Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

[trixare4kids]

That's right. No LE officer does. But that is exactly what this LE officer did. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

You are reaching. You have no concrete proof that supports your faulty allegations.

 

[post]

That's a pretty dumb comment considering the circumstances. Dude started uncooperative, tried to run, fought with the police officer, and grabbed his taser. Seems like the officer shot him only at the point where he was nearly too exhausted to properly defend himself. Always the same bullshit from leftists on issues like this. Ya'll need to go step up and show everyone else how it's done right or sit down.

In reaction to an expired vehicle registration, "crime"? Consider the civil judgment pay outs in these cases and "get real". The LEO is
more responsible than the motorist with the lapsed vehicle registration because the LEO does this routinely. The motorist considers
the lack of the severity of the predication and is suddenly involved in an escalation in which, "out comes the Taser!" The LEO wants
immediate compliance, respect.... at what cost? Your assumptions are absurd in 2022 America, versus what is unfolding, over and over,
in front of our eyes!

Here's the chief of investigatory non-compliance, resistance, and obstruction, a fish unaware he is wet!:

Trump: Rayshard Brooks’ killing ‘terrible situation,’ but ‘you can’t resist’ cops

President Trump called the killing of Rayshard Brooks at the hands of an Atlanta cop a “terrible situation,” but added in a televised interview that “you can’t resist a police officer.” The preside…

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"...But he added that law enforcement officers “have not been treated fairly.”

“I thought it was a terrible situation, but you can’t resist a police officer,” Trump said. “And, you know, if you have a disagreement, you have to take it up after the fact.”.."

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If police know who you are and not accusing you of a violent crime, they should be instructed not to tase or shoot you
if you flee, on the grounds that the costs associated with civil liability of using deadly or Taser force are unsustainable to
the taxing entity. "Catch up" in court with offenses associated with the motorist fleeing under such circumstances. Cops and
their supervisors have enough experience by now to accept they cannot shoot their way out of noncompliance by non-violent,
minor offenders.

When they resist or attempt to leave, don't turn them into violent offenders by attempting to detain them using physical contact
and restraint or by tasing because it is uneconomical, petty, unjustifiably risky to LEOs putting these traffic stops into coffins.
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news...ction-in-deadly-grand-rapids-police-shooting/

'A traffic stop should never be a death sentence': Grand ...​

https://www.clickondetroit.com › local › 2022/04/14
1 day ago — Tags: Grand Rapids Police Department, Grand Rapids Police, GRPD, Grand Rapids, Michigan State Police, Eric Winstrom, African American, ...

https://public.powerdms.com/GRANDRAPIDS/documents/89670

"Use of Force 9-1.1 Grand Rapids Police – Manual of Procedures 1/19/2021

A. PURPOSE. To provide personnel with a procedure regarding use of force B. GOALS
1. Use only a reasonable amount of force to conduct law enforcement activities.

2. Use only a reasonable amount of force to save lives, overcome resistance, maintain an advantage, and protect property.

3. Use deadly force only to defend themselves, another officer, or another person against a reasonable threat of death or serious bodily injury; or to prevent the escape of a subject who is fleeing from an inherently violent felony crime, when the officer has probable cause to believe the subject poses a reasonable threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others. ..."

 

[donhughesmusic]

Seems like the officer shot him only at the point where he was nearly too exhausted to properly defend himself.

That's an interesting quote there. I've always advocated cops learning Jiu-Jitsu. It's an amazing grappling martial art. Hell, looking at that video, he could have used a variety of techniques having his back like that without pulling his gun.

 

[jaypatriot]

Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Some on this forum say the killing was quite OK.
What do you think?

I chose Not OK.

My big question is why didn't the cop either his baton on the fleeing suspect or subdue him with a taser.?

And why does it always seem to be a young black man, with a warrant out for his arrest, who thinks he can escape from a cop with a gun?

Regardless, Ben Crump was on the scene again with the young victim's relatives comforting them and anticipating a big payoff from the city.
He doesn't need to chase ambulances any more. He simply shows up where the relatives are and gets a front row seat.
If I worked as a reporter writing that, as my opinion, I would be fired on the spot.

 

[Atomic Kid]

That's a pretty dumb comment considering the circumstances. Dude started uncooperative, tried to run, fought with the police officer, and grabbed his taser. Seems like the officer shot him only at the point where he was nearly too exhausted to properly defend himself. Always the same bullshit from leftists on issues like this. Ya'll need to go step up and show everyone else how it's done right or sit down.

BS! This cop is going to prison. Where he belongs. It was a basic gangland style execution over a traffic stop for Christ's sake.

 

[Rumpelstil]

Seems like the officer shot him only at the point where he was nearly too exhausted to properly defend himself. Always the same bullshit from leftists on issues like this.

"Oh - the poor poor officer
He was 10000000000 per cent blameless.
It was all the victims fault."

-------------

Always the same BS from far rightist racists, who still live in times of "Gone with the Wind".

 

[Rumpelstil]

BS! This cop is going to prison. Where he belongs. It was a basic gangland style execution over a traffic stop for Christ's sake.

This cop should never see daylight again or breath air in the open air.
I wonder where the US autorities recruit their police from?
Preferably from former war criminals or other sadists?
And stupid as well?

 

[Rumpelstil]

Patrick Lyoya was murdered in cold blood by a poorly trained and very incompetent LEO - on the FOURTH OF APRIL already.
And only now the news is spreading.

What about "Black Lives Matter"?
Obviously they don't matter much, after all?

 

[The flaming lib]

Fake video too?

No. Just your post above

 

[Rumpelstil]

No LE officer has the right to execute anyone.

Of course not.
But that still anonymous police officer did it all the same.

 

[Rumpelstil]

10 out of 14 say: not OK now

 

[Rumpelstil]

End of voting?

 

[Rumpelstil]

Video Shows Grand Rapids Police Officer Fatally Shooting Patrick Lyoya​

 

[Fishking]

"Oh - the poor poor officer
He was 10000000000 per cent blameless.
It was all the victims fault."

-------------

Always the same BS from far rightist racists, who still live in times of "Gone with the Wind".

I notice you didn't address a single point I brought up that lead to the shooting. I wonder why that is? Actually, I don't wonder.

 

[Fishking]

BS! This cop is going to prison. Where he belongs. It was a basic gangland style execution over a traffic stop for Christ's sake.

Utterly stupid comment that I don't think even you believe. You just want to because of your corrupt ideology. But please, show me where gangs reasonably stop someone for driving with the wrong tags on a vehicle, then didn't comply with any command, then tried to flee, then fought with them, then grabbed their less-lethal device, and THEN shot the person.

Just give me a link of anything remotely close to that of a "gangland style execution".

 

[Common Sense 1]

In reaction to an expired vehicle registration, "crime"? Consider the civil judgment pay outs in these cases and "get real". The LEO is
more responsible than the motorist with the lapsed vehicle registration because the LEO does this routinely. The motorist considers
the lack of the severity of the predication and is suddenly involved in an escalation in which, "out comes the Taser!" The LEO wants
immediate compliance, respect.... at what cost? Your assumptions are absurd in 2022 America, versus what is unfolding, over and over,
in front of our eyes!

Here's the chief of investigatory non-compliance, resistance, and obstruction, a fish unaware he is wet!:

Trump: Rayshard Brooks’ killing ‘terrible situation,’ but ‘you can’t resist’ cops

President Trump called the killing of Rayshard Brooks at the hands of an Atlanta cop a “terrible situation,” but added in a televised interview that “you can’t resist a police officer.” The preside…

nypost.com

"...But he added that law enforcement officers “have not been treated fairly.”

“I thought it was a terrible situation, but you can’t resist a police officer,” Trump said. “And, you know, if you have a disagreement, you have to take it up after the fact.”.."

Trump Told Russians That Firing 'Nut Job' Comey Eased ...​

https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
May 19, 2017 — WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, ...

Trump refuses to rule out opponents being executed for treason​

https://www.independent.co.uk › ... › US politics
May 24, 2019 — "The US president listed former FBI directors James Comey and Andrew McCabe, as well as agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, when asked who he ..."

If police know who you are and not accusing you of a violent crime, they should be instructed not to tase or shoot you
if you flee, on the grounds that the costs associated with civil liability of using deadly or Taser force are unsustainable to
the taxing entity. "Catch up" in court with offenses associated with the motorist fleeing under such circumstances. Cops and
their supervisors have enough experience by now to accept they cannot shoot their way out of noncompliance by non-violent,
minor offenders.

When they resist or attempt to leave, don't turn them into violent offenders by attempting to detain them using physical contact
and restraint or by tasing because it is uneconomical, petty, unjustifiably risky to LEOs putting these traffic stops into coffins.
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news...ction-in-deadly-grand-rapids-police-shooting/

'A traffic stop should never be a death sentence': Grand ...​

https://www.clickondetroit.com › local › 2022/04/14
1 day ago — Tags: Grand Rapids Police Department, Grand Rapids Police, GRPD, Grand Rapids, Michigan State Police, Eric Winstrom, African American, ...

https://public.powerdms.com/GRANDRAPIDS/documents/89670

"Use of Force 9-1.1 Grand Rapids Police – Manual of Procedures 1/19/2021

A. PURPOSE. To provide personnel with a procedure regarding use of force B. GOALS
1. Use only a reasonable amount of force to conduct law enforcement activities.

2. Use only a reasonable amount of force to save lives, overcome resistance, maintain an advantage, and protect property.

3. Use deadly force only to defend themselves, another officer, or another person against a reasonable threat of death or serious bodily injury; or to prevent the escape of a subject who is fleeing from an inherently violent felony crime, when the officer has probable cause to believe the subject poses a reasonable threat of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or others. ..."

What a rant....
Who failed to listen to the officer?
Who escalated the situation and continued the physical fight with the officer?
Fight the police and bad things can happen!

 

[Common Sense 1]

BS! This cop is going to prison. Where he belongs. It was a basic gangland style execution over a traffic stop for Christ's sake.

More insane posting! Only comment for this one!

 

[Common Sense 1]

This cop should never see daylight again or breath air in the open air.
I wonder where the US autorities recruit their police from?
Preferably from former war criminals or other sadists?
And stupid as well?

Hyperbole to the very extreme.

 

[tres borrachos]

Nor I. All I really know about him is that he was killed, he was 26, he was in Grand Rapids at the time, and @Rumpel finds his death to be worthy of a poll.

He was shot in the back of the head by a police officer who was lying on his back.

 

[tres borrachos]

makes two of us-probably a lot more

You must not ever watch the news. It was all over the news yesterday.

 

[donhughesmusic]

You must not ever watch the news. It was all over the news yesterday.

People work for a living. I myself knew nothing about it till after 9pm when I got home from work. I'm not paid to sit on my phone and look up stuff. I am paid to do a job. I am not going to risk losing my job because I am watching TV or on my phone ever half an hour. When I am at work, I am working.

 

[tres borrachos]

People work for a living. I myself knew nothing about it till after 9pm when I got home from work. I'm not paid to sit on my phone and look up stuff. I am paid to do a job. I am not going to risk losing my job because I am watching TV or on my phone ever half an hour. When I am at work, I am working.

Turtle does not work for a living, as he loves to tell us morning, noon and night. I wasn't referring to you. I posted to him.

 

[Rickeroo]

Looks like this was the guy that went for the cop's taser. As Americans, we have two tiers of social responsibility based on race.

I've advised my son (and indeed, myself) that if we try to grab a cop's taser, we can probably expect to be met with lethal force.

 

[Ren]

Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Some on this forum say the killing was quite OK.
What do you think?

I think the Left is looking for another opportunity to unleash Antifa and BLM on more US cities.

 

[Ren]

Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Some on this forum say the killing was quite OK.
What do you think?

I'm still trying to figure out why the guy ran.