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Obama orders review of Russian election-related hacking

poweRob said:
Talk about ignoring facts to meet hackish ends. I guess you must have serious beef with GOP senators McCain, McConnell and Graham then who are asking for an investigation into it.

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Let's just say it's a fact that Russia directly kacked the DNC. What shoild we do about it? Go to war? I mean, Russia didn't force the Clinton machine to pull the **** they did. Russia didn't force Donna Brazille to collude with the Clinton Camp. Russia didn't force the MSM to coordinate with the Democrats. You might not like how we found out, but we can't unknow that stuff.
 
poweRob said:
lol... You have a habit of making up meanings to words if not outright making up words... like something as stupid as "alt left". Now you are using "fake news" as a way to dismiss anything you politically disagree with regardless of facts.
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The Libbos do the same thing!...lol
 
poweRob said:
Russia tampered with our elections. That's a pretty serious attack on our government. There is bipartisan support for investigating this further so I don't know why people are acting so balse' about it except to be partisan trumpettes.
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Evidence?
 
poweRob said:
lol... You have a habit of making up meanings to words if not outright making up words... like something as stupid as "alt left". Now you are using "fake news" as a way to dismiss anything you politically disagree with regardless of facts.
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Nope, I am calling it "fake news" because it is a story driven by a desired narrative and backed with no evidence. It is nothing more than gossip that is not supported by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence OR the FBI, and the only word we have of the conclusions by the CIA come third hand from politicians and media outlets with an axe to grind.
 
jmotivator said:
Nope, I am calling it "fake news" because it is a story driven by a desired narrative and backed with no evidence. It is nothing more than gossip that is not supported by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence OR the FBI, and the only word we have of the conclusions by the CIA come third hand from politicians and media outlets with an axe to grind.
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You're calling it fake news because you don't want to believe 17 intel agencies AND evidence.
 
apdst said:
Let's just say it's a fact that Russia directly kacked the DNC. What shoild we do about it? Go to war? I mean, Russia didn't force the Clinton machine to pull the **** they did. Russia didn't force Donna Brazille to collude with the Clinton Camp. Russia didn't force the MSM to coordinate with the Democrats. You might not like how we found out, but we can't unknow that stuff.
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the left 6 months ago:

"its ridiculous to say that hillary wants war with russia. she has nothing against them"

today:

"russia hacked the election and thats why i lost. time for war"
 
poweRob said:
I'm taking my lead from three GOP senators, evidence and the vast bulk of our intelligence agencies.


The fact that you don't and choose to ignore them in favor of swallowing anything trump gives you... that comes as no surprise.
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Your evidence if funny because it includes in it's 17 offices the Office of the Director of National Intelligence which, as you should know by now, actually represents the other 16 departments listed and is on record as not supporting the CIA conclusion.

You are using old, busted, arguments.
 
apdst said:
Are you claiming the CIA is spot on?
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I didn't claim that. YOU tried to say I was claiming that. Again, either address what I ACTUALLY said or bugger off.
 
poweRob said:
You're calling it fake news because you don't want to believe 17 intel agencies AND evidence.
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No, I am calling it fake news because there is no evidence of the Russians hacking US servers in an effort to bend the election in favor of Trump, because the evidence doesn't exist. The only evidence of an anti-Hillary bent in the whole leak fiasco is the public admission by Assange that he chose to release the emails of the DNC and Podesta because he felt that Hillary Clinton was a threat to free speech in general and to Wikileaks specifically.

Simple logic would also show that it wold be foolish for the Russians to oppose Hillary when she has already been shown to be a dunce in international politics, and if the Russian government WAS in possession of these emails they would have been more valuable as blackmail against a Clinton presidency than as ammunition to support Trump.

I mean think about that for a second: Right up until around Midnight on election day the vast majority of the intelligentsia believed that Hillary had a 95+% chance of being the next president of the United States... why blow their advantage over the assured Clinton presidency in favor of Trump who nobody thought could possibly win? The now debunked theory of hacked voting machines had a more logical foundation than this email motivation nonsense.
 
Praxas said:
I didn't claim that. YOU tried to say I was claiming that. Again, either address what I ACTUALLY said or bugger off.
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I asked a question. You're obviously refusing to answer.
 
jmotivator said:
Your evidence if funny because it includes in it's 17 offices the Office of the Director of National Intelligence which, as you should know by now, actually represents the other 16 departments listed and is on record as not supporting the CIA conclusion.

You are using old, busted, arguments.
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Trump was right. He could shoot someone on 5th avenue and his sheep will still drop to their knees and worship him.
 
poweRob said:
Trump was right. He could shoot someone on 5th avenue and his sheep will still drop to their knees and worship him.
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Don't be jealous... the left had 8 years of the same thing.
 
poweRob said:
Trump was right. He could shoot someone on 5th avenue and his sheep will still drop to their knees and worship him.
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Nope. But Democrats could start a rumor with no evidence that Trump shot someone on Fifth Avenue and most people would realize it was nonsense. Your problem is you are one of those desperate people who need to believe in boogeymen in order to assuage your pain of a Hillary loss and justify your confidence in her campaign...
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Read more @: Obama orders review of Russian election-related hacking

Well its going to very interesting to see what is publicly going to be released from this investigation.. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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For all that are reading - Barack Obama is not willing to let this go. I said this from months ago and before Trump won (along with that he would win - even though I got a lot of nasty comments about my prediction), but he's up to something. I hope that all Americans see what he is trying to do. You would be besides yourself if he did this in a Hillary win and so at people - we need to take the moral high road and admit that he's not doing the right thing for the American people.

He's the biggest fraud and destroyer of American Values. He doesn't care anything about this country or the people within. Those who continue to look away are doing so at their own peril. I promise you he is up to no good.
 
poweRob said:
Trump was right. He could shoot someone on 5th avenue and his sheep will still drop to their knees and worship him.
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Why not ask yourself what Barack Obama has been doing these past eight years if it is so easy for one country to "tamper" with our elections. And by the way, what do you mean tamper? You mean like the reporter who fed the debate questions to Hillary in advance? Or the Clinton campaign who set up bad people at Trump rallies to cause trouble? Or the DNC who pretty much did anything and everything to make sure Bernie Sanders didn't win? Where's the investigation by Barack Obama and the DOJ into these kinds of tactics?
 
poweRob said:
Evidence... that you will no doubt ignore.
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Soros bands with donors to resist Trump, 'take back power'

Major liberal funders huddle behind closed doors with Pelosi, Warren, Ellison, and union bosses to lick wounds, retrench.

Soros bands with donors to resist Trump, 'take back power' - POLITICO

First comes millions in donations to fund recounts. Then comes the allegations of Russians intervening (amped up from the 6 months prior). Gosh...its almost like its a coordinated effort.
 
poweRob said:
lol... You have a habit of making up meanings to words if not outright making up words... like something as stupid as "alt left". Now you are using "fake news" as a way to dismiss anything you politically disagree with regardless of facts.
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poweRob said:
Evidence...
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That is evidence of nothing, and Fancy Bear is one silly damn name for the "bad guy" who supposedly put the run in Hillary's stocking.

If I were a Russian hacker, Fancy Bear is a handle I would not choose. Given the relationship between anything Bear and Russia, that would be a bad name to choose for such an operation. It would be a dead giveaway, IMO.

OTOH, if I were working for the CIA or somebody else looking to blame the Russians, anything with "bear" in it would be a plausible "connection" to Russia. Sorry, that's how I see it. Mr. Binney formerly of NSA surmises it was an inside the beltway job, and I'm going with him.
 
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