• Please read the Announcement concerning missing posts from 10/8/25-10/15/25.
  • This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

O'Reilly Says He May "Pack It In" If Obama Raises Taxes On Him Too Much

buck said:
Given time, it may or may not be as safe as germany is now. Despite how things look at this time, you have no idea what the future holds. unless you finally got that crystal ball.

In the future, Obamacare will most likely be far more expensive then maintaining a base in Iraq. And single payer, as you were calling for, would definetly be far more expensive then either. Can we afford it?
Click to expand...

No crystal ball needed. After all, foresight is a real skill. Wish Bush had listened to those who had foresight. It is helpful before we have to assess with hindsight. It is not likely that peace will come anywhere near as fast as it has in Germany. The history gives us clues. We should not ignore it. History can inform the future to a degree.
 
Boo Radley said:
No crystal ball needed. After all, foresight is a real skill. Wish Bush had listened to those who had foresight. It is helpful before we have to assess with hindsight. It is not likely that peace will come anywhere near as fast as it has in Germany. The history gives us clues. We should not ignore it. History can inform the future to a degree.
Click to expand...

What was the history of Germany again?
 
buck said:
What was the history of Germany again?
Click to expand...

Nothing like the history of the Iraq and that part of the world. Very different. Very, very different.
 
Boo Radley said:
Nothing like the history of the Iraq and that part of the world. Very different. Very, very different.
Click to expand...

Different? Sure. But Germany was violent. Germany basically started 2 world wars.

Regardless, the cost of maintaining the embassy down there won't be much. It will be far less then the temporary spending involved in executing the war. It will also be far less expensive then much of the new and permanent spending begun under Obama.
 
buck said:
Different? Sure. But Germany was violent. Germany basically started 2 world wars.

Regardless, the cost of maintaining the embassy down there won't be much. It will be far less then the temporary spending involved in executing the war. It will also be far less expensive then much of the new and permanent spending begun under Obama.
Click to expand...

Not really at war with itself. No, that difference is major and not something to be dismissed.

No matter how much, it will be a cost. Just as they are all costly. Think of it like NPR or PBS, also not a huge cost, less than the cost of an emabssy, but something Fox and conservatives love to want to get rid of. ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
Not really at war with itself. No, that difference is major and not something to be dismissed.

No matter how much, it will be a cost. Just as they are all costly. Think of it like NPR or PBS, also not a huge cost, less than the cost of an emabssy, but something Fox and conservatives love to want to get rid of. ;)
Click to expand...

No one wants to get rid of NPR or PBS. They just don't believe that the government should be paying for it. Are you suggesting that the government should not be paying for embassys in ohter countries? Good luck with that.

Guess who else was basically at war with themselves? Militarized crossing from one side to the other resulting in the deaths of many that tried to cross. Germany has had a long and violent history. Long before modern times. They changed. Things changed. There is little reason to believe that Iraq absolutely can not change.
 
Last edited:
To the OP. I lol'ed when I saw this, so he says, if he raises taxes on me, I quit? That is sound logic, so if your job gives you a pay deduction, do you quit?
 
buck said:
No one wants to get rid of NPR or PBS. They just don't believe that the government should be paying for it. Are you suggesting that the government should not be paying for embassys in ohter countries? Good luck with that.

Guess who else was basically at war with themselves? Militarized crossing from one side to the other resulting in the deaths of many that tried to cross. Germany has had a long and violent history. Long before modern times. They changed. Things changed. There is little reason to believe that Iraq absolutely can not change.
Click to expand...

I might well suggest we don't need one there, or in the numebr and force we have around the world. And no, Germany's history is NOT equal to Iraq's in terms of the division and violance. Sorry.
 
Boo Radley said:
I might well suggest we don't need one there, or in the numebr and force we have around the world. And no, Germany's history is NOT equal to Iraq's in terms of the division and violance. Sorry.
Click to expand...

Never said they were equal. Even agreed they were different. But the fact remains that things change - including Germany. Hell, Vietnam and China have all changed in the not too distant past. China was a very violent country for millenium that was in nearly constant civil war.

We don't need an embassy in Iraq? Interesting. I've never heard anyone suggest not having an embassy in a country we are not at war with. I have heard that an embassy there does not necessarily have to be quite as large as the one we now have (or are building). But, who cares what your opinion is there. The fact remains that there are things the government should do (matain embasies in foreign countries) and things they should not do (government funded media).
 
buck said:
Never said they were equal. Even agreed they were different. But the fact remains that things change - including Germany. Hell, Vietnam and China have all changed in the not too distant past. China was a very violent country for millenium that was in nearly constant civil war.

We don't need an embassy in Iraq? Interesting. I've never heard anyone suggest not having an embassy in a country we are not at war with. I have heard that an embassy there does not necessarily have to be quite as large as the one we now have (or are building). But, who cares what your opinion is there. The fact remains that there are things the government should do (matain embasies in foreign countries) and things they should not do (government funded media).
Click to expand...

Change? Maybe. But I look at Israel and Palestine and I don't see change being the big word. I look at Iraq, artificually shoved together and I see more similarity with that conflict than germany, though not perfect either. The odds are it won't change in our lifetime. And that means a rather large expense for a while.

We spend a bundle on the one we have now, so this means we will have one. But, no, we did not need one there. And the cost to have one has been high on many different fronts.

NPR btw is public funded. There is a history as to why, and it has nothing to do with government media.
 
haymarket said:
Sorry to burst your bubble.....

Limbaugh: I'll Leave US If Health Care Reform Passes (VIDEO)

Not only do we have his words in print

but the audio from his show is there for you also.

And please note that while the conversation begins with going elsewhere for health care, Limbaugh clearly goes beyond that and simply makes a blanket statement that he will leave the USA and go to Costa Rica.
Click to expand...
I am reasonably confident that you could understand this if you chose to...
And note your lie, for that is what a dishonest misrepresentation is, isn't it?
What he said:
I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented -- I am leaving the country.​

What you claimed he said:
I'll Leave US If Health Care Reform Passes​
 
Last edited:
haymarket said:
Get real man. Threatening to leave because you are angry about some political development is still threatening to leave because you are angry about some political development.

And the bottom line here is one of total fraud and hypocrisy. Limbaugh and O'Rielly are not going anywhere.Their right wing whacko train makes too much oney for them to grind it to a halt. This is just macho posturing trying to make it sound like they are being driven from the shores of the USA. Its utter BS.
Click to expand...
Limbaugh was asked a question. "Where will you go for health care? Answer, "I would leave the country."

I am very disappointed.
 
Boo Radley said:
However, I doubt germany is a good comparison to Iraq in any way at all.
Click to expand...
It might be. Militant Islamism is on the rise there as elsewhere.
Eventually we are going to have to decisively defeat Islam. Or Islam shall assuredly defeat us.
 
Bill O'Rielly say's it the way it is....And 99% of the time he is spot-on correct....God Bless that man.
 
I sure hope for Mr. Bill O'Reilly's sake that Obama doesn't raise his taxes to.... Reagan levels. :(

Misterveritis said:
It might be. Militant Islamism is on the rise there as elsewhere.
Eventually we are going to have to decisively defeat Islam. Or Islam shall assuredly defeat us.
Click to expand...

The real world is not a cartoon show.
 
Misterveritis said:
It might be. Militant Islamism is on the rise there as elsewhere.
Eventually we are going to have to decisively defeat Islam. Or Islam shall assuredly defeat us.
Click to expand...

How can they possibily defeat us? Aren't be just a little hyperbolic?
 
dixiesolutions said:
Bill O'Rielly say's it the way it is....And 99% of the time he is spot-on correct....God Bless that man.
Click to expand...

I think you have it backwards.

Do try to remember he's a political entertainer who isn't concerned with accuracy. He says stupid **** to get people to tune in. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
I think you have it backwards.

Do try to remember he's a political entertainer who isn't concerned with accuracy. He says stupid **** to get people to tune in. :coffeepap
Click to expand...

Your wrong there genious....O'Reilly is very accurate in what he say's about todays politics.
The thing liberals hate about it?......The Truth Hurts.
 
dixiesolutions said:
Your wrong there genious....O'Reilly is very accurate in what he say's about todays politics.
The thing liberals hate about it?......The Truth Hurts.
Click to expand...

Despite being completely wrong and ignorant, you're right.
 
Boo Radley said:
How can they possibily defeat us? Aren't be just a little hyperbolic?
Click to expand...
In the same way liberalism has come so close. Little by little. The salami approach. Cut just a little bit off at a time. Pretty soon you have most of the salami.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom