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Republicans have no one to blame but themselves

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Republicans bemoaning the fate of the Kurds have no one to blame but themselves


Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.)


Amen :applaud

All his life Trump has betrayed everything and everyone. Now Republicans are all surprised and infuriated? Go to Hell.
 
Our NATO allies (the Turkish) are now busy killing (some of) our ISIS fighting allies (the Kurds) inside the nation of Syria - both of them allegedly deserve our (US) support forever according to some. How anyone does not see this as insane is beyond me.
 
Turkey cannot kill the terrorists fast enough.
 
None of these hypocritical politicians give a rat's ass about the Kurds.

Some of them wanted war in the ME and wanted US involvement...especially in terms of arms and money...because that's what their donors want. Their donors see Trump's action and they see their money going bye-bye.

Some of them have spouted platitudes about ending US involvement in the US, but as we can see, when it comes down to actually ending things...suddenly doing that is a bad thing.

This is all about them seizing the chance to bad-mouth Trump.
 
Turkey, or Syria. They need to pick one and declare war.

What US national security interest is achieved by attacking a NATO ally, Turkey, who is currently invading Syria which you somehow think the US should be at war with?
 
At least POTUS is sparing American blood of our young men and women. Far more important

-VySky

When ISIS is resurgent again because of these shortsighted decisions, plenty of blood will be spilled right here at home.

And next time, no one will be interested in helping out. This is why “America first” is really just code for “America alone”.
 
What US national security interest is achieved by attacking a NATO ally, Turkey, who is currently invading Syria which you somehow think the US should be at war with?

The US should not have pulled out of Syria. It’s not that complicated.
 

I take it you support wars in Mid East.

Turkey is more than capable of handling ISIS.

-VySKy
 
What US national security interest is achieved by attacking a NATO ally, Turkey, who is currently invading Syria which you somehow think the US should be at war with?

That's a question for all the people who are ****ting themselves over Trump pulling 50 troops out of Syria.

My point: if Congress thinks it's such a bad idea, it should excercise it's constitutional authority to declare war
 
The US should not have pulled out of Syria. It’s not that complicated.

It seems that what should not be happening is for Turkey, a NATO ally, to be killing Kurds in Syria. It makes little sense for the US to defend the citizens of Syria from attack by a NATO ally.
 
It seems that what should not be happening is for Turkey, a NATO ally, to be killing Kurds in Syria. It makes little sense for the US to defend the citizens of Syria from attack by a NATO ally.

There are lots of things that should not happen. That's why we have a military.
 
That's a question for all the people who are ****ting themselves over Trump pulling 50 troops out of Syria.

My point: if Congress thinks it's such a bad idea, it should excercise it's constitutional authority to declare war

We still have troops in Germany, Saudi Arabia, S. Korea, and Japan. Should Congress have to declare war to keep them there? You think everyone will behave themselves if the US just pulls out of all those places? Add to that stopping aid to everyone from Egypt and Palestine to Pakistan. You think none of that would have any effects on US domestic security and prosperity?
 

Nope, but congress should have to declare war for those US forces to launch any attacks.
 

Did you say that when Obama pulled us out of Iraq? No, of course you didnt. What is our mission in Syria? Do you even know?
 
We still have troops in Germany, Saudi Arabia, S. Korea, and Japan. Should Congress have to declare war to keep them there? You think everyone will behave themselves if the US just pulls out of all those places?
Do you not realize that this was the exact argument used against pulling our troops from Iraq? And you disagreed with it then but support it now. What changed?
 
The US does not have a military to endlessly play world policeman.

The world right now is like a small village with no sheriff. That's why it's such a mess. There is no enforceable system of international law. Each nation pursues its own interests. Contracts, agreements, treaties, etc... have no meaning except what each side chooses to give it. So international law is not really law- it's more like "friendly suggestions and recommendations".

So in this completely anarchic environment, someone has to try to make sure things run in some orderly fashion, where there is some consideration for people to stick to agreements and treaties they have signed; for fairness, rule of law, and keeping everyone from getting too out of hand. Because the US has so far been the biggest guy on the block since WWII, that role has fallen on it to try to keep some semblance of order in the neighborhood. It's the friendly neighborhood tough guy. It has also been the biggest beneficiary of stability, because a world at peace is also a good marketplace for its business. It is not in the US's interest to see the world fall into endless tribal warfare and chaos.

If you don't think the US should be responsible for keeping some order and justice in the world, then the only other alternative would be something like a UN with a rigorous system of laws and serious law enforcement capability, to maintain law and order on the international arena. No third alternative is really viable.
 
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Republicans bemoaning the fate of the Kurds have no one to blame but themselves


Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.)



Amen :applaud

All his life Trump has betrayed everything and everyone. Now Republicans are all surprised and infuriated? Go to Hell.

Was Trump wrong to withdraw troops from Syria? Was Obama wrong to withdraw troops from Iraq?
Was Obama wrong to go to war with Libya? It may not be possible to determine the answers to these questions with anything like a simple 'yes' or 'no.'
 
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