Report: Florida textbook altered Rosa Parks story to remove references to race

[ouch]

This nation DOES focus too much on white and black color relationship. I am not sure where to stand on this, but 'race' is too much of a white and black narrative.

Appreciate your honesty. A question to ask is was 'race' too much a narrative during the 1950s?

 

[Doppelgangirl]

I wouldn't think a woman standing up for her rights needs to be referred to primarily by her race. Sure she was a black woman but was that her only attribute?

No, it wasn’t. She obviously had gumption.
Unfortunately, at that time - her race was the only thing ‘society’ paid attention to.

 

[ouch]

Black people need to realize they are not wanted in Florida.

Unless worthy of DJT and DeSantis that propels their political careers. imo

 

[KevinKohler]

I wouldn't think a woman standing up for her rights needs to be referred to primarily by her race. Sure she was a black woman but was that her only attribute?

Why did she need to stand up for her rights?

 

[ouch]

Soon they'll be back to calling slavery "the peculiar institution".

Then right after - a boring fad.

 

[j brown's body]

Depending on the age of the students, textbooks should approach the "truth" in a very gentle manner, lest some students become angry and take out their feelings in anti-social behavior.

White kids, right?

 

[j brown's body]

Its shocking to me that in this day and age anyone would approve of this censorship.

 

[dcsports]

*and did so in an attempt to comply with Florida's restrictions

lol. They made a bad decision in a draft. No one was involved but the publisher.

 

[dcsports]

Its shocking to me that in this day and age anyone would approve of this censorship.

It's not censorship.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

Pay wall, but from what little I saw, a picture of her, and facts about slavery. But mote importantly, the state didn't require that. It was some publishers hairbrained idea.

No, florida is not hiding black history. That is left wing myth narrative.

Which is a great rule. Teaching black history on NO WAY compels students to feel responsibity.

That someone thought that is on them. Do you have any real examples. ?

I found my FL State history book from the 4th grade- circa 1986-ish. Have considered starting a thread about it.
It is total whitewashed garbage.
You should see how they “handle” the Seminoles.

 

[Deuce]

Here is a suggestion for you, since people at the state level often run for national political office their actions at the state level regardless of their rhetoric normally leads to action at the federal level therefore pay attention to actions not rhetoric and don't vote for a national candidate that implements programs and policies you don't like. Other than that what happens in the state is irrelevant to you or another state

Naturally, you have never once expressed any opinion about an issue in a state you don't live in, or an issue that doesn't affect you directly.

 

[Galactic Spin]

lol. They made a bad decision in a draft. No one was involved but the publisher.

*and made that decision in an attempt to comply with Florida's restrictions

You keep spouting half truths, and I will keep correcting them.

And let's unpack how silly this statement is:

"No one was involved but the publisher"

I.E., the company that edits and submits the books. Um... who else edits and submits the books? And this is wrong anyway, as DeSantis and his white nationalist laws are very much involved in this. They are why this is happening.

 

[j brown's body]

It's not censorship.

This is what I mean. Banning the use of certain words suddenly isn't censorship anymore. Unbelievable.

"the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security."

C'mon, man. What is it then?

 

[j brown's body]

I found my FL State history book from the 4th grade- circa 1986-ish. Have considered starting a thread about it.
It is total whitewashed garbage.
You should see how they “handle” the Seminoles.

I'll bet.

 

[j brown's body]

*and made that decision in an attempt to comply with Florida's restrictions

You keep spouting half truths, and I will keep correcting them.

And let's unpack how silly this statement is:

"No one was involved but the publisher"

I.E., the company that edits and submits the books. Um... who else edits and submits the books? And this is wrong anyway, as DeSantis and his white nationalist laws are very much involved in this. They are why this is happening.

This is a good example of why the law is so terrible. Vague enough to allow for deniability, but stringent enough to send publishers back to the drawing board.

 

[tres borrachos]

Its shocking to me that in this day and age anyone would approve of this censorship.

You are a better person than I am. I am absolutely NOT shocked about it.

 

[dcsports]

*and made that decision in an attempt to comply with Florida's restrictions

You keep spouting half truths, and I will keep correcting them.

And let's unpack how silly this statement is:

"No one was involved but the publisher"

I.E., the company that edits and submits the books. Um... who else edits and submits the books? And this is wrong anyway, as DeSantis and his white nationalist laws are very much involved in this. They are why this is happening.

lol -- you keep saying things that aren't true. I corrected you.

This was a draft that they may or may not have submitted. You are giving conjecture. That's a draft- we don't even know if it was submitted.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Truth expressed inside history publications shouldn't compel students to feel responsibility, guilt or anguish no more than teachings of wars and politics in history.

MSN

Florida requires schools teach Black history. But a new law signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis prohibits instruction that would compel students to feel responsibility, guilt or anguish for what other members of their race did in the past, among other limits. Some publishers felt caught between the two guidelines and increasing political attention to school textbooks.


In the current lesson on Rosa Parks, segregation is clearly explained: “The law said African Americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down.”


In an updated version created for review by Florida’s textbook committee, race is not mentioned at all.

“She was told to move to a different seat,” the lesson said, without an explanation of segregation.

The Rosa Parks story is a story of race.

 

[ouch]

Because hyperpartisans on both sides refuse to moderate their views, the school system is being gutted of common knowledge.

We, as voters collectively, have been pushed to choose the lesser of two evils (thanks to controlling big money) but it's clear which evil political side guts knowledge the most.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

I'll bet.

It’s pretty shameful.
I was looking for it to get screenshots of the lunacy, but I have to be somewhere and can’t right now.
I will absolutely find it when I get back home tomorrow-

 

[Nickyjo]

Truth expressed inside history publications shouldn't compel students to feel responsibility, guilt or anguish no more than teachings of wars and politics in history.

MSN

Florida requires schools teach Black history. But a new law signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis prohibits instruction that would compel students to feel responsibility, guilt or anguish for what other members of their race did in the past, among other limits. Some publishers felt caught between the two guidelines and increasing political attention to school textbooks.
In the current lesson on Rosa Parks, segregation is clearly explained: “The law said African Americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down.”
In an updated version created for review by Florida’s textbook committee, race is not mentioned at all.
“She was told to move to a different seat,” the lesson said, without an explanation of segregation.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

It's not censorship.

Sure it is. The publisher did not write that textbook chapter, an author did. And the publisher decided that the words the author wrote regarding Rosa Parks must not appear in that textbook, so they were removed. That is (pardon the pun) a textbook example of censorship.

 

[roguenuke]

I wouldn't think a woman standing up for her rights needs to be referred to primarily by her race. Sure she was a black woman but was that her only attribute?

The reason behind why she was asked, why she refused, and why the government could and did punish her for refusing are important to knowing about history, and that reason is her race, that she was black.

 

[j brown's body]

lol. They made a bad decision in a draft. No one was involved but the publisher.

Any thoughts on what made them even do that?

 

[dcsports]

Sure it is. The publisher did not write that textbook chapter, an author did. And the publisher decided that the words the author wrote regarding Rosa Parks must not appear in that textbook, so they were removed. That is (pardon the pun) a textbook example of censorship.

You are bending over backwards to try to fit 'censorship' to this example. The publisher created a draft of it's own textbook. It is not clear if that's even what they submitted. They stated that they are currently submitting the original version to districts.