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Ok, now let's see what happens to fast food restaurants in Commiefornia

fmw said:
No, the problem has been devaluation of the currency throughout my lifetime. My brand new 1964 VW beetle cost $1645. It has nothing to do with libertarianism. It is about government creating money from nothing. Doing that devalues the existing dollars. The dollar is worth less than 10% of what it was worth when I was born. Left up to you guys government would be so large that we would all choke on it.
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fmw said:
We don't agree on a definition of inflation.
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Who ever the we is you mention, I don't know... You can challenge the linked info all you want... But all you have to challenge it with is your opinion.
 
RealityNow said:
Who ever the we is you mention, I don't know... You can challenge the linked info all you want... But all you have to challenge it with is your opinion.
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We means you and me. Throwing prices in with expansion of the money supply is nuts since each has different causes, effects and cures. Prices rise and fall because of changes in supply and demand. They are temporary. Expanding the money supply devalues the dollar permanently. It doesn't have to be permanent but a debtor government will never allow the money supply to deflate so inflation never reverses itself. That is why a Big Mac cost 65 cents in 1970 and $6.5 today. Prices would have risen and fallen over that time but the steady, permanent devaluation of the money produced what you are talking about.
 
fmw said:
We means you and me. Throwing prices in with expansion of the money supply is nuts since each has different causes, effects and cures. Prices rise and fall because of changes in supply and demand. They are temporary. Expanding the money supply devalues the dollar permanently. It doesn't have to be permanent but a debtor government will never allow the money supply to deflate so inflation never reverses itself. That is why a Big Mac cost 65 cents in 1970 and $6.5 today. Prices would have risen and fallen over that time but the steady, permanent devaluation of the money produced what you are talking about.
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I think its a matter of "Greed" that is involved within the process.... Greed is a conglomeration of many elements of madness, its the equal of something like "Fools Gold"... they think, more is greater. when in actuality.. more in the sense of overly inflated prices might add more 0's to ones wealthy, but in essence their wealthy has less buying power because it takes more 0's to buy what less 0's would buy in the past.

The government printing money did not cause a $30,000 house in the 1970's to be over $700-800,000 today. That is pure "greed" programming that was orchestrated by a system which included, banking, other finance system, including appraisers and the whole gambit.... chasing pure "greed".

Today, I can go out and do a few things and some time maybe only 1 or two things, and the expense become $100 easily. for what would be far less decades ago.

I went into a store Saturday, wanted to buy a Pay Day Candy Bar... one was $1.89 and the other size not much bigger, with tax was $3.08 cent.... I can go to one of the dollar stores and buy an entire bag of Pay Day Candy Bars for $3-4. I saw where Walmart increased the price of that bag to $6.+;.

We have a University System every since the days of the Junk Bonds" and the Reagan Era of promoting "Greed as Good"... that has been the training basis and these people come out of these over priced Universities with an groomed and trained in expectation that they should be made wealthy, instantly, and even quicker if they came from a wealthy family.

This is not the government's doing, this is "Greed Men" ...... who have been trained to chase greed on a "Get Rich Quick Ideology" that's been spread across in to the general population. It's how people like Bernie Madoff could fleece people, because they became "Greed Blind"...
We recently have seen it by every type of product producers including the Oil companies... disrespect America and American People, all for the sake of Greed, and they use anything to initiate another run as Greed Hoarding'.... They saw the pandemic as a Opportunity to Become Greed Mad and Driven to a level of Pure Avarice. That's the Inflation we are dealing with this very day and time.

We've see the Military Industrial Complex, engaged Greed for 20 yrs during the War.. and they can't fathom not making that level of money now that the Wars are over... So, they continue seeking out new ways to engage 'Greed Madness"
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The only ability we have to combat it is.... The Government... but we have too many people in Government who grew up 'chasing the get rich quick agenda" until they sell out the voice of the people ... and we sit back and allow "big money" to keep them in the seats... because we are "Politically Illiterate as a Society"... and vote for Belligerence, rather than embrace Intellect. We have an entire segment of society, that think Intellect is weak, while it considers Belligerence as Strength, and it is the Belligerence that backs and supports the "Greed Programming Madness".

American Government would much prefer the U.S. Dollar to have better buying power, because it supports America having better position to Export its Goods as a Favored Product at an affordable price to countries who import our products.

China does not allow its currency to float so they can keep their prices low, so their exportable goods continue to be lower cost to importating nations.
 
Corporate Greed is Astronomical.... I just saw my vehicle insurace increase $120 on each of my vehicles, I had a fence installed, it cost me around $8K and now to do my roof is another $8-9K. The insurance company, wants to give me less than what my deductable is, so they would have to pay me "$0".

We sit back in over Illiteracy on many levels, to watch Publicly Traded Companies, pay CEO's Multiple Millions, when it takes days upon days of production, just to meet the payroll for Executives... and then the products get smaller, the quality get lower and lower and then they waste fortunes on Advertising to play on the manic egos of people, until they become obsessed with pursuing the purchase.

It's the people who give away their power... by and through their own vanity and ego obsessions and fixations of "gotta have it" mentality... and what do they do? they weaken themselves by going into debt to get it. Only to find out in 6-9 months that thing they obsessed over is obselete.

We need a more intellegent society, one less driven by drama antics, vanity and ego... and one that is learned and invest in understanding the true value of what "We The People" actually means. But... we can't get there ... beause we can't get past the historical "ingrained racism" and "classism" that has been bred and fed into the vanity obsessive of people.

But... Time has a way to fix things, because with the Climate Change... people will have little choice other than to start thinking more "responsibly"... not only in what they do, but how they think, and what they learn to discern between what is a want and what is a need.

The younger enlightened members of the generations that will dominate the future are already far ahead in appreciating the human diversity, which is step one... because they are not growing up being fed the incessant over bearing food of racism.... They are not fed the arrogane of bigotry, they have become to understand more of what "compassion is".... Even as some of their parents try to tell them, to abandon compassion, and pursue their own self centered greed.
Many of the more intellectual young people are not accepting, feeding on it nor will they have it force fed into them.

They are not going to give their labor and time to "greed hoarders" as the generation did before them for low pay, while the greed hoarding types of employers fleece them of their labor, time and incumber them to be forced to live a life wrapped in debt, for the very basics of living standards.

The right wing establishment is fighting against them, but they won't win, because time will continue to see many of those groomed in old ideology continue to die out more and more every year, and others being exposed more and more every day for the antics of greed and madness they engage.

People of lesser minds try not to believe it... but that greed based system of white nationalist ideology is a dying system, and its fighting like hell to try and stay relevant... but their own barbaric savagery continues to expose exactly whom they are.

We saw this system over time of past history, when the cycle of the break down of "the institution of slavery was brought down" and we will see the system of institutional white nationalism and its greed programming agenda, brought down.

It's the progression of life... that the more people learn, the better they become at thinking and being aware, and once they are aware, they learn how and what they need to do.... to advance a better modeling of society.
 
RealityNow said:
Corporate Greed is Astronomical.... I just saw my vehicle insurace increase $120 on each of my vehicles, I had a fence installed, it cost me around $8K and now to do my roof is another $8-9K. The insurance company, wants to give me less than what my deductable is, so they would have to pay me "$0".

We sit back in over Illiteracy on many levels, to watch Publicly Traded Companies, pay CEO's Multiple Millions, when it takes days upon days of production, just to meet the payroll for Executives... and then the products get smaller, the quality get lower and lower and then they waste fortunes on Advertising to play on the manic egos of people, until they become obsessed with pursuing the purchase.

It's the people who give away their power... by and through their own vanity and ego obsessions and fixations of "gotta have it" mentality... and what do they do? they weaken themselves by going into debt to get it. Only to find out in 6-9 months that thing they obsessed over is obselete.

We need a more intellegent society, one less driven by drama antics, vanity and ego... and one that is learned and invest in understanding the true value of what "We The People" actually means. But... we can't get there ... beause we can't get past the historical "ingrained racism" and "classism" that has been bred and fed into the vanity obsessive of people.

But... Time has a way to fix things, because with the Climate Change... people will have little choice other than to start thinking more "responsibly"... not only in what they do, but how they think, and what they learn to discern between what is a want and what is a need.

The younger enlightened members of the generations that will dominate the future are already far ahead in appreciating the human diversity, which is step one... because they are not growing up being fed the incessant over bearing food of racism.... They are not fed the arrogane of bigotry, they have become to understand more of what "compassion is".... Even as some of their parents try to tell them, to abandon compassion, and pursue their own self centered greed.
Many of the more intellectual young people are not accepting, feeding on it nor will they have it force fed into them.

They are not going to give their labor and time to "greed hoarders" as the generation did before them for low pay, while the greed hoarding types of employers fleece them of their labor, time and incumber them to be forced to live a life wrapped in debt, for the very basics of living standards.

The right wing establishment is fighting against them, but they won't win, because time will continue to see many of those groomed in old ideology continue to die out more and more every year, and others being exposed more and more every day for the antics of greed and madness they engage.

People of lesser minds try not to believe it... but that greed based system of white nationalist ideology is a dying system, and its fighting like hell to try and stay relevant... but their own barbaric savagery continues to expose exactly whom they are.

We saw this system over time of past history, when the cycle of the break down of "the institution of slavery was brought down" and we will see the system of institutional white nationalism and its greed programming agenda, brought down.

It's the progression of life... that the more people learn, the better they become at thinking and being aware, and once they are aware, they learn how and what they need to do.... to advance a better modeling of society.
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Nice rant. You don't believe in capitalism so there is no point in my taking this any further.
 
RealityNow said:
Who ever the we is you mention, I don't know... You can challenge the linked info all you want... But all you have to challenge it with is your opinion.
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Correct. Battles of opinions are what drives this entire forum.
 
mrjurrs said:
Like the Articles of Confederation?

Your desire to see the end of the American experiment is noted.
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No, I want to return to the American experiment. It worked.
 
fmw said:
Correct. Battles of opinions are what drives this entire forum.
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Yes, that is true... but what I posted was "linked info"... if you choose to challenge it, you may do so at your leisure.
 
fmw said:
Nice rant. You don't believe in capitalism so there is no point in my taking this any further.
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So, my difference in viewpoints in reference to your opinion, you take the position as if you are the only one who has a concept of what is "Capitalism". Quite interesting...

 
Lursa said:
Nooooooooooo! Nooooo! Think of the french fries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Freedom fries. Funny story about that. I figured let's have some fun with it. So, while I was in Kenya, I told people Americans call them freedom fries. They all believed me because they'd never heard of French fries because they were previously an English colony and they call them chips. Having never heard of a French fry, they were entirely willing to believe we called them freedom fries. It was fun.
 
fmw said:
No, I want to return to the American experiment. It worked.
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You posted this. " Let us return to a union of states."

That experiment failed before the country was 5 years old.
 
mrjurrs said:
You posted this. " Let us return to a union of states."

That experiment failed before the country was 5 years old.
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No it didn't. The federal government overpowered the states. A union of states never had a chance.
 
fmw said:
No it didn't. The federal government overpowered the states. A union of states never had a chance.
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Texit. That'd be fun.
 
fmw said:
No it didn't. The federal government overpowered the states. A union of states never had a chance.
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Massive fail...
Please check out the history of the Articles of Confederation.
 
mrjurrs said:
Massive fail...
Please check out the history of the Articles of Confederation.
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The articles of confederation are nothing. It is the constitution that guides federal government.
 
fmw said:
The articles of confederation are nothing. It is the constitution that guides federal government.
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You are right. When did the Revolutionary War end? 9.3.83
When was the Constitution ratified? 6.21.88

Get back to me when you've learned about the 5 year period between the two...
 
mrjurrs said:
You are right. When did the Revolutionary War end? 9.3.83
When was the Constitution ratified? 6.21.88

Get back to me when you've learned about the 5 year period between the two...
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It doesn't appear you need a history lesson. I certainly don't.
 
fmw said:
It doesn't appear you need a history lesson. I certainly don't.
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Then why do your posts ignore the "Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union"?
 
mrjurrs said:
Then why do your posts ignore the "Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union"?
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I already answered that. No need to repeat myself.
 
fmw said:
We don't agree on a definition of inflation.
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You both agree, he just isn't smart enough to comprehend that his table of inflation rates supports everything you posted. I bought my 1968 Ford Fairlane brand new for $2400, but I was also only earning $1.68/hour at the time. Gasoline was also only $0.25/gallon, as was a pack of cigarettes. My parents had just bought a new 4-bedroom home in 1968 for $12,500 in Fremont, Nebraska.

As a result of a glut of US dollars in Europe, due to the Marshall Plan in the 1960s, the value of the dollar began dropping. That is when Nixon took the US off the Silver Standard in 1969. Combine that with the out of control congressional spending on LBJ's "War on Poverty" and "Great Society" and it was the perfect formula for run-away inflation. Then OPEC formed in 1973 and there was an oil embargo, which exacerbated everything. By 1980 the interest rate on a long-term 30-year mortgage had reached 18%, and gasoline prices had quadrupled.

Prices have indeed increased by more than ten fold since the 1960s, and it is directly the result of excessive, and often unconstitutional, government spending.
 
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fmw said:
I already answered that. No need to repeat myself.
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Repetition will help you cement your misunderstanding. Nothing can be done about willful ignorance.
 
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