Racist Paedophile ring [W:348 & 389]

gunner said:

I feel, the danger--is we still do not get the step change needed, for fear of being called 'it's racist' to tackle said communities.

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Andalublue said:

It depends on what you mean by 'targeting said communities', Paul. Target them with what? Target them by ascribing some kind of collective blame might well stray towards dangerous ground. But targeting suspects from that community, as one would suspects from any community, without pandering or applying over-sensitive methods would seem only correct. It might also be worth connecting with the community leaders, and at more of a street level with younger members of the Pakistani population to examine, address and educate on fairly fundamental issues of respect for women, intolerance of extreme sexual aggression and on the importance of integration and co-existence.

Scapegoating an entire ethnic community for the aberrant behaviour of a few criminals would seem to me to be counter-productive, and you have to be very careful to make the distinction between 'targeting', however you wish to do it, and 'scapegoating' very clear indeed.

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PoS said:

Sorry but your convoluted logic makes no sense. If a white Brit goes to Thailand and rapes young girls over there it doesnt make him a racist pedo but if a Pakistani Brit rapes white Brit girls then he is a racist because he aims to brutalize them because whites are inferior? Is that your logic?

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Gardener said:

Well, people can certainly see what you are up to in this thread

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/137961-britain-victims-political-correctness.html

Now, I realize that as a person who has been the #1 supporter of Sharia courts operating in Britain even after it has been pointed out how they discriminate against women that you have a wee bit of a problem seeing women as equal to men, and I realize you will stop at nothing by way of trying to obscure the fact it is your fellow Muslims who are degrading British girls like they are, but my most sincere hope is that a few more Brits out there will say "enough is enough" to your crap. You are used to bullying your way to get whatever you want but it is time for people to start saying "no". No to your sharia. No to your misogyny. No to your intimidation.

You weren't able to bully Lizzie when you called her out, so you resorted to caling out Pinkie who is no longer here to defend herself, so you obviously have problems with women. That is the most telling facet of these threads in that it really tells people what you are all about. You may couch your rhetotic in all sorts of weasely double talk to indicate yours is a soft Islamism rather than hard and you are working towards a gradual undermining of Britain instead of a violent one, but all you are doing is acting the role of the good cop to the the hard Islamists bad cop in this routine. It's pretty effing obvious what you are up to, though.

These rapes were commited by Muslims targeting vulnerable British girls, they were widespread, they represent attitudes that are endemic to much of Briton's Muslim population, they are the product of hatred of the values of the host community, and they have been enabled through the very sort of intimidation you practice regularly.

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Wiggen said:

Who says the Brit isn't a racist? If his purpose in going to Thailand is purely to rape young girls because he considers them racially inferior and therefore worthy of being raped, then he's a racist.

Try again.

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Wiggen said:

-- perhaps it was just a coincidence that all of the victims were white

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Wiggen said:

-- and the rapists were Pakistani Muslims.

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Wiggen said:

-- Maybe there were no Pakistani women available to be raped.

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Pakistani-heritage Women and Girls
11.14 One of the local Pakistani women's groups described how Pakistani-heritage girls
were targeted by taxi drivers and on occasion by older men lying in wait outside
school gates at dinner times and after school. They also cited cases in Rotherham
where Pakistani landlords had befriended Pakistani women and girls on their own for
purposes of sex, then passed on their name to other men who had then contacted
them for sex. The women and girls feared reporting such incidents to the Police
because it would affect their future marriage prospects.

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11.16 The Deputy Children's Commissioner’s report reached a similar conclusion to the
Muslim Women's Network research, stating 'one of these myths was that only white
girls are victims of sexual exploitation by Asian or Muslim males, as if these men only
abuse outside of their own community, driven by hatred and contempt for white
females. This belief flies in the face of evidence that shows that those who violate
children are most likely to target those who are closest to them and most easily
accessible.' The Home Affairs Select Committee quoted witnesses saying that cases
of Asian men grooming Asian girls did not come to light because victims 'are often
alienated and ostracised by their own families and by the whole community, if they go
public with allegations of abuse.'

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Manc Skipper said:

I'm afraid your attempt to inject some reality is falling on deaf ears, IC, they don't want to know.

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Manc Skipper said:

I'm afraid your attempt to inject some reality is falling on deaf ears, IC, they don't want to know.

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Infinite Chaos said:

29 effin pages of lies and contempt for truth and statistics.

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Andalublue said:

You can hardly say we haven't been here before.

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German guy said:

When I saw a report about it on tv, they said several approaches to invistigate after first clues were known were halted, because the authorities were afraid of being accused of "racism". If that's true, that finally one example when it's legitimate to complain about "political correctness running amok".

I'm not sure if the Asians responsible for these deeds are "racists", or if it would be more appropriate finding another term, but obviously ethnicity did play a role here. Absolutely despicable.

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Manc Skipper said:

I'm afraid your attempt to inject some reality is falling on deaf ears, IC, they don't want to know.

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Andalublue said:

You can hardly say we haven't been here before.

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Infinite Chaos said:

What is it that makes people look at crystal clear facts and reports and then blindly continue to assert a twisted version of truth which can only be defended by using the tactic of smear and attack and the inevitably predictable response of - "apologia," "white man's burden," "political correctness?"

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Andalublue said:

-- a cognitive dissonance --

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Grant said:

In fact there have been any on these boards, including me, who have spoken out against the treatment of women and girls by Muslim men. The most common response to this is 'not all Muslims are __________. Fill in the bank.

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Infinite Chaos said:

All you seem capable of is repeating old lies. I asked you a question about the CPS and no response (didn't think you would) as you knew the lie about a "rape jihad" and "trying desperately to make this a white problem" would not be backed up by the facts.

However, a few years ago when the chorus of lies that muslims were responsible for the majority of rapes / majority of child sexual abuse came out I challenged this. You got your butt kicked and have been sore ever since. Andy and Manc Skipper have posted links to the actual figures which is that white males in the UK are responsible for approximately 80 - 90% of sexual abuse of children. No rape jihad but that doesn't suit you - so instead, you deflect with lies and attack. We have a serious problem in some areas where Pakistani muslims - seemingly taxi-drivers mostly - are picking up vulnerable young girls and grooming them. Nobody has denied this - what is denied is that it's a rape jihad or that these guys are responsible for the majority of sexual abuse against children.

Now, I expect you to conveniently ignore this and continue to lie about me. You and "your posse" who remain too blinded to see that actual statistics mean more than fake links from hate websites will never understand the basic facts.

You're just not worth my getting myself threadbanned for anymore - you posted false facts and you have fooled some people but I will simply continue to expose your lies when you dare post them.

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Andalublue said:

You're right that major paedophile cases are not being ignored per se, although the Westminster ring seems to have conveniently disappeared, but what is ignored when discussing the other rings is the religion and ethnicity of perpetrators. When paedophile priests were being unearthed at a rate of knots a few years ago now, so many people falling over themselves to point out how this was an aberration from the Catholic faith. Here you'd get the distinct idea that the behaviour of the gang in Rotherham is an inevitable consequence of having Pakistani Moslems living amongst us. You must have been reading those claiming seriously that it's fairly mainstream Moslem belief that rape can be a form of jihad. WTF?

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Gardener said:

This isn't a group activity, though, as you seemed inordinately preoccupied with making it so, what with how you "destroyed" me with the help of your underlings, and always going on and on about my much imagined following and whatnot.

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Baltim said:

I did see that yes, and I disagreed with it earlier in this thread.

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Andalublue said:

Did you run this by Grant, mbig and Wiggen before posting?

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Gardener said:

I don't do that stupid group thing.

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Infinite Chaos said:

What is it that makes people look at crystal clear facts and reports and then blindly continue to assert a twisted version of truth which can only be defended by using the tactic of smear and attack and the inevitably predictable response of - "apologia," "white man's burden," "political correctness?"

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Gardener said:

There is a section of this forum dedicated to these sorts of playground antics. Did you not know of it?

This isn't a group activity, though, as you seemed inordinately preoccupied with making it so, what with how you "butt kicked" me with the help of your underlings, and always going on and on about my much imagined following and whatnot. Since you have chosen women, especially, to call out and try to bully, were you thinking here that I had some sort of harem and so this elicits some primal cultural imperative in you or something? It seems most odd.

As to your statistics, I already explained how to interpret them in that thread two years ago by using the sort of basic math that American children learn by the time they are ten years old. In that thread you tried to claim that statistics revealing that if only 1/3 of a group has been identified by ethnicity, and only 49% of the group thus identified were white, that somehow meant the majority was white. What a ludicrous conclusion considering the true figure could be as low as 1/6 white not even factoring in the relative populations involved or the very real tendency to gloss over the ethnicity because they are Muslim as has been revealed to be the modus operandi of the very people whose inactivity is responsible for enabling this epidemic of child rape to begin with. . Now, just because you can find other people who lack the math proficiency necessary to understand how to interpret numbers, this does not mean your fallacious interpretation is correct. It just means that they are as improficient in math as you are.

I'm thinking here that if the schools in your culture would teach a little more basic math and a lot less cultural supremacy, the whole world might be better off.

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Andalublue said:

No Gardener, sure you don't. :roll: There's that cognitive dissonance again, or maybe it's the air conditioner buzzing.

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