Ok, now let's see what happens to fast food restaurants in Commiefornia

[Individual]

Companies exploit the fact that taxpayers will pick up the tab.

The cruel way to fix the problem would be to let Walmart and McDonalds employees go hungry, and without medical care and become homeless. Then they would force the issue......or the US would become third world.

A far better solution would be to either require companies pay what their labor force actually costs instead of relying on taxpayers to pick up the tab.

One way to do that would be to penalize companies for every dime taxpayers spend subsidizing their labor force,

There is no reason taxpayers should be subsidizing these companies proffits.

I agree totally with the emboldened. But then what would politicians have to offer to gain votes?

 

[fmw]

There is zero reason that we taxpayers should be on the hook for subsidizing the proffits of these highly profitable private companies.

At least you got that right.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Well put. The illiteracy of fundamental economics presented so often in these forums is simply astounding and a stain on the education system.

Perhaps the education system should cease it's leftist / Marxist / Progressive indoctrination and get back to their job of education?

Yep - if the CEO of Walmart is making $18M/year then they would be ‘exploiting’ each and every lower level Walmart associate (employee) out of $9/year.

The fact that a given employee qualifies for “safety net” assistance after working X hours/week for $Y/hour is not the fault of their employer.

Another ‘issue’ is that if an employee’s “safety net” benefits are reduced by $1 for every $2 of additional ‘earned’ income then they would be effectively working for 1/2 of their nominal wage - which is not the fault of their employer.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Companies exploit the fact that taxpayers will pick up the tab.

The cruel way to fix the problem would be to let Walmart and McDonalds employees go hungry, and without medical care and become homeless. Then they would force the issue......or the US would become third world.

A far better solution would be to either require companies pay what their labor force actually costs instead of relying on taxpayers to pick up the tab.

One way to do that would be to penalize companies for every dime taxpayers spend subsidizing their labor force,

There is no reason taxpayers should be subsidizing these companies proffits.

The ‘subsidy’ (which you cite) is not paid to every ‘low wage’ worker and is dependent on other factors over which their employer has no control. As I noted before, if an employer would be penalized for hiring folks who would qualify for “safety net” assistance then they would be foolish to employ them.

With no increase in the mandated federal (or state) MW level, larger employers are already raising their own MW (entry level worker pay) levels.

Big Companies Are Raising Wages for Lowest-Paid Workers

As they struggle to find workers amid an ongoing labor shortage, more companies are raising minimum wage rates for their lowest-paid employees, boosting pay for hourly-wage jobs to levels never seen before.

www.shrm.org

What you fail to see (accept?) is that ‘large’ employers are already offering more pay (and benefits) for the same lower (or entry) level positions, while ‘small’ (mom & pop) businesses simply can’t afford to do so.

The idea that the tax code (or MW laws) should require ‘large’ employers to pay even more would only hurt ‘small’ employers who would then find it nearly impossible to attract and retain qualified labor.

 

[mrjurrs]

The OP is definitely about a state issue. Cost of living (especially housing cost) varies greatly with the US.

https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/dallas-tx/los-angeles-ca/65000

Moving From California To Texas: Costs And Benefits Guide

Get expert advice on improvements to your home, including design tips, how much you'd expect to pay for a pro and what to ask when hiring experts.

www.forbes.com

There is no state of Commiefornia. Bet that source doesn't encourage women of child bearing years.

Nice deflection though, I was responding to you suggesting CA raise the minimum wage.

 

[mrjurrs]

Move it out of federal government.

How?

 

[RealityNow]

Well put. The illiteracy of fundamental economics presented so often in these forums is simply astounding and a stain on the education system.

Perhaps the education system should cease it's leftist / Marxist / Progressive indoctrination and get back to their job of education?

What really is at issue is what people don't want to say, and some don't know enough about history to say.

The fight against Minimum Wage Improvement, is PURELY BASED WITHIN "CONFEDERACY IDEOLOGY".

Many of the current low pay jobs... are still based on the Ideology of past history, they were and are jobs that was done by slaves or former slaves, and dire poor whites and indentured servants.

Every low paying job is necessary, or it would not exist as a job. As many have said, without employees, business would cease, and wealth gathering of the wealthy would fall like a bolder, proped up by a toothpick.

American General White Society who supported slavery for 300+ yrs of Slavery also, had descendents that supported 100 yrs of Segregation.. This is the backbone of the history of "Low Wages".
It was based within the concept of "Inequality", and structured under Confederate disregard for compensation or fair compensation for anyone, who did jobs that were once done by slaves, and by indentured poor whites. Yet, even within the Confederacy, it could not function without those jobs being done, nor could they gather wealth without those jobs being done. This Confederate Ideology is at the core of "Economic Inequality".

These white people who oppose increase of minimum wages, are the descendents that were raised within and through the Ideology of Confederate Agenda and its Ideals, that was determined to keep "Inequity" alive and well within and among blacks and poor whites. It was the Confederate Ideals of keeping wealthy in the hands of the select few, who Ruled and Orchestrated The Economic Machine of The Confederacy, Those were the Land Owners, Plantation Owners, The Mill Owners, The Merchant Owners and The Politicians They Controlled. They considered themselves as THE PLUTOCRATS, AND THROUGH THE CONTROL of Politicians, they were the Autocrats.

American people don't know enough of History even about their own white history, that borne the ideals of the Right Winger Society. Mostly, within these forums is a bunch of older white men and some older white women, who were raised within and through the era of JIM Crow Ideology, throughout their youth, they were born and bred with that bias, bigotry, social, civic and economic inequality as the basis of their White Nationalist Cultural Ideals, of Wealthy White Male Dominance which is at the core of their White Supremacist Ideology. They were raised with the agenda of the wealthy controlling the politics with white male dominance throughout the Political Right... Today, its OVERTLY VISIBLE within the Right Wing Republicanism System.

They hijacked the Republican Party, to keep the people confused and off balance, because EVERYTHING that TODAY'S REPUBLICANS is exactly the same thing that was once the Principles, Ideals and Agenda of The Confederate Democrats who became the Dixiecrat Democrats who sprang up after the Civil War,from their PREVIOUS history as Pro Slavery Confederate Democrats.

In 1964 under Barry Goldwater, he set a path to push Republicans to adopt as much of the former Dixiecrat Democrat Ideology of Segregationist Ideology, and by 1969, Richard Nixon within his Southern Stragety, appealed to the Southern Racism to garner votes.. After the Republican passed the 1964, Civil Rights Act, for the Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson. Dixiecrats Democrats became obesssed with taking over the Republican Party, with hope to roll back Civil Rights.
But... what Former Dixiecrats who sought to take of Republicanism, to confuse the people, did not count on was that the Democrats would take up the cause and purpose of Civic and Civil Rights, for blacks, other non whites, immigrants and women. The Democratic Party became the Party of "Civic and Civil Liberties" for "All American Citizens".

Many white people did not understand any of the Flip or the Agenda behind the Flip, because they were too busy trying to avoid discussing the details of Racism. They continued to rely on Racist and Segregationist white men, to give them the priviledges based on their white skin, at the expense of non whites and women.
Still today, there are many many white people, who don't know Political and Racial History in America... they only know the benefits they gained from White Nationalism.

 

[RealityNow]

Continued from Post #232

Many of the working poor whites and the poor whites who are in the latter stages of their lives and some retired, still don't understand how and why they are at this advanced stages of their lives, with some barely able to make it, and some eagerly and deceptively denying the fact they could not make it without varying forms of public assistance.

Some have gotten older and can't fathom what the hell happen, as to why they reached retirement age and they have so little. "Truth, they never learned the history to know how to discern what is Confederacy Agenda and what is United State of American Democracy Agenda. Some still don't grasp the difference.

Confederacy Agenda was/is about Keeping The Wealth in The Hands of The Wealthy !!!! ​

• Low Wage, Heavy Labor and No Benefits and No Services. ​

Vs
The United States of American Democracy Agenda, is about Equality of Person, as Individual and Equitable Opportunity For Any!!!​

• Fair and Equitable Compensation for Mankinds Labor, Benefits to The Workers, and Services for those who Need Help and Assistance. ​

_____________________

Many of the Right Wingers grew up with an ideology that "all benefit and gain" was to go to "white man first and foremost" and minimual benefit and gain to black man, non white men, immigrant men, poor whites and women.

• We still see it, the sneers and side eyed look by right wing white men, at black men, non white men, immigrant men, poor whites and women, within the workplace.
• We still see it, through pay defeciencies by right wing white men, who regard certain jobs, as being low pay jobs for black men, non white men, immigrant men, poor whites and women, within the workplace.
• We still see it, by and through the fight against minimum wage increase by right wing white men, at black men, non white men, immigrant men, poor whites and women, within the workplace.
• We still see it, in the fight against Union Wage and Benefits by right wing white men, to deny the benefits and equity for labor unto black men, non white men, immigrant men, poor whites and women, within the workplace.

Many of the older right wing white men and women, especially those who grew up under the indoctrination of segregationist ideology, who engage these forums will try to deny these factors but their actions over many decades and generations have proven what they can't deny.

 

[NolanVoyd]

The ‘subsidy’ (which you cite) is not paid to every ‘low wage’ worker and is dependent on other factors over which their employer has no control. As I noted before, if an employer would be penalized for hiring folks who would qualify for “safety net” assistance then they would be foolish to employ them.

With no increase in the mandated federal (or state) MW level, larger employers are already raising their own MW (entry level worker pay) levels.

Big Companies Are Raising Wages for Lowest-Paid Workers

As they struggle to find workers amid an ongoing labor shortage, more companies are raising minimum wage rates for their lowest-paid employees, boosting pay for hourly-wage jobs to levels never seen before.

www.shrm.org

What you fail to see (accept?) is that ‘large’ employers are already offering more pay (and benefits) for the same lower (or entry) level positions, while ‘small’ (mom & pop) businesses simply can’t afford to do so.

The idea that the tax code (or MW laws) should require ‘large’ employers to pay even more would only hurt ‘small’ employers who would then find it nearly impossible to attract and retain qualified labor.

I agree that there are gray areas, somone with a large family, vs a single person, etc. Those details can be worked out.

As far as mom and pops go, or large employers for that matter. If their business plan requires them to pay a sub living wage in order to make a profit, if they must rely on tax payers supporting their labor to make it, then their business plan is a poor one and they should try something different.

Bottom line, private companies have no business relying on tax payers subsidizing their labor force in order to make private proffits.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I agree that there are gray areas, somone with a large family, vs a single person, etc. Those details can be worked out.

As far as mom and pops go, or large employers for that matter. If their business plan requires them to pay a sub living wage in order to make a profit, if they must rely on tax payers supporting their labor to make it, then their business plan is a poor one and they should try something different.

Bottom line, private companies have no business relying on tax payers subsidizing their labor force in order to make private proffits.

That nonsense assumes that the MW becomes some sort of “living wage” (easy to say, yet very hard to define - especially at the federal level) and that all jobs are full-time. All that would do is make imports (and automation) even more appealing (aka profitable).

Under a (MW?) system where a (any?) single, entry level (full-time) job is capable of comfortably supporting a multi-person household the costs of US goods and services would rise leaving those on fixed incomes in dire straits. After all, the average Social Security ‘supplemental’ retirement pension is far below what anyone would consider to be a “living wage”.

The average Social Security check increased this year due to inflation: Here's how much it is

With record-high inflation, Social Security benefits increased nearly 6% from last year.

www.cnbc.com

Monthly Statistical Snapshot, January 2025

Social Security Administration Research, Statistics, and Policy Analysis

www.ssa.gov

 

[NolanVoyd]

That nonsense assumes that the MW becomes some sort of “living wage” (easy to say, yet very hard to define - especially at the federal level)

It should be defined regionally, based on cost of living among other things.

and that all jobs are full-time. All that would do is make imports (and automation) even more appealing (aka profitable).

Under a (MW?) system where a (any?) single, entry level (full-time) job is capable of comfortably supporting a multi-person household the costs of US goods and services would rise leaving those on fixed incomes in dire straits. After all, the average Social Security ‘supplemental’ retirement pension is far below what anyone would consider to be a “living wage”.

The average Social Security check increased this year due to inflation: Here's how much it is

With record-high inflation, Social Security benefits increased nearly 6% from last year.

www.cnbc.com

Monthly Statistical Snapshot, January 2025

Social Security Administration Research, Statistics, and Policy Analysis

www.ssa.gov

You know the jobs you call entry level are often not right? An inevitable result of our service sector heavy economy.

Next time you are in a Walmart look at who is working there.

 

[fmw]

How?

Give it to the states. Social programs work against the concept of equality. Federal government should not engage in programs that do not treat citizens equally. Those programs don't belong in federal government.

 

[mrjurrs]

Give it to the states. Social programs work against the concept of equality. Federal government should not engage in programs that do not treat citizens equally. Those programs don't belong in federal government.

The government treats people differently all the time.

Where are the states going to get the money?

 

[RealityNow]

I agree that there are gray areas, somone with a large family, vs a single person, etc. Those details can be worked out.

As far as mom and pops go, or large employers for that matter. If their business plan requires them to pay a sub living wage in order to make a profit, if they must rely on tax payers supporting their labor to make it, then their business plan is a poor one and they should try something different.

Bottom line, private companies have no business relying on tax payers subsidizing their labor force in order to make private proffits.

This is a fact....

It's insane that the people who are always "crying about my taxes" are the same people who support employer's relying on Tax Payers to cover the basic necessities and basic standards so employers can walk away with get rich quick profits, while their workers can barely make it.

It's based on the history of wealthy white men, controlling politicians, and hating to pay taxes, so if they pay taxes, they don't want the government to make decisions about its usage, so they under pay the workers, which in their theory is tanamount to not paying taxes, becasue they make sure any tax paid, will be consumed to compensate the workers, what they would not pay the worker in the first place. In their ideology, it equates to "getting back any taxes paid" for the fact they are labor providers.
They (Confederate Ideologist) devised "A MILLION" ways to screw over the government, because White Men born and groomed into and under Confederate Ideolist saw themselves as the only authority as the plutocrats who could do as they want, when ever and how ever and any attempt by the government to establish taxes and regulations would meet with their devise to circumvent it by any means they can.

 

[RealityNow]

Continued from Post # 239

People simply have to realize, when the Confederacy attacked the U.S. Government and America Democracy, they were determined to defeat it by any and many ways as they could. The 10's and 100's of thousands of lives lost in that pursuit, is indication and fact, they care nothing about the common man, they care about their "wealth" and they will sacrifice the working and poor white man and any other man any way they can, to protect their pursuit of wealthy by any means.

The white people who try their best not to understand this, are the same white people who are generationally poor, and at the current ideology of Right Wing Conservatism (Confederacy Ideology) they will be poor for the next generation and the next generations. Because, the ideology of Confederacy was based on a plan of "Forever Wealth For The Wealthy" By Any Means." !!!

A generational society of mis-educated and uneducated white people, never thought to challenge what they were taught, most to this day, don't even know that the Daughter of Confederacy had a great and impactful influence upon what was put into school books and history books... to ensure "their confederacy way of ideals would continue"... These are the same Daughters of Confederacy who went across the country buillding Monument and Statues to convey that point.

working poor and poor whites were too under-educated to understand, those monuments and symbols, was always symbolism to infer that working poor and poor whites would remain forever the class of working poor and poor whites, forever.

Still to this date, white people try to deny it, they run from such truth, because they are deluded that their skin will give them reprieve... when their own history tells that they are cast into the ranks of the working poor and the dire poor, and based on Modern Day Republican (Confederacy) Ideology, they are to remain being generationally poor.

Modern Day Republicans make that known, as they fight against Minimum Wage Hike, They Fight Against Universal Health Care, They Fight Against Unions to ensure workes don't have the power of collectives voice, and they use every means and too of Gerrymandering and Right Wing Media, to keep the Right Wing white people caught up in "daily drama antics", to ensure they are fed something to be aggrieved about, to keep them from seeing the truths of what is being done to them by the same Right Wing Republicans whose determination is to keep them as members of the under-calls, economically, civically, and socially.

They use these working poor whites and poor whites, as "Pawns and Fodder" to protect the wealthy of the wealthy, exactly as the Confederacy used all the working poor and dire poor to run to the battle field and give their lives to protect the same wealthy who was and is determined to keep them as the underclass, low wage, working poor and dire poor.
Keep them working poor and under-educated and they become generational "guardians of the wealthy". Even in this 21st Century, these type of white people have never figured it out... and can't see it is the very reasons they remain "generationally poor", generationally, "under-educated" and generationally Mis'educated>
Today, the Confederacy Ideology is still trying to ban books, hide history's truth and anything it can to ensure that working poor and poor whites, don't learn and understand the real truth.

 

[ttwtt78640]

It should be defined regionally, based on cost of living among other things.

OK, then do so. Many (if not most) states have already established a higher (the federal) MW.

You know the jobs you call entry level are often not right? An inevitable result of our service sector heavy economy.

That does not mean that promotion (or getting trained/educated) for a better job/position is no longer possible.

Next time you are in a Walmart look at who is working there.

OK, but ask them how much “safety net” (or entitlement) assistance they are getting. The idea that other (household) income is not important is often ignored. The fact remains that larger employers offer better pay and benefits than smaller employers do - who quite often can’t afford to do so. Meanwhile, Biden is flodding the country with millions (more) ‘undocumented’ folks willing to work for very low wages.

 

[RealityNow]

Continued from Post # 239
(content removed for space)

The truth of "Confederacy Agenda, under Right Wing Republicanism.... was and is exampled in another thread,

As A Right Wing Conservative Participating in this Forum ... Responded without even reading the linked information, and when questioned as to reading it. They acknowledged they did not... yet, they talked just to be talking.

It's a technique they were taught to avoid the truth, because the discomfort that arises within them when they are confronted with "truth".

• It shakes at their core, because they can't bear the thought to realize they have been gullible to be misled and misguided. It's more than they can handle. To come to face the fact they have been their own worst enemy.

Some will go to their grave, fighting to avoid what their lives reflect... which is a history of being generation-ally poor and having no means to understand why.
They can't fathom to face the real truth... of how they were used by their own willingness to buy into the ideology that kept them being used.

There's millions upon millions of them, still fighting against realizing such truth.

quote
The white people who try their best not to understand this, are the same white people who are generationally poor, and at the current ideology of Right Wing Conservatism (Confederacy Ideology) they will be poor for the next generation and the next generations. Because, the ideology of Confederacy was based on a plan of "Forever Wealth For The Wealthy" By Any Means." !!!

A generational society of mis-educated and uneducated white people, never thought to challenge what they were taught, most to this day, don't even know that the Daughter of Confederacy had a great and impactful influence upon what was put into school books and history books... to ensure "their confederacy way of ideals would continue"... These are the same Daughters of Confederacy who went across the country buillding Monument and Statues to convey that point.

• Working poor and poor whites were too under-educated to understand, those monuments and symbols, was always symbolism to infer that working poor and poor whites would remain forever the class of working poor and poor whites, forever; the exact same as they expected to keep blacks as economically, socially and civically disenfranchised forever.

Still to this date, white people try to deny it, they run from such truth, because they are deluded that their skin will give them reprieve... when their own history tells that they are cast into the ranks of the working poor and the dire poor, and based on Modern Day Republican (Confederacy) Ideology, they are to remain being generationally poor.
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It's truly a sad tragedy, that even in this day and time... there are millions upon millions of white people, who never tried to learn any of this. Educated black people who found their way to freedom a century plus decades ago, learned and understood this clearly, and tried by every means to help working poor and poor whites learn and understand.
The Liberal Anti-Slavery whites understood exactly what was happening, and they were strong supporters of blacks in the Anti-Slavery advancements, but poor whites were unwilling to listen and learn from those who understood what was being done to people, both black and white.

Today, there are white people who still hold fast to the Confederacy Idealism's Indoctrinations they were fed throughout their lives, and they can't fathom to open their eyes or their minds.
Today... they are taught to fight against having their minds "awakened and made aware'.... and to some they think its cliche' to push the attack under the ignorance of their interpertation of "woke"...
When the basics of the word means, "Awakened".

The Wealthy with the Confederate Grooming of "Wealthy for The Wealthy Forever" will do all they can to keep the minds of these type of white people under the influences of Right Wingt (Confederacy Idealism) as mentally and educationally inept and self blinded by their minds being made to remain "asleep".

 

[NolanVoyd]

OK, then do so. Many (if not most) states have already established a higher (the federal) MW.

Companies should be fined to recoup every dollar tax payers spend subsidizing their labor force

That does not mean that promotion (or getting trained/educated) for a better job/position is no longer possible.

Who said it wasn't possible?

Some people do that but it doesn't change the fact that a large percentage of the jobs remain low wage.

My advice to an individual would be to get trained and get a better job........but if everyone did that who would work at Walmart and do the grunt work?

OK, but ask them how much “safety net” (or entitlement) assistance they are getting. The idea that other (household) income is not important is often ignored. The fact remains that larger employers offer better pay and benefits than smaller employers do - who quite often can’t afford to do so. Meanwhile, Biden is flodding the country with millions (more) ‘undocumented’ folks willing to work for very low wages.

70% of Walmart employees qualify for taxpayer assistance while the company is one of the most profitable in the country.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Companies should be fined to recoup every dollar tax payers spend subsidizing their labor force

Employers don’t have the ability to control who gets elected to congress.

Who said it wasn't possible?

Nobody.

Some people do that but it doesn't change the fact that a large percentage of the jobs remain low wage.

My advice to an individual would be to get trained and get a better job........but if everyone did that who would work at Walmart and do the grunt work?

You seem to ignore the fact that the same people do not remain in those (same) entry level positions. About 1.5M people turn 18 annually. About 10K “boomers” are turning 65 daily (or 3.65M/year).

70% of Walmart employees qualify for taxpayer assistance while the company is one of the most profitable in the country.

Can you supply some (linked) citation to support that (bolded above) assertion?

What is your basis for declaring Walmart (a discount retailer) to be one the most profitable corporations in the country? Do not confuse the amount of gross (or net) revenue with a profit margin (actual return on investment).

Why Do Progressives Hate Walmart for Low Prices and Its 3% Profit Margin but Love High-priced Apple and Its 24% Profit Margin?

Evil Walmart makes a lot of money, right? We hear that all the time even though the retail giant’s profit margin was only 3.12% in the most recent quarter. Interestingly, we never seem to hear as much about the much higher profit margin of Apple, the “darling of the progressives.” In the most...

www.aei.org

Walmart Profit Margin | (NYSE:WMT)

Walmart Profit Margin is currently at 0.02%. Profit Margin measures overall efficiency of Walmart and shows its ability to withstand competition as well as defend against adverse conditions such as rising costs, falling prices, decline in sales or management distress. Profit margin tells...

www.macroaxis.com

 

[ecofarm]

Come to think of it, liberals hate fast food restaurants. It's greasy and corporate. So telling liberals, "look, you are gonna destroy the fast food market" is cheerleading for them.

 

[longview]

Come to think of it, liberals hate fast food restaurants. It's greasy and corporate. So telling liberals, "look, you are gonna destroy the fast food market" is cheerleading for them.

So the California Government is attempting to eliminate an entire industry in the name of helping the low end workers?
Perhaps it is just a way to increase the number of people who depend on government?

 

[ecofarm]

So the California Government is attempting to eliminate an entire industry in the name of helping the low end workers?
Perhaps it is just a way to increase the number of people who depend on government?

Other jobs will exist, presumably. I'm not interested in the minutiae. I know liberals hate fast food restaurants. So if you tell them their policy is gonna destroy those restaurants then they will be happy.

 

[Mr Person]

Here's a website that shows how much a McD's Big Mac costs by state (November 2021): https://www.zippia.com/advice/how-much-big-mac-costs-states/

California: $5.11
Florida: $4.47
Maryland: $5.03
Pennsylvania: $4.47
Texas: $4.39

Why not look at McDonald's prices in European countries with similar wage requirements (and higher taxes)? It's not like someone looking to conduct an honest analysis has nowhere to look.

At any rate, completely independent of the benefits of requiring companies to pay survivable wages rather than just making up for poverty-pay with our tax dollars, it'd be a good thing in its own right for fast food prices to go way up. They won't, but it would be a good thing. America is eating itself to death and rather than collectively work our ways back to eating actual food, people seem to have just sorta decided to take the whole "don't be a complete asshole lout by going around calling people 'fat'" and turned it into "this is fine, no problems here!"

 

[longview]

Other jobs will exist, presumably. I'm not interested in the minutiae. I know liberals hate fast food restaurants. So if you tell them their policy is gonna destroy those restaurants then they will be happy.

I am still concerned that when the wage is set too high by fiat, Employers will want more experience from the people starting.
There is also the aspect of someone who has worked in a business for a decade, and is finally up to say $15 a hour,
and then everyone including the new hires are moved up to $22 and hour.
Does the person with a decade of experience deserve more than the new hires?

 

[longview]

Why not look at McDonald's prices in European countries with similar wage requirements (and higher taxes)? It's not like someone looking to conduct an honest analysis has nowhere to look.

At any rate, completely independent of the benefits of requiring companies to pay survivable wages rather than just making up for poverty-pay with our tax dollars, it'd be a good thing in its own right for fast food prices to go way up. They won't, but it would be a good thing. America is eating itself to death and rather than collectively work our ways back to eating actual food, people seem to have just sorta decided to take the whole "don't be a complete asshole lout by going around calling people 'fat'" and turned it into "this is fine, no problems here!"

I just looked and a Big Mac in Seattle is $6.39, where the minimum is $15 an hour.
Why a Big Mac costs more in Seattle than in Austin