What Obama is doing would be something similar to the new General Manager of a professional baseball team coming in and building a new team. The team is full of new players and the entire coaching staff has been replaced.
That team sucks and doesn't make the playoffs. The General Manager meets with the press at the start of the next season and blames the previous management for the team sucking. That's insane.
The excuse works the first few months of the season but at a certain point just except the fact that what you're doing isn't working.
President Obama has been working with his own team since he was elected.
would that be the same Medicare program that most liberals whine that the GOP wants to destroy?
I know this is hard for mindless ideologues to grasp...but...well...here goes...
When you apply for a job you make the statement "I can do the job". You are hired with the expectation to then "do the job." Your employer doesnt tolerate "well...dangit...the job is HARD" or "that job is harder than I thought" or "well...Its not MY fault I cant do the job...the last guy you hired didnt do a good job either." See...those are what we call 'excuses' and I dont know of too many employers that give a **** about limp excuses. A good employer MIGHT just tell the whiny employee that keeps using excuses that they ought to spend more time fixing the problem than about whining about the other guy...especially since the other guy consistently maintained lower unemployment rates and ran up less debt in the same amount of time.
The president has failed. Congress has failed. If the people were smart they would toss every single one of them out by referendum and replace EVERYONE.
I realize it's hard to keep striaght everyone's separate opinions, but I don't believe any president is responsible for the economy. I don't believe government can control it at all. Whatever they do is largely to help limit the harm or help the recovery, but both largely have minimal effect.
there was little differnece between how liberals view this and conservatives
Hmmm... strange... and Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilarious! :lamo
You know what Boo... you're right.
You are.
The government cannot control it, but they can influence it greatly, and Socialism... the expansion of government has been disastrous, and the more they tried to control, the more they try to organize our lives for us... the worse it gets. They cannot do it. It fails everywhere. It is costly.
It's what Conservatives have been saying. Limited government is the best government. Let people live their lives. Let the states run the experiments. Let government take care of their Constitution duties of protecting the people and nation. Upholding law. Protecting our rights.
You iz funny cuz you iz comparing failures and proudly proclaiming that your failure iz less bad than the other failure. :lamo
Unemployment rates dont tell the picture, do they. Unemployment rates do not reflect the "actual" unemployment rates, do they? They dont reflect those that have been on unem ployment for so long they simply fall off the map and dont qualify, do they?
Dood...why do poeple like you CONSTANTLY jump in about the president and IGNORE the fact that in that very post you cited I blamed Bush AND both partys in congress?
And replace them with who? Libertarians?! ROFL!!
Obama has not "failed". We've put ourselves in a huge hole due to 30 years of Reagonomics, and we will not get out of this hole in one presidential term. Reagan failed us badly. Bush 1 failed us. Clinton absolutely failed us (most effective Corporate Republican president ever), but 'W' and Obama may not have failed us. History will tell us if 'W' was a good president of bad, but it is too soon to determine that, and it is certainly too soon to tell if Obama is doing a good job or bad job. 'W' made some big mistakes, some of the biggest in our history (Iraq), but he also prevented any terrorist attacks on our shores after 9/11, which he should be given huge kudos for. 'W' had a typical corporatist economic policy toward the recession (TARP) and in this way he and Obama are very much the same. In fact, aside from a few social issues and the ACA, it is hard to tell the difference between the two men in the actual policies that they have pushed forth.
they really can't in our system influence it greatly
the only difference between them is where they grow the government
Who do you think was throwing the things I mentioned? The Repubs in congress have done everything they can to thwart everything the president has attempted. Even those things they came up with in the first place, as soon as Obama suggested them.
No compromise has been considered, only blind unswerving capitulation to the rights agenda has been accepted. "Extend the tax cuts or the unemployed get it!"
I'm not thrilled with bald obstructionism, that's what I was referring to.
And this is OBama's fault how?
Actually, I am dealing with reality and the reality that Obama inherited when he took office.
It seems that Republicans are winning the messaging war, as usual. Unfortunately for the country, the Republicans look at the faultering economy with greedy eyes, and they have no intention of doing anything to help revive the economy until they win back the White House. They have been trying to sabotage any efforts to help the economy since Obama was elected, and proof of that is the number of bills that Republicans have backed or sponsored that would have gone towards helping the economy: zero. Their duplicity is transparent, as are their souls.
The Repubs in congress have done everything they can to thwart everything the president has attempted.
proof of that is the number of bills that Republicans have backed or sponsored that would have gone towards helping the economy: zero
Gotcha...so...you are other one of 'those guys'. Its always the republicans...its not the poor democrats fault they cant get anything done.
since the democrats are so incredibly inept that even when they own the house, senate and white house they cant so much as pass a simple operating budget...maybe YOu ought to considering replacing them with people that have a spine and some semblance of competence. Hey...find some replacement democrats since i know mindless ideologues vote for party at all cost... but for Gods sake...for the country's sake, for your great grandchildrens sake...STOP excusing the current crop of clowns. To be honest...you guys OUGHT to be embarrased. George Bush was such a dunce, yet he ran circles around the dems. The dems held majorities in all houses yet the republicans thwarted them. That means...your guys blow. hard.
I'm an absolute supporter of expanding away from a two party system, so we do have some common ground. You're one of those here I tend to agree with except for level of intensity, if that makes sense. On some things at least.
But majorities are irrelevant if the minority party is willing to abuse the rules (filibuster) to thwart the majority. Which IS what the.Repubs have done.
And I don't habe an absolute loyalty to any party, I have voted for Repubs on occasion if I believe they will do a better job.
I think "think tank" conservatism is DESTROYING the America I grew up in. Their propaganda designers have been mind raping this society for decades. There's some crackhead ideas on the left as well, but they lack the amorality and uniformity of "message" enjoyed by the "think tank" right.
They're trying to catch up though, and I find the whole thing disgusting. So much so that I probably WOULD vote for a viable libertarian-style candidate if he refrained from veering right socially. Huntsman is actually interesting to me.
And just to be clear, I oppose the agenda supported by portable wealth as opposed to the agenda of wealth that depends on American paychecks, for what should be obvious reasons. And if all the govts going to do is defend property rights, enforce contracts and provide for defense, then how does that differ from feudalism to the average person?
What Obama is doing would be something similar to the new General Manager of a professional baseball team coming in and building a new team. The team is full of new players and the entire coaching staff has been replaced.
That team sucks and doesn't make the playoffs. The General Manager meets with the press at the start of the next season and blames the previous management for the team sucking. That's insane.
The excuse works the first few months of the season but at a certain point just except the fact that what you're doing isn't working.
President Obama has been working with his own team since he was elected.
Your analogy fails since the reality Obama has to work with is NOT something new. It is the economy he inherited. It is not NEW.
And what he is doing is indeed working. The unemployment rate has reversed from its growth period.
Why would anyone truly believe that in a time where his administration has so fouled up the numbers in even counting the unemployed. the number of 9% is clearly a lie. Obama's policies, and legislation seems more to be constructed to damage the foundation of free enterprise in this nation, and thus drive people to depend more on government than it does about prosperity among the masses.
j-mac
It's who want government to fix it, conservatives and liberals alike, who government as being able to fix it who are to blame. Every president has spun it so, and too often take credit when fortune favors them. We let them. Ultmately, we're to blame.
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