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Racists & Misogynists Out in Force Because....Ghostbusters?

Have you seen the movie?

From the reviews I have seen the black character is supposed to be educated but she plays it like a hood rat, which is the only character she can play.

She does the same thing on SNL every week.

All thoee women arecone trick ponies. Their comedic charm wore out yearscago.
 
Kinda like SNL.

Haven't watched much since Phil Hartman died. None of them are that funny while on the show really. Sandler. Tina Fey. The blond curly haired guy who's name escapes me from Talledega Nights. None funny on SNL.when they got to movies they found their step.in fact ... Sandler was annoyingly not funnynon SNL.
 
Its official. Your taste in movies sucks.

I just watched a dumb one the other day that was pretty good. I can't remember what it was though...I saw it after re-watching Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, which I haven't seen since 1975. What the hell was that flick? oh yeah---Death Race 2000. :lol:
 
I just watched a dumb one the other day that was pretty good. I can't remember what it was though...I saw it after re-watching Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, which I haven't seen since 1975. What the hell was that flick? oh yeah---Death Race 2000. :lol:

Never bothered to watch that one...lookex idiotic. Most movies are pretty bad , in fact.

Cant stand those Mechanic or Transporter stupis Jason Stratham movies either. Just had to point that out.
 
Never bothered to watch that one...lookex idiotic. Most movies are pretty bad , in fact.

Cant stand those Mechanic or Transporter stupis Jason Stratham movies either. Just had to point that out.

Oh yeah. If I wasn't at work, I would not have bothered with them. But, I was trapped here...so, what the hell. I thought the chick was cute at least.

I saw a good suspense flick a few weeks ago that seemed to stick in my memory, the Visitant. Kind of a silly paranormal film but not bad, as those things go.
 
Oh yeah. If I wasn't at work, I would not have bothered with them. But, I was trapped here...so, what the hell. I thought the chick was cute at least.

I saw a good suspense flick a few weeks ago that seemed to stick in my memory, the Visitant. Kind of a silly paranormal film but not bad, as those things go.

Watched a little movie called Chef last night. Great movie...
 
Watched a little movie called Chef last night. Great movie...

I just checked out the trailer. That does look good. I think my wife will like it too. We might watch it tonight.
 
All thoee women arecone trick ponies. Their comedic charm wore out yearscago.

They had comedic charm? SNL has sucked big time for decades.
 
I just watched a dumb one the other day that was pretty good. I can't remember what it was though...I saw it after re-watching Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, which I haven't seen since 1975. What the hell was that flick? oh yeah---Death Race 2000. :lol:

The original Roger Corman movie is a classic, unlike the remake they made that was just complete crap.
 
The original Roger Corman movie is a classic, unlike the remake they made that was just complete crap.

Never saw either.

Still does not excuse calling the stars N-words and bitches.
 
They had comedic charm? SNL has sucked big time for decades.

I almost put comedic charm in quotes... and i agree. SNL has sucked since Hartman/Carvy
 
I just checked out the trailer. That does look good. I think my wife will like it too. We might watch it tonight.

Worth it. If you like cooking those scenes will leave you hungry.

Favreau is awesome...
 
I cant believe they haven't been cancelled yet.

Who watches it? IMO it must be trendy wannabes straight outa frat houses hoping to be cool at the bar scene.
 
i am confused by that too...

Seriously. Someone says they just watched the movie and mere moments later, says they've never watched the movie.

Facepalm-Meme-04.webp
 
I don't want to say that Paul Feig made a sexist movie because I can't read minds and I don't know his motivations, but he is clearly part of the new Hollywood, which doesn't make good movies with good actors and good stories, they make politically-motivated films designed to cater to the regressive left. You don't go looking for the best person to fill a role regardless of skin color or gender or sexual orientation, you have to check off all of the "diversity" boxes so people don't get mad at you. People on the left don't go to see movies for entertainment anymore, they go as a political statement. That's what Feig and Sony have turned Ghostbusters into because they sure didn't make a good movie.

The pitch was to use the original actors, then Harold Remis died, then Weaver agreed to do it but only if her SON in the 2nd movie was one of the replacements, then she decommited. At this point, they could not have gotten studio support without some gimmick that will grab attention. Those are the facts, but i find it amusing and *regressive* that you have no similar rage against the original ghostbusters for intentionally excluding female, gay, asian, or hispanic leads

Your conjecture is just biased ranting. There have been ZERO gay, hispanic, or asian characters in the top 200 grossing sci fi and action movies. In fact, any gay theme will almost always get an R rating. Where's your rage about that? Clearly your contempt for "liberal" hollywood is just wildly inaccurate. The truth is that studios go for profit, that's it. As the hacked sony emails proved, they will defer to racist viewers in asia every time over giving a talented black actor like denzel washington a leading role.

The only speck of truth in your accusation is the "token black" character, which has been around since the 1st ghosbusters or longer, but where you're dead wrong is assuming this doesn't annoy most liberals too. It's so forced and distracting, and most of those characters are worthless - like winston zeddmore

And btw, the last thing hollywood would do with ghostbusters 2016 even with your desired all white all male all hetero cast is make a "good movie with good actors and good stories." They just don't do that any more, and this is why they could not get bill murray on board
 
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The pitch was to use the original actors, then Harold Remis died, then Weaver agreed to do it but only if her SON in the 2nd movie was one of the replacements, then she decommited. At this point, they could not have gotten studio support without some gimmick that will grab attention. Those are the facts, but i find it amusing and *regressive* that you have no similar rage against the original ghostbusters for intentionally excluding female, gay, asian, or hispanic leads

Your conjecture is just biased ranting. There have been ZERO gay, hispanic, or asian characters in the top 200 grossing sci fi and action movies. In fact, any gay theme will almost always get an R rating. Where's your rage about that? Clearly your contempt for "liberal" hollywood is just wildly inaccurate. The truth is that studios go for profit, that's it. As the hacked sony emails proved, they will defer to racist viewers in asia every time over giving a talented black actor like denzel washington a leading role.

The only speck of truth in your accusation is the "token black" character, which has been around since the 1st ghosbusters or longer, but where you're dead wrong is assuming this doesn't annoy most liberals too. It's so forced and distracting, and most of those characters are worthless - like winston zeddmore

And btw, the last thing hollywood would do with ghostbusters 2016 even with your desired all white all male all hetero cast is make a "good movie with good actors and good stories." They just don't do that any more, and this is why they could not get bill murray on board

Who cares? Casting people based on their race or gender and not on their acting ability is idiotic. It doesn't matter if every single movie out there has all black or all white or all male or all female actors, so long as those are the best people for the job, picked for their acting ability. Artificial diversity for the sake of artificial diversity is utterly stupid. But that is exactly why Paul Feig made this movie. Only a total regressive a-hole cares more about the diversity of the cast than the quality of the actors.
 
The pitch was to use the original actors, then Harold Remis died, then Weaver agreed to do it but only if her SON in the 2nd movie was one of the replacements, then she decommited. At this point, they could not have gotten studio support without some gimmick that will grab attention. Those are the facts, but i find it amusing and *regressive* that you have no similar rage against the original ghostbusters for intentionally excluding female, gay, asian, or hispanic leads

Your conjecture is just biased ranting. There have been ZERO gay, hispanic, or asian characters in the top 200 grossing sci fi and action movies. In fact, any gay theme will almost always get an R rating. Where's your rage about that? Clearly your contempt for "liberal" hollywood is just wildly inaccurate. The truth is that studios go for profit, that's it. As the hacked sony emails proved, they will defer to racist viewers in asia every time over giving a talented black actor like denzel washington a leading role.

The only speck of truth in your accusation is the "token black" character, which has been around since the 1st ghosbusters or longer, but where you're dead wrong is assuming this doesn't annoy most liberals too. It's so forced and distracting, and most of those characters are worthless - like winston zeddmore

And btw, the last thing hollywood would do with ghostbusters 2016 even with your desired all white all male all hetero cast is make a "good movie with good actors and good stories." They just don't do that any more, and this is why they could not get bill murray on board

Winston was the "token" Black?
Heresy!
He was the every man that the audience could relate to.
With the rest being weird and socially awkward.

He helped make the film what is was.
 
While I agree the trailer didn't play to the movie's strengths very well, there is no way on earth that accounts for the wave of blatantly stated misogyny and racism this film has attracted. I've seen much worse trailers for much more anticipated films (which actually wound up being quite terrible) that didn't get anywhere near this amount of hate.

Calling a black actress a "savage" has nothing to do with how good or bad the trailer was. Whining that they're not hot enough has nothing to do with how good or bad the trailer was (and if I recall, the original male cast weren't exactly models themselves and no one ever complained about that). Nor does the bizarre complaint that having a female-led cast is somehow "sexist" (but of course the original male-led cast wasn't, nor would it have been if the reboot was male-led as well, somehow). Nor does the endless fedora-wearers complaining that women can't be funny.

And the hate hasn't stopped now that the movie is released and has generally had fairly good reviews.

I can't imagine the cast and crew's shock that they still got a reaction like this to merely having a female cast in the year 2016. Even I was a bit surprised, and I tend to take a jaundiced eye to humanity.

This shows how far we have to go as a society. Yeah, women are accepted... as long as they don't come anywhere near the things sexist men want to dominate. Just pathetic.
 
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While I agree the trailer didn't play to the movie's strengths very well, there is no way on earth that accounts for the wave of blatantly stated misogyny this film has attracted. I've seen much worse trailers for much more anticipated films (which actually wound up being quite terrible) that didn't get anywhere near this amount of hate.

Calling a black actress a "savage" has nothing to do with how good or bad the trailer was. Whining that they're not hot enough has nothing to do with how good or bad the trailer was. Nor does the bizarre complaint that having a female-led cast is somehow "sexist" (but of course the original male-led cast wasn't, nor would it have been if the reboot was male-led as well, somehow).

And the hate hasn't stopped now that the movie is released and has generally had fairly good reviews.

I can't imagine the cast and crew's shock that they still got a reaction like this to merely having a female cast in the year 2016. Even I was a bit surprised, and I tend to take a jaundiced eye to humanity.

This shows how far we have to go as a society. Yeah, women are accepted... as long as they don't come anywhere near the things sexist men want to dominate. Just pathetic.

You read too many news stories that parroted the Sony PR narrative.
Did you see the Sony hacked email release?
How Sony was deleting critical comments on youtube that weren't about the gender of the actors?
There was a helluva lot more to this than, "darn womenz."
 
You read too many news stories that parroted the Sony PR narrative.
Did you see the Sony hacked email release?
How Sony was deleting critical comments on youtube that weren't about the gender of the actors?
There was a helluva lot more to this than, "darn womenz."

Uh, no. I just read the sludge posted by individuals at or about these women, including what's linked in the OP.

Like I said, I'm not disagreeing the trailer was a kludge, nor that Sony is generally a POS. It's not like this is the first time Sony has pissed people off, including their own artists. And that has nothing to do with the ground-level misogyny and racism that people aimed at this film.

Both those things can be true simultaneously, you know.

Tell me what the hell calling Jones a "savage" has to do with the trailer, or Sony.
 
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Uh, no. I just read the sludge of crap posted by individuals at or about these women, including what's linked in the OP.

Like I said, I'm not disagreeing the trailer was a kludge, nor that Sony is generally a POS. It's not like this is the first time Sony has pissed people off, including their own artists. And that has nothing to do with the ground-level misogyny and racism that people aimed at this film.

Both those things can be true simultaneously, you know.

Tell me what the hell calling Jones a "savage" has to do with the trailer, or Sony.

I don't know, but you're making a critical mistake.
You're defining the entire group by it's worst actors.

Were their assholes who said horrible things about the movie because of gender/race, yep.
Was that the majority? I'd say no.

I've been following this since nearly day one and the majority of the people involved with the criticism, hated it because of all the other drama surrounding it's production.
Not to mention the meh quality of the film itself.

Paul Fieg and the actors of the movie didn't help either.
Going on tv and calling your fan base, basement dwelling neck beards, doesn't garner much sympathy.
 
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