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Prediction - Democrats will win both Senate seats in the Georgia Run-off

EMNofSeattle said:
It’s both. The democrats are running what’s called a “high-low” or “horseshoe” coalition. They have super wealthy capitalists who buy off the support of Democratic politicians for their benefit, in return democratic lawmakers and institutions shill for them in rounding up the votes of the super poor and ethnic minorities
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I think this is probably more or less true, but what does this have to do with Marxism or Communism? You and others keep making these allegations that Democrats are "Socialists" in the Marxist sense of the word or Communists. There isn't anything the Democratic Party has pushed for or enacted that resembles the radical restructuring of our economic, political, and legal systems that Marxism and Communism demands.

Both political parties agree with the idea that the U.S. government, at the federal, state, and local level can interfere in the economy in various ways. Whether it's the form of taxation to construct roads and bridges, or outright government or government-sanctioned monopolies or quasi-monopolies such as the case in utilities (gas, water, power). The key differences between the two parties is not how our economic and political systems function, but it's rather who is being served by our institutions, and who receives government goods and services, and who is taxed and at what rate, and so on. Across the broad sweep of the various political and economic theories, the Democratic and Republican parties largely agree on the basics.

"Rounding up the votes of the super poor and ethnic minorities" isn't an example of Marxism or Communism.

Why is it "Socialism" to give poor black kids in the inner city free school lunches, but Capitalism to give farmers handouts?

www.reuters.com

Trump's payments to farmers hit all-time high ahead of election

U.S. President Donald Trump is assuring a bumper year for farmers as the Nov. 3 election approaches, with record government subsidies projected to make up more than a third of farm income in 2020.
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Another good example is the 2k handout proposed by Trump.

If Trump suggests such a thing that is right and proper, an example of Capitalism in action.

If Bernie Sanders suggests such a thing that is evil Socialism or Communism.

WTF? How does that make sense?

And why do Republicans -- in general -- think $600 is a fine example of the government working within the Capitalist framework, but $2,000 is an example of evil Socialists trying to eat the rich?

Fundamentally, there is no difference.

I think you and others use these terms, not as how they are intended, but as weapons to attack your perceived political opponents. You're okay with the government working on your behalf and for your interests, but it's not okay when the government helps people you think do not deserve help. Or, I think more accurately, you want the status quo perpetuated. And any alteration of economic or political forces that change the status quo get placed in the Socialist or Communist bucket, whether such categorization is warranted or not.

then there’s some additional fellow travelers like academia who are the source of quasi Marxist thought and educated technocrats who staff the regime.
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Okay. Who? Who are these people? Can you name them? Which administrations did they serve under? Which "Marxist" policies did they implement? Of what consequence are these quasi-Marxists?
 
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Prediction - Democrats will win both Senate seats in the Georgia Run-off
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Prediction - Democrats will win both Senate seats in the Georgia Run-off
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And I was skeptical that the Dems could win both seat, you were right, it was a good day, that is until the traitors started rioting.
 
Winston said:
I would like to see where the Dems loyalties are at. I would bet my bottom dollar that if they take control of all 3 chambers we still get right wing legislation.
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What, exactly, is “right wing legislation”? Would that include Trump’s recommended $2K stimulus (gift?) of additional borrowed funds?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
What, exactly, is “right wing legislation”? Would that include Trump’s recommended $2K stimulus (gift?) of additional borrowed funds?
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If I were to choose something I think they would do I would say cutting SSC and Medicare is right wing legislation.
As for the payments I was just saying if Dems don’t deliver on that and I voted for them in GA for those payments they campaigned on, I would def view that as a failure.
Also Let’s not pretend the right supports that stimulus. Were it not for them we would have it already
 
99percenter said:
600 bucks a week for sitting your ass at home.
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Yep, that (extra FTE of $15/hour) was quite a bump on top of one’s state UI benefits - especially for those laid off from a $15/hour (or less) job.
 
Winston said:
If I were to choose something I think they would do I would say cutting SSC and Medicare is right wing legislation.
As for the payments I was just saying if Dems don’t deliver on that and I voted for them in GA for those payments they campaigned on, I would def view that as a failure.
Also Let’s not pretend the right supports that stimulus. Were it not for them we would have it already
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I seriously doubt that demorats (or republicants) would favor committing political suicide by cutting either SS or Medicare spending - especially since borrow and spend “budgeting” gets them re-elected at a rate of over 90%.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I seriously doubt that demorats (or republicants) would favor committing political suicide by cutting either SS or Medicare spending - especially since borrow and spend “budgeting” gets them re-elected at a rate of over 90%.
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that’s all we’ve heard from leadership of the Republicans party since they got their tax cuts. Granted they call it “reform”.
 
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