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May I please have an example of PC trampling on your liberties?Because it's idiotic to tippy-toe around people's silly sensibilities. People should have more important things to get excited about and if they don't, there's something wrong with them.
Besides that political correctness is nothing but thought engineering, that sometimes results in trampling on our liberties.
Wow, that's a lot of spin to justify your use of a non-PC term while complaining about a lack of "common courtesy" in others. What's the PC term for that? Consistency challenged?
No, it's not being politically correct because Asians aren't objects. It's just "correct".
Another point, I find it a bit annoying and even more damaging to society than actual political correctness that people are now referring to manners as political correctness seemingly as means to excuse themselves from the common courtesy of respecting people and being polite. I consider it much more damaging to go around saying things to purposely offend people than to use language that facilitates conversation.
It seems to me that most of the people who complain relentlessly about political correctness are just social retards who never learned the importance of language and don't want to take responsibility for the reactions they get from people.
Exactly. The people I was talking about in both my posts are the people who use impolite or PC terms and then complain about people's reactions to them. I use terms like "retard" knowing that some people might not like it. My post had nothing to do with complaining about a "lack of common courtesy".To my mind, and I think others, there is a difference between being PC and being polite. He also makes the valid point that if you choose to be impolite, you should be willing to accept the reaction you get.
Yes and no. I might add a "within reason" to the end of that. Many years ago I had a conversation with a friend of mine and he was talking about bringing up his daughters(1 and 3 years old at the time) and some of the complications he would run through his head. For example, he felt the golden rule was improperly worded. It should not be "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", since there is no guarantee that the other person wants to be treated the same way you do, and in fact they probably didn't in all aspects. The rule more properly should be "do unto others as they would have you do unto them". The problem though was to not just teach his daughters his version of the rule, but to teach them it in such a way they did not end up as sycophants or similar. There has to be a line drawn where there are reasonable expectations for how people should treat you, and unreasonable.
Offended is a reaction, but the question is not with the reaction, but with the initial action.
May I please have an example of PC trampling on your liberties?
But why does people "bitching" about a term they deem offensive matter so much? People have whined about things I say, but it has little to no impact on my life and their whining is of zero importance to me. It seems to me that those who think people being offended is a problem are those who chose to make it a problem because people are offended by things I say, I just take their offense to mean that we aren't compatible as friends, nothing more.The reaction is what makes the initial action of any consequence. If it weren't for people bitching and whining about being offended, the action wouldn't be important in and of itself.
It's not possible. This is why there needs to be some level of rational societal standard, otherwise it's just chaos, which serves neither side well. There are some people at one end of the spectrum that need to toughen up and not get their undies in a wad over anything and everything. By the same token, there are people on the other end of the spectrum that need to lighten up and quit being such douchebags to other people.Why should i be expected to treat every individual how "they want to be treated"? And how is that even possible?
But why does people "bitching" about a term they deem offensive matter so much? People have whined about things I say, but it has little to no impact on my life and their whining is of zero importance to me. It seems to me that those who think people being offended is a problem are those who chose to make it a problem because people are offended by things I say, I just take their offense to mean that we aren't compatible as friends, nothing more.
It's not possible. This is why there needs to be some level of rational societal standard, otherwise it's just chaos, which serves neither side well. There are some people at one end of the spectrum that need to toughen up and not get their undies in a wad over anything and everything. By the same token, there are people on the other end of the spectrum that need to lighten up and quit being such douchebags to other people.
The reaction is what makes the initial action of any consequence. If it weren't for people bitching and whining about being offended, the action wouldn't be important in and of itself.
Forcing others to comply with certain language requirements is an example.
Another pathetic example of pc gone mad is the fact that Christmas break can no longer be called Christmas break. It's now "winter break." :roll: When will this foolishness end?
being forced to call christmas break "winter break" is plain stupid, i agree. this is not the type of pc i am referring to, though. how does calling a break "christmas break" harm anyone? it doesn't. but calling a kid retarded instead of learning disabled or whatever CAN hurt. there's the difference.
I never said that you should "take into account every person on the planet". I never said that "there is a right to be offended". I never said anything about "people who spend their time being offended". People who spend their time responding to arguments that have never been made might want to take a look in the mirror and discover the reason why.
Why does it have to be someone's fault? Why isn't just two people with two different takes on a word clashing?The core of most political correctness is coming up with terms which are so bland and lifeless that nobody can conceivably take offense. I don't play that game. I don't try to offend the person I'm talking to, but if they, or someone listening, get offended, that's their fault for being over-sensitive.
Why does it have to be someone's fault? Why isn't just two people with two different takes on a word clashing?
People can say what they want.Then just use the word "American". That's a nationality, nothing about skin color belongs with it.
And it's another person using words without consideration for other people.Because one person is being offended. It's not two people using different words, it's one person getting pissed they're not both using their choice of words.
There's really no reason. Uber PC people and uber anti-PC people are pretty much the same person just with different causes. Both groups would rather people say exactly what they want them to say and nothing more. I personally think it's better to just let people say whatever and then avoid them if you don't like it.What I don't get is why some people get so offended about other people being offended.
If you don't like PC terminology, so be it, but why bother getting so offended about people being offended by non-PC terminology?
The reaction is what makes the initial action of any consequence. If it weren't for people bitching and whining about being offended, the action wouldn't be important in and of itself.
When the truth gets lost in the attempt to be polite is the easiest line to draw. However, there are certainly times when I'm willing to sacrifice the truth for the sake of politeness or PC.I think the root of the question is where the line is between commendable courtesy and condemnable political correctness?
I don't think it's "offense" at people being offended so much as disbelieving awe at just how silly and stupid it can get.What I don't get is why some people get so offended about other people being offended.
If you don't like PC terminology, so be it, but why bother getting so offended about people being offended by non-PC terminology?
I don't think it's "offense" at people being offended so much as disbelieving awe at just how silly and stupid it can get.
What I don't get is why some people get so offended about other people being offended.
If you don't like PC terminology, so be it, but why bother getting so offended about people being offended by non-PC terminology?
Close, but no. The potential reactions are what we are thinking of. However, the action reaction is not important. In the example, I don't care if some one is offended or not by being referred to as Oriental, but for my personal philosophy, since I am not trying to offend, I will use the term Asian, which I know won't offend. I would actually consider some one who was offended by the term oriental to be overly sensitive. That does not mean it is right for me to call them that.
I think the root of the question is where the line is between commendable courtesy and condemnable political correctness?
Wanting to be called African-American isn't really stupid or silly, though. I see people up in arms over that one all the time.
It's certainly not like that moron who got pissed off because another guy said something about black holes. That's silly and stupid. In fact, I'd use the non-PC term of "retard" to describe that moron in a heartbeat.
But that tard getting all up in arms over the term "black hole" is certainly not worth getting mad over. It's certainly laughable, though. Hell, you usually have to pay for that kind of funny ****, and that assclown was handing it out for free.
Dividing ourselves into races does not further our problems. Attaching meanings to races causes problems. Otherwise, race is just a convenient way to describe people.Personally, I think it is. Why the hyphenation? Can we all not be just American? Don't people realize that dividing ourselves into groups such as race only furthers our problems as a species?
But is it accurate? Is it equal? Is it truly descriptive?Wanting to be called African-American isn't really stupid or silly, though. I see people up in arms over that one all the time.
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