They'll catch him. I hope it is sooner than later. The only question is if he will kill anyone else before then.
Churches are gun free zones in SC.Police: Multiple victims in South Carolina church shooting - CBS News
This appears to be a racist attack as the suspect was reported as being white. the suspect is described as a "clean-shaven white male.
Great, just what we need after all the police brutality incidents. Hope the perpetrator is caught quickly . the church appears to be an African-American parish given the denomination and the location
To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?
Mostly that's how it happens, whereas the other way around, groups of blacks can run around, murdering whites at random and never be charged with hate crimes. There is a double standard, here.
Funny how right wingers love to say Muslims are threats yet more people in America have been killed by right wing attacks than Muslim extremists since 9/11. Condolences to the victims.
Please, in the name of all things holy, take that crap and start a thread. But for sake of everyone here who stop posting that garbage. This is not the proper thread.
The conservative Republican christian that did this hate crime is going to suffer the consequences.
Um, he posted on white supremacists sites, he went into a famous Black church, he waited for his moment and opened fire. His motive was hatred of Black people.To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?
Yeah, but I noticed that they have positively identified this one as white kid, but you have to admit that the picture shown earlier at the church looks like that of someone much darker. That is probably a bad picture, which doesn't properly show skin tones in exact lighting.
Well, the next thing is to determine his political affiliation. I hope he's not a liberal.
To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?
Are you arguing that hate crimes are not to terrorize, to subjugate victims, to remove power?Right wing? He's a 21 year old kid. What makes you think this has anything to do with politics at all?
Are you arguing that hate crimes are not to terrorize, to subjugate victims, to remove power?
I get the sentiment here. But it would do much more good if this man is caught, tried and executed. (assuming his guilt which seems pretty straightforward)
That's always my fear too Risky. As much as I want to see this SOB dead, at the same time I want him alive and singing like a canary so we know who else may harbor whatever feelings he has as well.
He told the people he murdered that he "had to do it" because "you rape our women and are taking over our country." That's the motive. He took photos of himself wearing a jacket that had the flags of Rhodesia and apartheid-era South Africa. It's safe to say it was a hate crime.To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?
None is implied, much more is exposed by your inference.Try not to sound so much like you're gloating.
Look, man. "Hate crime" is immaterial in these type of cases. All it does is allow some people to justify their outrage. The fact of the matter is that if you murder someone you're getting the needle or you're getting a life sentence. If you murder more than one you get consecutive sentences. To that end, a "hate crime" conviction doesn't add a damned thing to the punishment. Maybe this guy will get another 180 years tacked on to his nine life sentences when this is all said and done but, frankly, I doubt that he'll care at that point.
The suspect was arrested at a traffic stop. He's in custody.
So your argument is that the identification of hate crimes was to modify punishment?Look, man. "Hate crime" is immaterial in these type of cases. All it does is allow some people to justify their outrage. The fact of the matter is that if you murder someone you're getting the needle or you're getting a life sentence. If you murder more than one you get consecutive sentences. To that end, a "hate crime" conviction doesn't add a damned thing to the punishment. Maybe this guy will get another 180 years tacked on to his nine life sentences when this is all said and done but, frankly, I doubt that he'll care at that point.
Erod is saying it because he has a record of supporting police brutality, I say it because I doubt the victims of this crime will get proper justice. There is no shared sentiment.
Yes, it does matter.. there is a difference between hate crime and random crime.
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