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Depends on what you call worse. Cost is but half the equation. Paying more for more is better than paying more for less, which is where we are now. Though, before all is said and done, this may not actually cost more. We'll have to see what goes on from here.
That is honestly the worst rebuttal to an argument I've ever heard. That might convince one of your children, but on a debate politics forum you're going to have to actual provide an educated rebuttal with some sources. Please list exactly what insurance companies are doing to "correct it", explain why a business would do anything that doesn't profit the company monetarily, and why their measures to correct the problem would be more effective than "Obamacare" in getting health care for children with preexisting conditions, making sure patience with terminal illnesses such as cancer can't get dropped from their plans.
Obama care will create a doctor shortage so things like MRI may take months to get. Then if Obama cuts medicare pay to doctors they will no longer accept it.
To give a tax break to the very wealthy is the DUMBEST thing this Country could do. Its like a Socialist handout! More of the Conservative Socialist crap they bash the OTHER side for. And how about those Socialist ear marks fropm the COnservatives?????
The majority of Conservatives are dishonerable liars that provide government handouts to the very wealthy.... the ones that generally DONT pay much around tax time because they hide their money or can AFFORD great tax guys they get them a refund. Dont tell me Im wrong! Ive seen it for OVER 20 F-in YEARS!!! Lying to the government or just not telling them about CERTAIN things. They are as bad as people on welfare!
They bitch.... GIVE ME! GIVE ME! More tax breaks! More business write-offs! Sure I already make $145,000 after taxes but I STILL WANT MORE!!!! GIVE ME! GIVE ME!
I vote for people that will give ME the sweet deals!! I know the Republicans will give me what I want! The Lobbyists will boost MY stock profile! The gov't will do things to make ME money!! But since I have lots of money and have a high paying job its NOT called Socialism..... I'll call it economic relief (from the gov't)!!!
Conservatives are Socialist. They want free stuff too!
Obama care will create a doctor shortage so things like MRI may take months to get. Then if Obama cuts medicare pay to doctors they will no longer accept it.
Obama care will create a doctor shortage so things like MRI may take months to get. Then if Obama cuts medicare pay to doctors they will no longer accept it.
Have you heard the Apocalypse is soon coming? Make sure your bomb shelter is ready for use. You'll need it soon.
All that is pure propaganda. I don't know about you but I don't want my children denied because they have pre-existing conditions. I don't want the insurance companies to wiggle out of coverage because of some fine print they conveniently forgot to mention. I don't want my kids in college to have pay through the nose for separate health insurance.
LOOK folks..... I dont want universal healthcare!
But you Conserva-haters (copyrighted name) are like little girls running around screaming the sky is falling..... and BECAUSE ya'll are so frightened YOU may not get the same care you then.... like little girls start speading lies on the playground.
I just feel like its a total cry-baby bitch fest. Conservatives need to GROW A PAIR and man up.
Look the Canadian system works VERY well.... I have friends and family up there and they have had ZERO problem with the ER.... short-term and/or long-term care!
But I personally dont like MORE government unlike Republicans and Democrats.
Compromise to a radical liberal like Obama always means dropping your opposition, and seeing things his way.
j-mac
Are you paying attention? Obama has compromised his position to the point he looks weak. The guy has had all the cards, yet continues to play like he has a weak hand. If Obama would have had 1/2 of the Bush swagger, he would not have lost the house and still have his job approval well north of 50%. Sorry, Obama;s idea of compromise is to fold.
Obama care will create a doctor shortage so things like MRI may take months to get. Then if Obama cuts medicare pay to doctors they will no longer accept it.
Obama has not folded on anything, he has locked out the GOP and rammed his agenda forward. He no longer can do that since he lost his senate fillibuster proof majority and the house.
Actually, the doctor shortage is artificial. And Obama's plan has in it some incentives to increase the number of doctors.
Seriously? Do you read what you write?
Either the shortage is real or Obama is wasting everyone's time and money with unnecessary incentives.
Which is it?
DOCTORS OPT OUT OF MEDICARE: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/business/retirementspecial/02health.html
Actually, the doctor shortage is artificial. And Obama's plan has in it some incentives to increase the number of doctors.
That would not be entirely true. We don't have a public option, and the mandate was a republican idea he adopted. There are others. So, while at one point the republicans were locked out, having shown no real interest in working on this, it would not be true that concessions weren't made.
Now I understand your point about government involvement.
Yes, I can see it all clearly now.
You spend more then any other country on Health Care, and get worse results...
Who's sustainable?
(aren't you guys almost fully bankrupt?)
Clever, who is that little disingenuous graph from? The UN and its skewed report? yeah ok, go socialism on a global scale! Right?
j-mac
It is true Obama got what he wanted and it is a bad bill
No, he didn't. He wanted a public option. What we ahve is the compromise.
LA: Is there an area here in the United States in which we have not been as aggressive as we should in promoting property rights and free markets?
MF: Yes, in the field of medical care. We have a socialist-communist system of distributing medical care...
Hillsdale College - Imprimis Issue
The House voted 219 to 212 to approve the measure, with every Republican voting no.
The 34 Democratic defectors...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/21/AR2010032100943.html
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