President Trump was 100% Correct about the Reagan Airport Aircraft Crash - DEI KILLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Redress]

Furthermore

WBAL-TV SkyTeam 11 Capt. Roy Taylor explains why time in sky matters in flight​

Since American Eagle Flight 5342 and a U.S. Army UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter collided Wednesday night, killing all 67 passengers, 11 News has since learned that the helicopter pilot had >>>>>500 hours of flying experience<<<<<
Captain Taylor indicated that the army INCLUDES classroom and virtual hours in that total .
Captain Taylor stated that in order to acquire SITUATIONAL AWARENESS most employers require pilots to have between 1500 to 4000 >>>>>>LOGGED FLIGHT HOURS.<<<<<
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/heli...experience-hours-military-commercial/63635680

Sad

Did you know that every pilot that 1500 - 4000 hours at one time had 500 hours? In fact, to get to 1500 hours, you have to fly a lot with less than 1500 hours.

No, srsly dude, think before you post.

 

[upsideguy]

The failing NY TIMES sat on the story for over 3 months . Now they finally disclosed that On the night of January 29, Army Black Hawk pilot Capt. Rebecca Lobach was conducting an annual flight evaluation with her co-pilot Chief Warrant Officer 2 Andrew Loyd Eaves, who was serving as her flight instructor. The Biden Administration had a regulation requiring federal agencies use DEI over MERITS.

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Her instructor told her REPETEADLY NOT TO EXCEED the 200 feet Helicopter Limit feet , to remain to the LEFT of the air corridor. SHE FAILED OR REFUSED. 100% PILOT ERROR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DEI KILLS

How can one post have so much wrong with it?

1. Trump was talking out of his "A"... at the time he said this he knew nothing about the accident, so attributing to his fantasies about DEI was impulsive, idiotic and unpresidential, as most things that he says are... In fact, Trump was inferring that it was the ATC staff that were DEI hires, not one of the pilots.
2. The fact that the pilot was a woman is irrelevant, as it would be if she were black, Arab, bisexual or Swahili. Lots of exceptionally capable pilots of all backgrounds. You are implying that she is somehow less competent because she was a woman. How bigoted is that?
3. You have zero idea what DEI actually is. It is not at all what you imply. DEI is not a policy that says chooses one over merits.... That is not what its about. It is what Trump thinks as do most of his useful idiots that hang on his every word, but he doesn't understand what it is and it appears you do not either. (Not to mention that Trump himself does not hire based upon merit, but hires based upon being a 'yes man", but that is another discussion).
4. The NTSB report identified a number of problems in the accident. Typical with most plane accidents, there are multiple factors. In this case, the major factor was congested airspace.... running helicopters under landing aircraft within 1000 feet of the ground is completely idiotic. This was bound to happen. They will be adjusting the air routes.
5. As a pilot myself, I can tell you that 100' feet is within a margin of error of an assigned altitude. Never ideal, but that type of variance can happen for a variety of reasons, especially if you are flying with a traditional altimeter that is calibrated based upon barometric pressure at a nearby airport, which is updated hourly, but can materially change more frequently than that (see point #4 -- the problem was the air routes that allowed aircraft to fly this close in the first place)
6. The New York Times enjoyed a year over year revenue increase of 14.1% in 2024, and a 26.4% increase in Net Income. It is not "failing", but thriving. https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2025/03/The-New-York-Times-Company-2024-Annual-Report.pdf

As to the premise of this thread.... Trump was not right, he is just a bigot, a characteristic you seemingly endorse has you certainly are not calling him out but instead are lauding him for it, rather despicable if you ask me. But, I suppose we should thank you for putting your bigotry on the table so we all know where you are coming from. Realize it is ugly in any form.

 

[Ouroboros]

How can one post have so much wrong with it?

1. Trump was talking out of his "A"... at the time he said this he knew nothing about the accident, so attributing to his fantasies about DEI was impulsive, idiotic and unpresidential, as most things that he says are... In fact, Trump was inferring that it was the ATC staff that were DEI hires, not one of the pilots.
2. The fact that the pilot was a woman is irrelevant, as it would be if she were black, Arab, bisexual or Swahili. Lots of exceptionally capable pilots of all backgrounds. You are implying that she is somehow less competent because she was a woman. How bigoted is that?
3. You have zero idea what DEI actually is. It is not at all what you imply. DEI is not a policy that says chooses one over merits.... That is not what its about. It is what Trump thinks as do most of his useful idiots that hang on his every word, but he doesn't understand what it is and it appears you do not either. (Not to mention that Trump himself does not hire based upon merit, but hires based upon being a 'yes man", but that is another discussion).
4. The NTSB report identified a number of problems in the accident. Typical with most plane accidents, there are multiple factors. In this case, the major factor was congested airspace.... running helicopters under landing aircraft within 1000 feet of the ground is completely idiotic. This was bound to happen. They will be adjusting the air routes.
5. As a pilot myself, I can tell you that 100' feet is within a margin of error of an assigned altitude. Never ideal, but that type of variance can happen for a variety of reasons, especially if you are flying with a traditional altimeter that is calibrated based upon barometric pressure at a nearby airport, which is updated hourly, but can materially change more frequently than that (see point #4 -- the problem was the air routes that allowed aircraft to fly this close in the first place)
6. The New York Times enjoyed a year over year revenue increase of 14.1% in 2024, and a 26.4% increase in Net Income. It is not "failing", but thriving. https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2025/03/The-New-York-Times-Company-2024-Annual-Report.pdf

As to the premise of this thread.... Trump was not right, he is just a bigot, a characteristic you seemingly endorse has you certainly are not calling him out but instead are lauding him for it, rather despicable if you ask me. But, I suppose we should thank you for putting your bigotry on the table so we all know where you are coming from. Realize it is ugly in any form.

Re: the bolded-- so, LAFD's diversity chief Kristin Crowley never said the following to prioritize diversity over duty?--

“He got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire.”

 

[notquiteright]

The NYT is the only entity which admitted giving CPT Lobach's time to scrub her social mediA ACCOUNTS

You are very mistaken, dozens of websites have articles and none cite the NYT. I'll admit those rabid right 'noise' sources are sloppy at best, but not one mentions the NYT...
As far as her social media accounts go, it is standard practice to censor the personal effects, I suppose that includes social media in this day and age. Given the rabid right's attacks on those who don't fit the round hole they demand it is probably warranted. That being said the muck rackers have posted pictures and posts from the Cpt's account...

 

[stealthycat]

DEI is not a policy that says chooses one over merits.... That is not what its about.

that's exactly what it was

DEI is hiring people on their skin color and sexual choices or gender over males/whites/heterosexuals equally or most often more qualified

I think its pretty well known now that Lobach was lesbian. Was that why she was where she was? We don't know that - but Biden loved DEI and elevating people based on skin color/gender etc as did his administration

Its a logical / reasonable assumption. Its clearer now that she was in error as well, and she was qualified enough not to make those mistakes.

sometimes two things can be at once - that she was a DEI benefactor and just made mistakes that had nothing to do with the DEI part.

 

[ElChupacabra]

that's exactly what it was

DEI is hiring people on their skin color and sexual choices or gender over males/whites/heterosexuals equally or most often more qualified

I think its pretty well known now that Lobach was lesbian. Was that why she was where she was? We don't know that - but Biden loved DEI and elevating people based on skin color/gender etc as did his administration

Its a logical / reasonable assumption. Its clearer now that she was in error as well, and she was qualified enough not to make those mistakes.

sometimes two things can be at once - that she was a DEI benefactor and just made mistakes that had nothing to do with the DEI part.

The massive idiocy with these assumptions are always worth a real chuckle. So do you spend a fair amount of time questioning whether anyone who isn't a white male is in their job because of "merit" and not DEI?

 

[Contumacious]

How can one post have so much wrong with it?

1. Trump was talking out of his "A"... at the time he said this he knew nothing about the accident, so attributing to his fantasies about DEI was impulsive, idiotic and unpresidential, as most things that he says are... In fact, Trump was inferring that it was the ATC staff that were DEI hires, not one of the pilots.
2. The fact that the pilot was a woman is irrelevant, as it would be if she were black, Arab, bisexual or Swahili. Lots of exceptionally capable pilots of all backgrounds. You are implying that she is somehow less competent because she was a woman. How bigoted is that?
3. You have zero idea what DEI actually is. It is not at all what you imply. DEI is not a policy that says chooses one over merits.... That is not what its about. It is what Trump thinks as do most of his useful idiots that hang on his every word, but he doesn't understand what it is and it appears you do not either. (Not to mention that Trump himself does not hire based upon merit, but hires based upon being a 'yes man", but that is another discussion).
4. The NTSB report identified a number of problems in the accident. Typical with most plane accidents, there are multiple factors. In this case, the major factor was congested airspace.... running helicopters under landing aircraft within 1000 feet of the ground is completely idiotic. This was bound to happen. They will be adjusting the air routes.
5. As a pilot myself, I can tell you that 100' feet is within a margin of error of an assigned altitude. Never ideal, but that type of variance can happen for a variety of reasons, especially if you are flying with a traditional altimeter that is calibrated based upon barometric pressure at a nearby airport, which is updated hourly, but can materially change more frequently than that (see point #4 -- the problem was the air routes that allowed aircraft to fly this close in the first place)
6. The New York Times enjoyed a year over year revenue increase of 14.1% in 2024, and a 26.4% increase in Net Income. It is not "failing", but thriving. https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2025/03/The-New-York-Times-Company-2024-Annual-Report.pdf

As to the premise of this thread.... Trump was not right, he is just a bigot, a characteristic you seemingly endorse has you certainly are not calling him out but instead are lauding him for it, rather despicable if you ask me. But, I suppose we should thank you for putting your bigotry on the table so we all know where you are coming from. Realize it is ugly in any form.

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLCRAP

President Trump CORRECTLY stated :


"After the crash, President Donald Trump blamed the helicopter for >>>>flying at too high an altitude,<<<< saying: “You had a pilot problem from the standpoint of the helicopter. I mean, >>>>because it was visual, it was very clear night.”<<<<<

Friends say Army captain killed in midair collision was a 'brilliant and fearless' patriot

Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach was identified by the Army Saturday as one of three soldiers killed in the crash near Reagan National Airport just outside Washington, D.C.

apnews.com

 

[Bodecea]

Did you know that every pilot that 1500 - 4000 hours at one time had 500 hours? In fact, to get to 1500 hours, you have to fly a lot with less than 1500 hours.

No, srsly dude, think before you post.

Especially in helos....they don't tack on several hours in one flight like we do in aircraft like C-130s.

 

[Bodecea]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLCRAP

President Trump CORRECTLY stated :


"After the crash, President Donald Trump blamed the helicopter for >>>>flying at too high an altitude,<<<< saying: “You had a pilot problem from the standpoint of the helicopter. I mean, >>>>because it was visual, it was very clear night.”<<<<<

Friends say Army captain killed in midair collision was a 'brilliant and fearless' patriot

Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach was identified by the Army Saturday as one of three soldiers killed in the crash near Reagan National Airport just outside Washington, D.C.

apnews.com

The rapey felon NEVER says anything correctly.....

 

[Contumacious]

You are very mistaken, dozens of websites have articles and none cite the NYT. I'll admit those rabid right 'noise' sources are sloppy at best, but not one mentions the NYT...
As far as her social media accounts go, it is standard practice to censor the personal effects, I suppose that includes social media in this day and age. Given the rabid right's attacks on those who don't fit the round hole they demand it is probably warranted. That being said the muck rackers have posted pictures and posts from the Cpt's account...

News aggregator "Jimmy Dore" cites the NYT

DC Helicopter/Airliner Crash: Shocking Pilot Error Details Covered Up By Military!​

 

[Bodecea]

News aggregator "Jimmy Dore" cites the NYT

DC Helicopter/Airliner Crash: Shocking Pilot Error Details Covered Up By Military!​

Blame the women. Always blame the women.

 

[upsideguy]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLCRAP

President Trump CORRECTLY stated :


"After the crash, President Donald Trump blamed the helicopter for >>>>flying at too high an altitude,<<<< saying: “You had a pilot problem from the standpoint of the helicopter. I mean, >>>>because it was visual, it was very clear night.”<<<<<

Friends say Army captain killed in midair collision was a 'brilliant and fearless' patriot

Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach was identified by the Army Saturday as one of three soldiers killed in the crash near Reagan National Airport just outside Washington, D.C.

apnews.com

Interesting. I mentioned SIX (6) things wrong with your post. You were silent on five of them (thanks for the concession) and all over this nuance, which you also got wrong. I don't believe you read and comprehended the article particularly well, as Trump's DEI comments were specifically about the air traffic controllers... He made no such comment questioning the competency of the pilot based on his bigotry, that was reserved for the controllers.

"....Trump also criticized the Obama and Biden administrations − singling out former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg − for what he argued was lowering the standards for air-traffic controllers to consider diversity, equity and inclusion in hiring. The president didn't provide any evidence to back up his claims, and he also didn't say when the air traffic controllers involved in the crash were hired, nor did he specify their race or gender...." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-blames-army-helicopter-dc-crash/78051726007/

No, Trump spoke out of his 'A" as he always does, impulsive yet ignorant. Read the NTSB prelimimary findings. This is not crafted from ignorance, like Trump's and your comments, but an actual investigation. There were no questions of competence raised (which is different than error), but this was substantially attributable to a systematic issue involving the air routes around DCA. It had nothing to do with DEI, in reality, or even in the bigoted way in which you tried to frame it.

Trump, as usual, was wrong, as are you.

that's exactly what it was

DEI is hiring people on their skin color and sexual choices or gender over males/whites/heterosexuals equally or most often more qualified

I think its pretty well known now that Lobach was lesbian. Was that why she was where she was? We don't know that - but Biden loved DEI and elevating people based on skin color/gender etc as did his administration

Its a logical / reasonable assumption. Its clearer now that she was in error as well, and she was qualified enough not to make those mistakes.

sometimes two things can be at once - that she was a DEI benefactor and just made mistakes that had nothing to do with the DEI part.

No, that is not what DEI is.... that is what many people thought affirmative action was, but they would be wrong on that front as well. Sorry pal, but you comments above reek of bigotry....

Here, study up on DEI and get back to us when you are less ignorant on the subject...

What is DEI, what does it mean, and why are companies really getting rid of it?

DEI does not ensure certain groups have preferential treatment, but rather that none do.

www.advocate.com

DEI: What It Is & How to Champion It in the Workplace

If you want to champion diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) at your organization, here are four ways to do so.

online.hbs.edu

Re: the bolded-- so, LAFD's diversity chief Kristin Crowley never said the following to prioritize diversity over duty?--

“He got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire.”

What on earth are you talking about????? What does this have to do with the subject at hand?

 

[noonereal]

No, that is not what DEI is.... that is what many people thought affirmative action was, but they would be wrong on that front as well. Sorry pal, but you comments above reek of bigotry....

Then what is it?

 

[stealthycat]

The massive idiocy with these assumptions are always worth a real chuckle. So do you spend a fair amount of time questioning whether anyone who isn't a white male is in their job because of "merit" and not DEI?

when everything is fair and equal like it is now (thank you Trump)

people are hired based on their merits

if there is discrimination, that's illegal and file a lawsuit

DEI was discrimination - liberals loved it, but it WAS discrimination pure and simple

that's gone now - you don't get special treatment anymore, you're graded on who you are and what you've accomplished, fair and equal for all


its great, isn't it ?

 

[Redress]

News aggregator "Jimmy Dore" cites the NYT

DC Helicopter/Airliner Crash: Shocking Pilot Error Details Covered Up By Military!​

Is Jimmy Dore part of the investigation? Because if he is not, then his opinions are worthless. You are failing badly here, and not learning from your mistakes.

 

[ElChupacabra]

when everything is fair and equal like it is now (thank you Trump)

Except he's put women in positions of power. How do you know they're the best qualified and not preferential hires? Surely there's an equally qualified man out there, right?

people are hired based on their merits

What is Hegseth's "merit" in holding his position? How about Steven Witkoff, who prior to his current role had no working experience in diplomacy yet is now the special envoy to the Middle East.

if there is discrimination, that's illegal and file a lawsuit

DEI was discrimination - liberals loved it, but it WAS discrimination pure and simple

that's gone now - you don't get special treatment anymore, you're graded on who you are and what you've accomplished, fair and equal for all


its great, isn't it ?

Not really, because there are now all sorts of idiots claiming everyone who is not a white man is a DEI hire, as well as anyone not being a white man is at fault when there is an accident. The massive comedy here is you parrot this nonsense while ignoring the wide scale nepotism going on in the current administration, where unqualified people are in positions they have no experience in, which means they did not earn them by merit. I hope you can at least take the honest position and say that "merit" in this administration is directly linked to fealty, not experience and qualification.

 

[stealthycat]

Except he's put women in positions of power. How do you know they're the best qualified and not preferential hires? Surely there's an equally qualified man out there, right?

I've seen no lawsuits of discrimination have you ?

What is Hegseth's "merit" in holding his position? How about Steven Witkoff, who prior to his current role had no working experience in diplomacy yet is now the special envoy to the Middle East.

you're saying they're DEI hires ?

Not really, because there are now all sorts of idiots claiming everyone who is not a white man is a DEI hire, as well as anyone not being a white man is at fault when there is an accident.

not all , no but DEI ? it literally IS discrimination hiring...... it Biden saying no men will be considered and no white people for the Supreme Court opening

can you imagine if a SC judge opening came up and Trump said "no women and no blacks will be considered" ?

The massive comedy here is you parrot this nonsense while ignoring the wide scale nepotism going on in the current administration, where unqualified people are in positions they have no experience in, which means they did not earn them by merit. I hope you can at least take the honest position and say that "merit" in this administration is directly linked to fealty, not experience and qualification.

there is no widespread any more so now than before

"When I first became a public defender, I had no criminal defense experience. I walked in, and I told my boss, Charlie, I said, ‘Listen, you should hire me.’ He said, ‘Why?’ I said, ‘Because I'm Black.’ Charlie looked at me like I was crazy," Crockett said.

DEI, discrimination

 

[Lord of Planar]

not all , no but DEI ? it literally IS discrimination hiring...... it Biden saying no men will be considered and no white people for the Supreme Court opening

can you imagine if a SC judge opening came up and Trump said "no women and no blacks will be considered" ?


DEI, discrimination

What I bolded is what they do not understand. They think it is OK to be racists against whites. How can they de so damn stupid?

 

[ElChupacabra]

I've seen no lawsuits of discrimination have you ?

That's relevant how? You are aware the college lawsuits were brought not by students, but by the SFFA organization which was essentially running cover for Edward Blum.

you're saying they're DEI hires ?

Not DEI hires, but nepotism hires. So using your meritocracy concept you apply to supposed DEI hires, do you think the ones the administration's appointed are the best possible candidates based on their expertise and past experience?

not all , no but DEI ? it literally IS discrimination hiring...... it Biden saying no men will be considered and no white people for the Supreme Court opening

can you imagine if a SC judge opening came up and Trump said "no women and no blacks will be considered" ?

I remember when Trump said the next SCOTUS appointment was going to be a woman. Is Coney Barrett a DEI hire? What I am curious to understand based on the logic you've presented thus far, how would you know a person who is not a white male isn't a DEI hire?

there is no widespread any more so now than before

"When I first became a public defender, I had no criminal defense experience. I walked in, and I told my boss, Charlie, I said, ‘Listen, you should hire me.’ He said, ‘Why?’ I said, ‘Because I'm Black.’ Charlie looked at me like I was crazy," Crockett said.

DEI, discrimination

Does this apply to white people who benefit from nepotism?

 

[What if...?]

Even a blind cat can trip over a dead rat from time to time.

 

[stealthycat]

What I bolded is what they do not understand. They think it is OK to be racists against whites. How can they de so damn stupid?

its not stupid


liberals/Democrats LIKE racism/bigotry/discrimination ..... if it works for them. that's why they fight so hard for it.

 

[stealthycat]

That's relevant how? You are aware the college lawsuits were brought not by students, but by the SFFA organization which was essentially running cover for Edward Blum.

oh, so you "think" its DEI ? with no proof ?

Not DEI hires, but nepotism hires. So using your meritocracy concept you apply to supposed DEI hires, do you think the ones the administration's appointed are the best possible candidates based on their expertise and past experience?

meh, that's the way nominations work, Biden did it, Obama, Bush's, Clinton .... do favors for donor's. I hate it, I do, but its consistent with the last 50 years at least

I remember when Trump said the next SCOTUS appointment was going to be a woman. Is Coney Barrett a DEI hire?

you're right - Trump discriminated against every man when he did that

What I am curious to understand based on the logic you've presented thus far, how would you know a person who is not a white male isn't a DEI hire?

it'd have to be looked at case by case wouldn't it ?

Does this apply to white people who benefit from nepotism?

as you said, nepotism isn't DEI

 

[ElChupacabra]

oh, so you "think" its DEI ? with no proof ?

Umm, what?

meh, that's the way nominations work, Biden did it, Obama, Bush's, Clinton .... do favors for donor's. I hate it, I do, but its consistent with the last 50 years at least

Ah, so it happens so it's fine?

you're right - Trump discriminated against every man when he did that

Think of all the better qualified people he discriminated against in most of his appointments, since most of them are not as qualified as many of their agency counterparts who have much more experience.

it'd have to be looked at case by case wouldn't it ?

Would it? It would just be easier to just make baseless accusations for anyone in a position who isn't a white male.

as you said, nepotism isn't DEI

It isn't, but in line with the logic you're falsely attributing to DEI and worse in the sense that nepotism often doesn't consider someone's experience and qualifications.

 

[Contumacious]

Is Jimmy Dore part of the investigation? Because if he is not, then his opinions are worthless. You are failing badly here, and not learning from your mistakes.

HUH?

He is a NEWS AGGREGATOR - so of course he can form an opinion based on the facts disclosed by Investigative Reporters like Alex Berenson.

 

[Econ4every1]

Her instructor told her REPETEADLY NOT TO EXCEED the 200 feet Helicopter Limit feet , to remain to the LEFT of the air corridor. SHE FAILED OR REFUSED. 100% PILOT ERROR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DEI KILLS

How does a pilot failing to follow instruction prove that DEI kills exactly?

Was she a bad pilot? Maybe, maybe not, but again, not sure how DEI is to blame here?

Because you see a woman you assume that standards were lowered so that she could become a pilot? Yes? Evidence please? And, let me preempt a few possible replies.....Programs that encourage women to apply to these positions or programs that help pay for women (or any other non-white males) to train in these areas is not evidence of unqualified people being promoted over more qualified people. If you think that, your bias has literally blinded you into that demonstrably false assumption.

Indecently, does nepotism kill? Isn't nepotism every bit as dangerous as you claim DEI is? Isn't promoting people based on their family affiliation exactly the same thing you claim? Why don't I ever hear people on the right complaining about nepotism? What about promoting people solely based on their political affiliation, wouldn't that mean that more qualified people outside the party in question could be more qualified but are being passed over?

I can't speak for everyone who understands DEI, but I would argue with anyone, right or left, who thinks that DEI is anything more than what you claim you want, premotion based on merit, ensuring that people have opportunities and ensuring that less qualified people aren't promoted to the top based on the color of their skin, their family or their political affiliation.