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Results of Obama's India Trip

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BBC News - US President Barack Obama announces $10bn India deals

In India, Obama pushes U.S. jobs - CNN.com

Results in whats been called a 10 Billion dollar trade deal which includes new deals between major Indian and American corporations. The list from the BBC goes as follows:

 
* Harley-Davidson plans a new plant in India to assemble American-made motorcycle kits.
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The One spent $2 billion to go to India, just to outsource some jobs?
 
apdst said:
The One spent $2 billion to go to India, just to outsource some jobs?
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No

The US will manufacture all of the parts, put the parts in a big box, send the box to India where final assembly will occur, where the motorcycles will be sold in India not in the US, net gain to the US
 
Did no one hear that Obama has always wanted to attended the Indian Festival of Light, and low and behold that is going on now.
 
spud_meister said:
Are the jobs going from America to India, or are they being created in India?
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Well, I think you could legitimately say that the motorcycle assembly jobs is outsourcing. If they did not assemble them in India, they'd be assembled here in the US.

In any case, NONE of this is a direct result of Obama's trip. The trip is simply being used to announce the deal. The trip, in and of itself, did not cause ANY of this to happen.
 
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Whovian said:
Well, I think you could legitimately say that the motorcycle assembly jobs is outsourcing. If they did not assemble them in India, they'd be assembled here in the US.
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As Lord Tammerlain said, these bikes will be sold in India, so there is no transfer of jobs from America to India, just the creation of jobs in India.
 
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spud_meister said:
As Lorf Tammerlain said, these bikes will be sold in India, so there is no transfer of jobs from America to India, just the creation of jobs in India.
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Sure there is a transfer... the assembly jobs.

If the motorcycles are to be sold here, they need to be assembled... if they are to be sold in India, they STILL need to be assembled. Normally, they'd be assembled here. Instead, they are being assembled in India.
 

India most likely has a high tariff on assembled transportation products in order to encourage the manufacture or at least assembly of those goods in India, without being assembled in India the price of those motorcycles would be very high, most likely resulting in very few sales. By providing kits for assembly in India, more motorcyles will be sold, employeing more americans.

BMW, MB and most german automakers follow the same route when selling cars in quite a few countries.

FYI, the jobs are not transferred if they would not have existed in the first place
 
spud_meister said:
As Lord Tammerlain said, these bikes will be sold in India, so there is no transfer of jobs from America to India, just the creation of jobs in India.
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I don't care where the motorsickles are being sold, it still amounts to American jobs being shipped off to India.
 
apdst said:
I don't care where the motorsickles are being sold, it still amounts to American jobs being shipped off to India.
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Regardless of this.

Would you in the interests of fairness and "objectivity" you accused me of not having earlier. Recant your false statements regarding the costs of obamas trip?

Or do you wish to continue propagating this falsity?

Just wondering. Or was this the part that you restored honor?
 
apdst said:
I don't care where the motorsickles are being sold, it still amounts to American jobs being shipped off to India.
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So, if something that would not sell, does sell, and the parts to make them are made in America, but they are assembled in India, so that both countries benefit, this somehow is not making jobs. Thank you for clearing this up.
 

My statements, as to the cost of Obama's trip, aren't false.
 
apdst said:
I don't care where the motorsickles are being sold, it still amounts to American jobs being shipped off to India.
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No, it's Indian jobs being created in India, there will be no jobs lost in America.
 
apdst said:
My statements, as to the cost of Obama's trip, aren't false.
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One unconfirmed source from a foreign newspaper?

Care to prove it sir?

Again was this the part where "honor is restored"?
 
spud_meister said:
No, it's Indian jobs being created in India, there will be no jobs lost in America.
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Where do you get the idea that these bikes are going to be sold, strictly in India? 'Cause Lord Tammerlain says so?

How many average Indians can afford a $20,000 Harley? Let's get real, for a minute.
 
Jetboogieman said:
One unconfirmed source from a foreign newspaper?

Care to prove it sir?

Again was this the part where "honor is restored"?
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Do you have any source, outside of Krewe Obama, that proves me wrong?

Might want to restore your own honor, which seriously wanting, by this time
 
apdst said:
Where do you get the idea that these bikes are going to be sold, strictly in India? 'Cause Lord Tammerlain says so?

How many average Indians can afford a $20,000 Harley? Let's get real, for a minute.
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Harley-Davidson to build bikes in India - CNN

The "complete knock down" plant or CKD is expected to be up and running in the northern Indian state of Haryana in first half of 2011. Parts made in America will be put together for the Indian market in Haryana.
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See, they'll be sold in India


Obviously quite a large market for motorbikes.
 
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spud_meister said:
As Lord Tammerlain said, these bikes will be sold in India, so there is no transfer of jobs from America to India, just the creation of jobs in India.
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So our President has to take a trip over there so they can get some new jobs but the asshole cannot find a way to put Americans back to work.
 

there's a lot of supposition in those statements. Without something to back them up, that's pretty much all you have there... supposition.

If this was going to result in an increase in sales, why did Harley just recently sign contracts with it's union that will result on hundreds of layoffs? In fact, the Kansas City plant has laid off 400-500 people in the last few years. You think they'd want to gain back some of those jobs here in the states. Instead, they will be sending them to India.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/568/8380/Motorcycle-Article/Hardball-for-Harleys-Kansas-City-Workers.aspx
 
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Heavy Duty said:
So our President has to take a trip over there so they can get some new jobs but the asshole cannot find a way to put Americans back to work.
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Who do you think is building the bikes the Indians assemble?

And I suggest reading the CNN article in the OP

 
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