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Most people don't litter the grounds with perfume bottles....
I could really care less if people can't run around with burning dried leaves wrapped in paper in their mouths. If they weren't so addicted maybe they could go an hour without a cig. I see it as just another sign of weakness with their addiction.
Maybe you've never struggled to quit smoking, but no doubt you've struggled with other personal demons. It's easy to be judgmental. But you need a higher standard than "I don't like it" if you want to criminilize others' "weaknesses."
Also, littering is already a fineable offense.
Ever seen anyone get a ticket for tossing a butt?
It only takes a micro second to flick that butt but it takes minutes for someone to smoke a cig. Thus it would be far easier to catch the litterbug smoking one than flicking it.
The same reason they don't sell chewing gum at Disneyland .
But the act of smoking doen't create litter ... throwing the cigarette butt on the ground does. You're saying people should be fined for having the opportunity to litter? For looking like they might litter? That's a ridiculous standard for law, don't you think? Should all people wearing ski masks be charged with bank robbery?
As for Disneyland ... are they in the habit of fining or citing guests who bring their own gum?
Bad teeth
Bad breath
Smoking leads
To your death
Smokers are filthy people who don't give a damn about others.
I favor the ban.
Also much higher taxes on cigarettes to defray the expense of the clean-up....
As far as I am concerned, they can smoke in air-tight canisters and breath their own crap.
When I see people smoking, I think they're most likely going to die way before me.
When I see people smoking around their kids, I think about calling child services.
Do you feel the same way when you see people drinking?
I just get tired of paying for other people's destructive behavior and to clean up the messes they make. I have little sympathy for their cause.
so you agree with me that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay with those who spawn like rabbits when they cannot afford to even raise one child properly?
A few hundred dollars aggregated over the whole of the smoking community. And the whole of the smoking community does not have to have heart and lung transplants or get cancer. It's a dramatic increase in probability and more smokers than non-smokers will be affected by these diseases; but not all of them get it. Maybe we can stop with the hyperbole and deal only with reality? Maybe? In addition, they pay larger heath insurance premiums (which you don't seem to be adding in) and subsidize pensions (which you don't seem to be adding in).
No, they don't fine guests for having gum. They also know that not everyone spits their gum out on the sidewalk and grass areas. But enough do to ruin it for everyone else. So they just outlaw sell of gum on the property to keep their grounds clean for everyone to enjoy.
Just as not all smokers are slobs but enough are that the easiest way to prevent it is to make it illegal.
Am certain this may not be the entire reason for making it illegal but it does benefit everyone else.
so you agree with me that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay with those who spawn like rabbits when they cannot afford to even raise one child properly?
Sounds like veiled bigotry, IMHO.
What race of people are you talking about?
Interesting comparison. Would you mind your tax dollars to go for aborting those spawned children which would costs you more if allowed to live?
no race but you will do your best to find a reason to scream racism
I'm not screaming.
How can people be 'no race'. They must be some race.
Of these undeserving over-breeders, what percentage (in your mind) are white? what percentage are black? what percentage are hispanic?
Answer the question honestly.
And, in general, what percentage of the population (again in your mind) are having babies they can't afford?
My best friend is 1/4 Native American, 1/4 Hispanic, 1/4 African-American, and 1/4 Polish. What "race" would he qualify as? :shrug:How can people be 'no race'. They must be some race.
so you agree with me that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay with those who spawn like rabbits when they cannot afford to even raise one child properly?
Social drinkers may outlive me.
People who drink while on vacation with their kids...depends on the situation, are they driving a speed boat?
Sounds like veiled bigotry, IMHO.
What race of people are you talking about?
Because you want to be laughed at?When I see people smoking around their kids, I think about calling child services.
Smokers may outlive you too. You are hating on a group of people for no other reason than you dislike thier habit. I am sure you have bad habits too.
Smokers may outlive you too.
You are hating on a group of people for no other reason than you dislike thier habit.
I am sure you have bad habits too.
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