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Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

  • That was NOT OK

    Votes: 23 63.9%

  • That was quite OK

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • other

    Votes: 10 27.8%
  • Total voters
    36
Now:

  • Total voters 9
8 x that was not OK
1 x other
 
Now I say "Good night!"
 
Rumpel said:
Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Some on this forum say the killing was quite OK.
What do you think?
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Is killing another ever ok? Why does this stand out to you?
 
I believe criminals should run free and police abolished.

It's what's best for criminals.
 
Rumpel said:
Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Some on this forum say the killing was quite OK.
What do you think?
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Speaking very generally, killing is never OK.

Sometimes, however, it is necessary.

I have no idea if this case is one of the latter.
 
Rumpel said:
Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Some on this forum say the killing was quite OK.
What do you think?
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Of course he deserved it. He resisted for no reason. He was a bad dude. I side with the police. You can't let the animals run the zoo.
 
tshade said:
Of course he deserved it. He resisted for no reason. He was a bad dude. I side with the police. You can't let the animals run the zoo.
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Say what?
 
Rumpel said:
Patrick Lyoya, 26, was killed outside a house in Grand Rapids, Michigan. What do you think of it?

Some on this forum say the killing was quite OK.
What do you think?
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I chose other for the reasons already provided in an earlier thread on the topic, found here:

White Michigan Cop Shoots/Kills Young Black Male Driver

I cannot believe this has happened again. I don't care what race the driver was as the cop IMO was beyond wrong here. Granted that the driver was not the most compliant person in the world, but to end up dead over a possible stolen car? This shit has to stop...
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I will add that I will wait and see how this investigation progresses, if criminal charges are filed, and if not why not.

If so, then the results of any trial.
 
phoenix2020 said:
Nor I. All I really know about him is that he was killed, he was 26, he was in Grand Rapids at the time, and @Rumpel finds his death to be worthy of a poll.
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All the way in Germany at that. Slow news day in Krautland.
 
TurtleDude said:
I think I will ignore this thread then
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Have you noticed a pattern in which these "encounters" escalate because the Taser does not have the intended effect on the
subject resisting arrest, the subject becomes more aggressive instead of immobilized or subdued by the Taser and the surprised
LEO exhibits no planned back up reaction other than use of deadly force?

en.wikipedia.org

Killing of Rayshard Brooks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
"..At 11:23,[16] Rolfe told Brooks: "All right, I think you've had too much to drink to be driving. Put your hands behind your back for me";[19] he and Brosnan then moved behind Brooks to handcuff him.[14] Brooks tried to break free and he and the officers scuffled on the ground. During the struggle Brosnan drew his taser, but Brooks wrested it from him and fired it;[24] Brosnan says the taser contacted him and he struck his head on the pavement, causing a concussion.[20] Brooks stood up and punched Rolfe, who drew his own taser and fired both cartridges at Brooks with no effect.[21] Brooks fled through the parking lot with Brosnan's taser still in hand. While still running, Brooks glanced back, half-turned, and fired the second shot of Brosnan's taser – capable of two shots before being reloaded[22] – at Rolfe but "his aim was high".[15][23]

According to prosecutors, Brooks and Rolfe were 18 feet (5.5 m) apart[25][a] when Rolfe dropped his taser, drew his handgun[15] and shot Brooks once in the midback and once in the buttocks;[26] prosecutors allege the third shot struck a nearby vehicle, .."

www.nytimes.com

How Rayshard Brooks Was Fatally Shot by the Atlanta Police (Published 2020)

One officer has been fired and another placed on administrative duty. A Times video analysis shows the sequence of events leading to the fatal shooting.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
June 14, 2020

"..Mr. Brooks says “Mr. Rolfe, come on man. Mr. Rolfe.” He seizes a Taser from Officer Brosnan, stands up and punches Officer Rolfe. Officer Rolfe fires his Taser gun. The darts hit Mr. Brooks, and Officer Rolfe continues trying to stun him.
Mr. Brooks runs away, holding Officer Brosnan’s Taser gun. Officer Rolfe gives chase, and continues to try to stun Mr. Brooks..."
 
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Captain Adverse said:
I chose other for the reasons already provided in an earlier thread on the topic, found here:

White Michigan Cop Shoots/Kills Young Black Male Driver

I cannot believe this has happened again. I don't care what race the driver was as the cop IMO was beyond wrong here. Granted that the driver was not the most compliant person in the world, but to end up dead over a possible stolen car? This shit has to stop...
debatepolitics.com debatepolitics.com

I will add that I will wait and see how this investigation progresses, if criminal charges are filed, and if not why not.

If so, then the results of any trial.
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I like to know what is going on before 'voting' one way or the other as well. Dare I say that we are being swayed by the mentioning of skin color? Dare I say this at the risk of being called whatever the insulte du jour?
Why do we have to start out with black/white instead of human? Why is it ever ok to kill another?
 
Lovebug said:
I like to know what is going on before 'voting' one way or the other as well. Dare I say that we are being swayed by the mentioning of skin color? Dare I say this at the risk of being called whatever the insulte du jour?
Why do we have to start out with black/white instead of human? Why is it ever ok to kill another?
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Self defense
Endangering an officer/or others
 
post said:
Have you noticed a pattern in which these "encounters" escalate because the Taser does not have the intended effect on the
subject resisting arrest, the subject becomes more aggressive instead of immobilized or subdued by the Taser and the surprised
LEO exhibits no planned back up reaction other than use of deadly force?

en.wikipedia.org

Killing of Rayshard Brooks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
"..At 11:23,[16] Rolfe told Brooks: "All right, I think you've had too much to drink to be driving. Put your hands behind your back for me";[19] he and Brosnan then moved behind Brooks to handcuff him.[14] Brooks tried to break free and he and the officers scuffled on the ground. During the struggle Brosnan drew his taser, but Brooks wrested it from him and fired it;[24] Brosnan says the taser contacted him and he struck his head on the pavement, causing a concussion.[20] Brooks stood up and punched Rolfe, who drew his own taser and fired both cartridges at Brooks with no effect.[21] Brooks fled through the parking lot with Brosnan's taser still in hand. While still running, Brooks glanced back, half-turned, and fired the second shot of Brosnan's taser – capable of two shots before being reloaded[22] – at Rolfe but "his aim was high".[15][23]

According to prosecutors, Brooks and Rolfe were 18 feet (5.5 m) apart[25][a] when Rolfe dropped his taser, drew his handgun[15] and shot Brooks once in the midback and once in the buttocks;[26] prosecutors allege the third shot struck a nearby vehicle, .."

www.nytimes.com

How Rayshard Brooks Was Fatally Shot by the Atlanta Police (Published 2020)

One officer has been fired and another placed on administrative duty. A Times video analysis shows the sequence of events leading to the fatal shooting.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
June 14, 2020

"..Mr. Brooks says “Mr. Rolfe, come on man. Mr. Rolfe.” He seizes a Taser from Officer Brosnan, stands up and punches Officer Rolfe. Officer Rolfe fires his Taser gun. The darts hit Mr. Brooks, and Officer Rolfe continues trying to stun him.
Mr. Brooks runs away, holding Officer Brosnan’s Taser gun. Officer Rolfe gives chase, and continues to try to stun Mr. Brooks..."
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Michigan cop on Black man's back, fatally shot him

ok. When was the last time the news reported that a black LEO shot a (pick your race)? Why make the emphasize the LEO race? There are cases that a LEO has used deadly force without cause. There are cases that LEO's have been abusive to victims. Those LEO's should be removed from law...
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