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Politico: House GOP takes another cut at food stamp bill

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House GOP takes another cut at food stamp bill - David Rogers - POLITICO.com

House Republicans are proposing to double their food stamp savings to nearly $40 billion by rolling back waivers for able-bodied adults and targeting funds to states that are willing to impose greater work requirements on the parents of young children.

The prime mover is Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) who helped jettison the nutrition title from the House farm bill last month and is now trying to write his own version before the House goes to conference with the Senate.

Cantor has used a select working group of conservatives to help shape the package but shows signs now of reaching out to party moderates as well. And his goal is to have legislation in hand which the House can vote on in early September when it returns from the August recess.

The prime target appears to be able-bodied beneficiaries under 50 years old and without dependents — a population that has grown significantly since 2008 because of the bad economy and increased state waivers of a 20-hour-a-week work requirement.

By rolling back these waivers, large savings are possible, essentially by forcing millions off the rolls if they don’t find work after three months. Unless approached with some care, the impact could be severe in areas of chronically high-unemployment, such as the Rio Grande Valley, poor urban areas and Indian reservations, for example. And the final details of the bill have not been made public.

A second area of more modest but still controversial savings would come from using federal funds to pressure states to take a more aggressive welfare reform-like approach imposing work requirements on able-bodied parents with young children.

Currently Washington provides a 50 percent match for states that spend their own funds for employment and training programs for food stamp recipients. As proposed now, the bill would only provide this aid if the state is willing to operate welfare reform-like work activities for mothers with children over 1- years-old.

This is a significant expansion of the current food stamps work rules, which exempt mothers with children under 6.

The current federal match for such employment and training aid is expected to run near $230 million in 2014. New York and California would be most impacted by the provision since they are much more invested in such programs and receive the lion’s share of the federal match.
besides the obvious fact that some of the rules in this food stamp bill targets new york and California, how does cantor think that this bill's controversial cuts and provision will survive if the house goes into conference with the senate.

the senate and house variations of the farm bill are miles apart, not to mention that house separated the food stamp and farm subsidies were split into two separate bills, while the senate covers both issues in the same bill.
 

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House Republicans are proposing to double their food stamp savings to nearly $40 billion by rolling back waivers for able-bodied adults and targeting funds to states that are willing to impose greater work requirements on the parents of young children.
Lets see now, most people on food stamps are already working two jobs and still can't make ends meet which is why they rely on food stamps...and congress thinks they need to get another job? When will they have time to spend with and raise their kids?


Congress should be forced to spend a month in a poor single mother's shoes.
 

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House GOP takes another cut at food stamp bill - David Rogers - POLITICO.com



besides the obvious fact that some of the rules in
this food stamp bill targets new york and California
, how does cantor think that this bill's controversial cuts and provision will survive if the house goes into conference with the senate.

the senate and house variations of the farm bill are miles apart, not to mention that house separated the food stamp and farm subsidies were split into two separate bills, while the senate covers both issues in the same bill.
Unlike poor red states, New York and California pay more than their share in federal taxes than they get in return. If I were them, I'd say screw congress and only pay what the red states pay and use the extra money on their own states.
 

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Unlike poor red states, New York and California pay more than their share in federal taxes than they get in return. If I were them, I'd say screw congress and only pay what the red states pay and use the extra money on their own states.
Why not get rid of the entitlements altogether?
 

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besides the obvious fact that some of the rules in this food stamp bill targets new york and California, how does cantor think that this bill's controversial cuts and provision will survive if the house goes into conference with the senate.

the senate and house variations of the farm bill are miles apart, not to mention that house separated the food stamp and farm subsidies were split into two separate bills, while the senate covers both issues in the same bill.



I doubt that this will help the GOP win many elections.




"Republicans have been accused of abandoning the poor. It's the other way around. They don't vote for us." ~ Dan Quayle
 
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Unlike poor red states, New York and California pay more than their share in federal taxes than they get in return. If I were them, I'd say screw congress and only pay what the red states pay and use the extra money on their own states.
That would put them in rebellion against the federal government and invite military intervention. Please see: Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, et al.:peace
 

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That would put them in rebellion against the federal government and invite military intervention. Please see: Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, et al.:peace
The federal government is busy trying to force the red states to comply with federal law. Hows that working out?

Do you think the federal government wants to destroy their two biggest sources of revenue?
 

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The federal government is busy trying to force the red states to comply with federal law. Hows that working out?

Do you think the federal government wants to destroy their two biggest sources of revenue?
Let them impede the flow of their tax receipts and you will witness a vigorous affirmative response.:peace
 

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That would put them in rebellion against the federal government and invite military intervention.
Please see: Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, et al.:peace



Sometimes a state has to do what a state has to do.

I believe that Grant is resting in his tomb.
 

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Why, so we can watch people beg for food on every corner?
No, so we can get rid of the which States are paying for what meme. Maybe it's time for families to return to supporting each other...
 

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And the feds will do what they have to do. The threat of state resistance to federal power is ludicrous.:peace
considering much of the infustructure and military is not state owned but owed to the federal government, the states who try to leave the union would find themselves bankrupt and powerless.
 

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Let them impede the flow of their tax receipts and you will witness a vigorous affirmative response.:peace
In theory, yes. But since conservatives are trying to abolish the IRS and dont like paying taxes themselves whose going to care if blue states only pay what the red states pay?
 

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In theory, yes. But since conservatives are trying to abolish the IRS and dont like paying taxes themselves whose going to care if blue states only pay what the red states pay?
Those in the blue states that depend on government subsidies...
 

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Unlike poor red states, New York and California pay more than their share in federal taxes than they get in return. If I were them, I'd say screw congress and only pay what the red states pay and use the extra money on their own states.

really?, and becuase they pay more in taxes, they also get more representation.

CA in the house has about 53 representatives. NY 27

WY has 1 representative.
 
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No, so we can get rid of the which States are paying for what meme. Maybe it's time for families to return to supporting each other...
Maybe families already are and it's not enough.

When a single mom has to work two or three jobs and only brings in enough to pay the rent, utilities, child care, gas and still runs a deficit every month, then something is wrong with the system. What is the incentive to work if you make less at a job, than what it costs to put a child in daycare?
 

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Maybe families already are and it's not enough.

When a single mom has to work two or three jobs and only brings in enough to pay the rent, utilities, child care, gas and still runs a deficit every month, then something is wrong with the system. What is the incentive to work if you make less at a job, than what it costs to put a child in daycare?

Or there's something wrong with the mom.
 

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Maybe families already are and it's not enough.

When a single mom has to work two or three jobs and only brings in enough to pay the rent, utilities, child care, gas and still runs a deficit every month, then something is wrong with the system. What is the incentive to work if you make less at a job, than what it costs to put a child in daycare?
I would rather delve into the question of where the father might be, and why society is not concerned about it...
 
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