Well there's one POS bill that's finally dead. Thank god for small favors and I give one big middle finger to the Mormon "church".California's Supreme Court refused to revive Proposition8.
Learn more here: Proposition 8 Dies With a Whimper - Taegan Goddard's Wonk Wire
My guess is that we have heard the last of Proposition8.
Any thoughts?
"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
So basically you're celebrating that the supreme court of a state decided not to honor the electoral will of the people. Yay. :roll:
Does this mean you'll all celebrate the next time this happens when it's an issue you voted for? Somehow I doubt it. We'll hear a different story then accompanied by groaning and complaining about the loss of democracy in America.
You've forgotten that we're also a republic. No amount of majority can vote away the rights of a minority.
Would you be saying the same thing if this were a bill that prevented blacks from voting?
Judges don't legislate in a republic.
You've forgotten that we're also a republic. No amount of majority can vote away the rights of a minority.
Would you be saying the same thing if this were a bill that prevented african americans from voting or having guns? It would be the will of the people, right?
Sure it does. It strikes down laws that violate minority rights. If you were to make a law that african americans can't vote or have guns, they could strike that down just as easily.
Democracy doesn't mean the mob can do whatever the hell they want.
So basically you're celebrating that the supreme court of a state decided not to honor the electoral will of the people. Yay. :roll:
Does this mean you'll all celebrate the next time this happens when it's an issue you voted for? Somehow I doubt it. We'll hear a different story then accompanied by groaning and complaining about the loss of democracy in America.
So basically you're celebrating that the supreme court of a state decided not to honor the electoral will of the people. Yay. :roll:
Does this mean you'll all celebrate the next time this happens when it's an issue you voted for? Somehow I doubt it. We'll hear a different story then accompanied by groaning and complaining about the loss of democracy in America.
Any time a supreme court overturns a law it is "deciding not to honor the electoral will of the people". The people of the state of California are still bound by the US constitution, and prop 8 was found to be unconstitutional in the initial ruling, and the Supreme Court ruled that the proponents did not have standing to appeal. Gosh darn rule of law...
California's Supreme Court refused to revive Proposition8.
Learn more here: Proposition 8 Dies With a Whimper - Taegan Goddard's Wonk Wire
My guess is that we have heard the last of Proposition8.
Any thoughts?
"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
Two different supreme courts. AND a reminder that we are no longer ruled by the will of the people expressed in federal and state constitution but by a small group of black robed Ayatollahs. There is no right to marriage in the federal constitution, it's not even mentuioned once, the SCOTUS had no standing to rule here in the first place.
California's Supreme Court refused to revive Proposition8.
Learn more here: Proposition 8 Dies With a Whimper - Taegan Goddard's Wonk Wire
My guess is that we have heard the last of Proposition8.
Any thoughts?
"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
California's Supreme Court refused to revive Proposition8.
Learn more here: Proposition 8 Dies With a Whimper - Taegan Goddard's Wonk Wire
My guess is that we have heard the last of Proposition8.
Any thoughts?
"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll
Actually that's not true at all. The majority can indeed vote in a constitutional amendment defining those rights. The useless strawman of taking voting away from a certain racial class has long ago been dealt with.
The main reason I disagree is because I never have (and never will) view marriage as a right. People can say it all they want, but it is not a right. It is a privilege.
Also, that's exactly what democracy means. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. It's why Churchill stated that the biggest argument against it is a five minute conversation with your average voter.
When you allow judges to create policy, you're just eroding your freedoms away, piece by piece. You can whitewash it by saying that some things are "rights", but you're playing semantics with yourself while allowing the genie out of the bottle.
You clearly have not read any of the rulings, nor are you remotely familiar with the relevant law. You might bone up on those before continuing to say silly ****. Over the top hyperbole when things do not go your way is not going to present your arguments in a good light.
Right or privilege, it doesn't matter. It's something you (or the average man, considering you're a hopeless womanizer with no desire to marry) can readily enjoy while you deny it to a specific class.
There are limits to what the mob can demand. Do you disagree? Or is the will of the mob absolute?
And the Libertarians here apparently.People can't just do anything they damn well please. Only hedonists would disagree.
Sure it does. It strikes down laws that violate minority rights. If you were to make a law that african americans can't vote or have guns, they could strike that down just as easily.
Democracy doesn't mean the mob can do whatever the hell they want.
Two different supreme courts. AND a reminder that we are no longer ruled by the will of the people expressed in federal and state constitution but by a small group of black robed Ayatollahs. There is no right to marriage in the federal constitution, it's not even mentuioned once, the SCOTUS had no standing to rule here in the first place.
And the Libertarians here apparently.
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