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Obama: A year to Election Day, numbers good and bad

donc said:
So who do you think will be Obamas opponent next Nov?The only one of the current crop that i would vote for is Huntsman.

Cain?Wow, whata boob. Perry?Might have a chance if he can get his IQ up to double digits. Newt?Nothing like coffee warmed over...twice.Bachman/Ron Paul/Santorum/ all a big MEH.

The only one left standing will be Mittens and that means a lotta wingers will be home setting on their hands next November...Get your Tux pressed i might get you an invite to the inauguration and victory party.:2wave:
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1. Gingrich.
2. Cain
3. Bachmann
4. Santorum
 
donc said:
HARK!!! were onna roll.

< Instant view: Jobless claims fall 10,000 in latest week>

<(Reuters) - New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits declined for the second straight week, to the lowest level since the first week of April, the Labor Department said on Thursday.\ >

<The U.S. trade deficit unexpectedly shrank in September to its narrowest level since December on record-high exports, while the flow of imports from China slowed.>

That plus the fact that fright hauled by truck has increased for the last there months.Better book them Bahama flights tonight.:2wave:

Instant view: Jobless claims fall 10,000 in latest week | Reuters
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392,000 first time job claims is a victory for Obama? Wow, do you have low standards? How many more have dropped out of the labor force and are no longer counted. Monthly the average is 1 million discouraged workers and millions more losing their unemployment insurance after over two years. Just think what the unemployment rate will be when millions more drop out of the market?
 
99percenter said:
The results show what the majority of this country think.
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Yeah but the Country's thinking can change VERY RAPIDLY...What do you think they thought last week about JoePa? And now what about this week?

I AM MAKING A NON-THREAD RELATED ANALOGY AND DO NOT WANT TO DERAIL THE THREAD SO LETS NOT GO THERE!
 
whysoserious said:
1) They need to find a decent candidate for once who can relate with the base but not sound like a crazy person to everyone else (Romney doesn't sound crazy to everyone else but the conservative base does not seem to relate to him).
2) The economy would have to double dip back into recession. Chances are the economy will not hold in its current mediocre state - so either it is going to double-dip into recession again or it is going to begin to improve. Sadly, unless the GOP can find a decent candidate, I think their best option for election is a double-dip recession.
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The conservative base will have no choice but to vote for Romney. They sure as hell won't give Obama the nod. And the Republican nominee's best chance is for things to stay as they are. You know, spend, tax, vacation, spend, accuse, spend, tax, vacation, accuse, blame, tax, spend, vacation ....
 
donc said:
HARK!!! were onna roll.


<(Reuters) - New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits declined for the second straight week, to the lowest level since the first week of April, the Labor Department said on Thursday
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"Both jobless claims and international trade continue to be generally positive in a sense that they are not falling off the cliff. "​

Congratulations... LOL
 
99percenter said:
That doest mean anything. America always has more selfproclaimed conservatives than moderates. 21% is liberal and 36% is moderate. Those moderates are usually considered liberal by conservatives like you. Im left leaning moderate myself.
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WOW, did you just say polls 'doest mean anything'? If so what purpose was it for you to begin this line of discussion with polls?
 
Dickieboy said:
WOW, did you just say polls 'doest mean anything'? If so what purpose was it for you to begin this line of discussion with polls?
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The poll in question asks people to self identify themselves, these are meaningless. For example, everyone has a different idea in their heads as to what "conservative" means.
 
pbrauer said:
The poll in question asks people to self identify themselves, these are meaningless. For example, everyone has a different idea in their heads as to what "conservative" means.
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Looks to me that 7-10% of those that supported Obama in 2008 had a different definition of Hope and Change than Obama had and now no longer support him.
 
donc said:
You’re right results matter; Osama,the reason we went to war=DEAD.Afghanastan,Americas longest war=seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. Iraq= the unfounded war, built on lies, =winding down. Muammar Gaddafi=dead, war over.

Before you get yourself in a lather about Obamas poll numbers,remember george the first was at at 62% one year out from his 1992 loss. Just sayen.:thumbs::thumbs:
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Have a good book for you regarding the killing of Bin Laden. Tells a different story than "your" President told the American people

[U]Seal Target Geronimo[/U]

Chuck Pfarrer Talks SEAL Target Geronimo | Good Day LA
 
donc said:
I stopped when i seen the Propaganda News logo at the link.Sorry, i put a limit on the amount of fiction i read in a month.:2wave:
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Not surprising at all, you ignore the message because of News Logo? This book was written by a Navy Seal that personally knows the people in Seal Team 6. Again, you ignore anything that flies in the face of how you feel thus will never let facts get in the way of your opinion. That is a dangerous stance to take.

Educate yourself

Amazon.com: SEAL Target Geronimo: The Inside Story of the Mission to Kill Osama bin Laden eBook: Chuck Pfarrer: Kindle Store
 
Is Conservative saying that Barack Obama is not his president? Wow. I get called unpatriotic for disagreeing with Bush about taking us into a war without giving us the whole truth and this guy can disown the entire political system because he doesn't like a guy's politics? That's low.
 
whysoserious said:
Is Conservative saying that Barack Obama is not his president? Wow. I get called unpatriotic for disagreeing with Bush about taking us into a war without giving us the whole truth and this guy can disown the entire political system because he doesn't like a guy's politics? That's low.
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The even better joke is that Obama is little more than a Bush Clone and Conservative will never admit it even though he bashes Obama for the same things Bush did but is genetically incapable of attacking Bush for the same reasons.

The simple fact of the matter is, it actually doesn't matter what Obama does. Conservative simply hates the guy and will find anything to attack him on. Even when he does things Bush did. That's a sign of Obama-derangement. The same way Obama fanatics refuse to criticize Obama for doing things they cried bloody Murder when Bush did, Conservative will criticize Obama for doing things he'll never attack Bush for doing.

It's not Obama's politics. It's the fact there's a D after his name.
 
Sunbelt said:
The conservative base will have no choice but to vote for Romney. They sure as hell won't give Obama the nod. And the Republican nominee's best chance is for things to stay as they are. You know, spend, tax, vacation, spend, accuse, spend, tax, vacation, accuse, blame, tax, spend, vacation ....
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Darkwizard would disagree with you.

Furthermore, tax and spend doesn't result in deficits. Spend and borrow does, to which we had decades of under Bush, Clinton, and Reagan. Why tax and spend is considered an insult is really amusing coming from people who allegedly champion balanced books. You are directly insulting something that your entire basis is built from: matching income to spending to prevent debt and deficits.
 
whysoserious,

Furthermore, if McCain-Palin had won, we'd still be in this mess. And you know he's be bending over backward to defend the bad economy.

Conservative runs away from every challenge asking him to prove why this financial recession should break the normal recovery period. Every time he runs away. Granted, everyone who bashes Obama flees as fast as they can from that, but you get the point.

I keep bringing up examples of other leaders who had the unfortunate luck of being in office as their economy tanked from a financial recession. Those points get ignored entirely by the bashers. I honestly think there are a handful of people here (no more than 12) who can reasonably discuss economics.
 
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Conservative said:
Thanks for your opinion which you are entitled to but that doesn't make your opinion right. Only in the liberal world is increasing the budget from 3.1 trillion to 3.7 trillion up 600 billion better than increasing it from 2.5 trillion to 3.1 trillion up 600 billion dollars all because the percentage change is higher going from 2.5-3.1 trillion? Thanks for that education, shows a lot about you.
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And your post shows a lot about you. You hate facts if they oppose your world view.
 
Conservative said:
Just showing that percentage change really is irrelevant in the discussion about current budgets and the deficit and debt. Seems that when I post actual data that is verifiable that makes me a partisan. Not sure what it makes you when you ignore that data thus actual results.
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I already demonstrated that the percentage change is applicable regardless of the issue, so your post, above, is irrelevant.
 
Dickieboy said:
Your #483 post predicted ‘No extreme conservative will answer it honestly… or at all’…which, while I am not an 'extreme conservative', I did answer so in fact you were wrong…
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You post like an extreme conservative. Your stated lean means nothing. And, if you did answer honestly, you are incorrect. I forgot to include that option.

Then you stated ‘it exposes their flaws and demonstrates how what they are saying is wrong’ which has yet to be proven (IMO but I’m sure not your’s). Again the error in the original question is the premise.
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Of course it exposes the flaws. Your answer was incorrect. Like I said to Conservative, simple and basic statistical analysis. It's like arguing that 2+2 does not equal 4. Argue all you like, but doing so demonstrates dishonesty. 2+2=4 regardless of what side of the political aisle you are on.
 
Conservative said:
Aw yes, excited about poll numbers a year away from the General election without a republican candidate selected. Keep ignoring the Obama results. Wonder what is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty. You really in need of his kind of economy? too bad, this country wasn't built on that style economic policy and the results show it being rejected
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This post demonstrates your complete hypocrisy. You've stated, in this very thread, I believe. polls from swing states that show Obama losing, there, with you claiming that this shows Obama will probably lose in 2012. From now on, whenEVER I see you quote ANY poll prior to a Republican candidate being picked, I will reply with a post quoting the above post of your, showing what a hypocrite you are.
 
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