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Republicans: Obama must defend Christian values

Could there be a more uninformed, harsh, and just plain wrong statement than what you posted here??? I think not.

What part?
 
Because it's not an issue to me and I don't care whether he is or not or where he was born. That's the least of the country's problems.

So you're fine with Obama being considered a Muslim Kenyan?
 


So you read this article which included this statement:


And you think it is 'malarkey.'
 
Sure in the GOP version, where abortion is banned, being gay is a capital offense and women, Muslims, blacks, Latinos, and Jews are denied the vote.

Link please.
 

So those people who came here to escape religious persecution should have stayed at home. Groovy.
 
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If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

If you're an evangelical christian, everything looks like Obama.

And if you are Obama, you needs George Stephanopalous to remind you what your religion is:

 

I really think they were calling for Christian values to be INCLUDED. Maybe you should reread the OP.
 

And I believe that is the point of the article. Did you read it all the way through? If not, you should.
 
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I read someplace in the New Tea Party coloring book version of the US Constitution that presidents must defend Christian values as opposed to the Constitution itself.

Well, since he's not doing the one perhaps they want him to at least do the other. :mrgreen:
 
Really? You're going with that? :lamo

I guess you never heard of the Freudian slip.


Freudian slip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And if you think the Rev. Wright's church was 'Christian' I have some swamp land, er, real estate I'd like to sell you.
 
I guess you never heard of the Freudian slip.
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And you so desperately want to believe that. Tin hats for everyone! It would make your little fantasy come true. How sweet and tidy. Nothing like right wing extremist lunacy for entertainment.
 
I really think they were calling for Christian values to be INCLUDED. Maybe you should reread the OP.

Included in what exactly? We should not be defending any values except those of freedom and democracy or those that are deemed almost universally as atrocities, such as genocide or mass oppression.

So tell me what exactly are "Christian values" which are not being defended by Obama but which should be. Hint: "Family and values" are not Christian in their nature. In fact, values belong to everyone, since everyone has some. And pretty much all cultures respect families, even if they may not be families like those that some Christians want to see as families.

As for the persecution of Christians, I haven't seen any case where they weren't being defended against maltreatment just for being Christian. But that isn't standing up for Christian values, it is standing up for American values that hold that people should not be stoned, killed, or imprisoned simply because of their religious beliefs.
 
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Millions, many millions around the world, are Muslim too. You think numbers makes a religion righteous?

Of course not. Religions, like philosophies, differ from culture to country. This shouldn't need explaining.
 

If you read my posts you'd see I said Christians try to follow the Golden Rule and the examples taught by Jesus Christ. That doesn't mean we'll always be successful, but we try. I cannot debate issues which you claim I 'seem to believe'.
 
So you feel your philosophy would be the same as it is now if you were born in Afghanistan, North Korea, or India?


People can call themselves Christians but you'll know better by their actions, the 'quality of their character'. Often, everywhere, a persons claim to following a religion is used for political purposes, a trait not limited to American politicians.
 
That may well be and certainly ancient Greeks made great contributions to the world, but a religious doctrine wasn't among them. The poor, as has been mentioned, were treated rather shabbily and there was certainly no place in the afterlife for them.


You don't seem to understand how we gain 'reason'. Do you think we just stumbled across it without some trial and error along the way or have we in the democracies arrived at the zenith of mankind and we are the heighth of all man can possibly be? I doubt it. We have to be taught 'reason' and need free ideas and expression to arrive at some 'reason' as to what life and our attitudes toward our fellow man is all about. This has been debated since the aforementioned Greeks, and perhaps earlier.

We can see students in Universities today who feel that their education thus far has convinced them that they have achieved this 'reason' and therefore others should not have the freedom to speak their ideas, or share their values. Is this reason? No, of course no t,and yet this effort to deter others from their right to free speech has been supported by those who teach them. This would lead us to wonder what other nonsense they've been taught.

We are not near as advanced as we like to think we are and philosophies, Christianity among them, will teach us that we haven't traveled all that far.
 
republicans claim to want to bring democray to the other parts of the world but they hate to see it in USA

Obama would like other leaders to work together to solve their country's problems but forgets that back in DC.
 
So you're fine with Obama being considered a Muslim Kenyan?

Of course. People can consider whatever they want. He may have been a Muslim at one time, and Kenyans insist he was born in Kenya, but that is not important to me. What is important is that he's a foolish and dangerous President. Does it matter to you where he was born or what his religion is?
 
Certainly we can judge that some religions are preferable to others, just as we can with any philosophies.

Personally, sure, but not objectively in the case of religions.


Kenyans insist he was born in Kenya, but that is not important to me.

Having spent years in Kenya, I can assure you that's not true.
 
a fundamental lack of understanding the first amendment.

Well, I hope you can understand why you've confused some people (myself included) seeing as the part you quoted wasn't referring to the first amendment.
 
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