two years are going to be a lot of soul searching. I think 2010 will actually be the great test to see where this party stands and the direction it will be going.

What needs to happen is an intelligent leader step up that realizes that complete and utter rejection of the social wing of the party is not what the party needs, nor is it really adhering really to conservatism, but that at the same time can show the Social Wing that they can not be this giant amongst the other pillars of conservatism but an equal partner.
 
vauge said:
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I respectfully disagree.
Go to a local Republican group this month and report back.
Join your state GOP mailing lists and let me know your thoughts after only a few days.

You will be amazed at the inconsistency...



Wake up.
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The only thing that MOST politicians want from the public is campaign donations. Your ideas and opinons are NOT wanted. They already have highly skilled lobbiests telling them what to do.....Rush and all the other pundits just give us a false sense of involvement in government.
We are being taxed, but not represented. See, history repeats itself...
 

Your "pillars" concept is right on, and the more that happens, the more the GOP looks like the old Democrat party, a bunch of kooks clinging to their single issues, not able to get together for the good of the party.
I would like to thing that the good of the nation is a consideration as well, not just the good of the party.
As for the social wing, it seems that the majority of the public is in favor of it, but that needs to be done smarter....
 
It's an acorn gentlemen, the sky isn't falling. We just lost the WH, not because Obama was better, but because we didn't offer up a viable conservative candidate.

The base went wild when Palin was brought into the mix, unfortunately she wasn't quite ready for prime time, and McCain did her no favors. Her conservative values and honest approach is what stoked the base, she talked in plain, straight forward language.

The democrats will hang themselves, they've been given plenty of rope. We have several exciting up and comers in our party. Give them time to rise up, and lead the way.
 
Zyphlin said:
The one exception would be on the far out Libertarian boards, which is generally home to either One Issue libertarians that have as many liberal views as conservative views or to your extreme libertarians who are verging on anarchists.
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Those clownish free marketers aren't even legitimate libertarians or anarchists. As to the thread, Rush's screeners are generally quite effective at not letting the overly oppositional through, which is why only rather ineloquent leftists make it on to the program.
 
Just my 2 cents. I think hate mongering, fear mongering, infotainment, finger pointing of Rush is a real drag on the Republican party.
 
They're pretty good with siphoning out Seminar Callers, but they do get through. You usually get one a month or so I'd imagine when I was listening more regularly and they always follow the same general thing. They either love Rush, or they voted for Bush, or they've always been a Conservative, or they Voted for McCain......but.....and then almost nothing else during their call would lend you to believe a word of the thing they said to start said call.
 

You might be right, however it didn't take 2 decades for the roe v wade crowd to get into office. What you are seeing is history repeating itself. The strong Christian anti-abortion crowd got people elected based souly on their position of abortion. What happened is that every other issue didn't seem to matter. Regardless of ones thoughts on fiscal responsibility, the core ideology became abortion. This allowed many folks to go up the chain unhindered.

Now, with the internet and information age growing strong, more people are more concerned about more issues. We are educating ourselves on what exactly our party stands for. For 30 years we have fought off abortion and it has gotten us no where. Some of us realize that it is only part of the battle that needs to be won. Plus, we are tired of the misdirect. The statement at the top of this forum before one logs in is even more apparent. The party is split.

The Republican platform is very much limited government, very much anti big government, very much anti-abortion and very much anti-taxation. We've wanted to repeal federal reserve since the beginning! Removal of all taxes is on our national platform!!

Read it sometime, yah might be shocked wondering how the hell we went years ignoring it.

So do we continue down the path that Bush/McCain has traversed using the older anti-abortion crowd or do we move more toward our actual platform? Mark my words, a split is coming soon...
 
vauge said:
Rush claims to be a Republican, so do I.

We differ greatly on our values and concerns.

Who is the most Republican?
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Ron Paul is the most Republican - At least, he is the most Republican according to what the GOP used to stand for.
 

A Seminar Caller calling a talk show host names hardly sounds like news,its as newsworthy as celeb gossip.I don't think the liberal media would even give a **** if someone called a liberal talkshow host a name.
 
vauge said:
I'm not sold. Listen again to the progression of the call. He is clearly pissed that be believes Rush screwed the Republicans.

Our party is splitting right before your eyes.
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It is splitting, and for the better. McCain was a disaster, and hopefully the last "moderate" candidate we field for a very long long time. The GOP cannot win if the Base is not excited, and the base wants good solid conservative principles at the helm, not what McCain offered. Palin inspired the base, but McCain bothered the base.

And that's why he lost, that's why the GOP's fortunes have fallen, they went soft on what matters. The shedding of the moderates will do wonders for the GOP, going back to core principles will do wonders.

Charting a course to the "moderate middle" will leave the GOP in the minority for years.
 
vauge said:
Our party is splitting right before your eyes.
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If only it would. Discard the fundamentalist planks in the party platform and you gain more from the middle than you lose on the right. What believeable threat do the bible beaters have ? That they are gonna vote democrat ?? Stop Voting ?? Split off and form the All Jesus Party and Dominate Tulsa Politics ?? The Demographics have reached the tipping point, time for the RNC to tell the Christian Coalition to sit down and shut up. No More Litmus Test veto powers for this 25%-33% of the party.

Christian Votes have no where to run, so stop alienating others by pandering to them.
 
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IIRC, it has been awhile, someone on this forum suggested to me that Rush doesn't screen his calls....it was funny to me then that anyone could be that naiive about Rush.
 
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