New photo released from night of shooting

[spanky]

Which he probably would have done had he not noticed this guy following him suspiciously. Its even possible Z accosted Martin. We just don't know at this point.

For god's sake, will TM supporters quit with the "it wouldn't have happened if Z didn't get out of the car" idiocy. It's immaterial and even worse, insipid twaddle.

 

[Excon]

Oh so the prosecution/state took the photo, downloaded it to a laptop and released it? They had custody of it from the moment it was taken, to the moment they released it? No one else touched it eh

The photo was taken as evidence. You are alleging a conspiracy. That is ridiculous. Or don't you know that?

 

[Excon]

Its even possible Z accosted Martin.

Not by the evidence. By the evidence, it is not.

We just don't know at this point.

By the evidence - yes we do know.

 

[ric27]

I think the def will be able to show in court that the instructions given Zimm were contradictory at best and that they didn't instruct him to discontinue looking for TM until he was out of the car and well on his way to where the incident occurred, at which point Zimm stopped.

No, you miss the point as well as Catawba

Z was just doing what the Sanford Police had instructed members of the community to do when they saw something suspicious....call NEN for the police to report their suspicion.

Legally, Z did not break any law by getting out of his truck nor did he break the law by reporting M as suspicious or trying to keep an eye on him while waiting for the police

The dispatcher asking which way M had gone and for freaking address is just gravy on top of the mash potatoes....

Completely reasonable he would get out of his truck to locate an address if none was readily visible from where his truck was stationed

 

[ric27]

Where does it say "follow"? Or even "Please exit your vehicle and proceed to go in the same direction":lamo

Z did not follow. The dispatcher asked Z which way M had gone. Z was looking to see which direction M had gone and for a street address

All perfectly legal

 

[spanky]

No, you miss the point as well as Catawba

Z was just doing what the Sanford Police had instructed members of the community to do when they saw something suspicious....call NEN for the police to report their suspicion.

Legally, Z did not break any law by getting out of his truck nor did he break the law by reporting M as suspicious or trying to keep an eye on him while waiting for the police

The dispatcher asking which way M had gone and for freaking address is just gravy on top of the mash potatoes....

Completely reasonable he would get out of his truck to locate an address if none was readily visible from where his truck was stationed

First off, I was agreeing with you. Second, I also don't disagree with most of your assertions above with the exception of the last.

Zimm initally claimed he got out of his truck and went down that path to get an address but this is unsupportable because he actually moved from a position of seeing many addresses to a portion of the community that was all back yards with no addresses.

Let's just agree Zimm got out of the car to tail TM so he could give an updated location of TM to police when they arrived. The address issue came up later IMO is a little suspect anyway since the easiest solution is to just tell 911 to have the police meet at the highly visible rec room. So what was up with all the address crap?

Zimm eventually asked that cops call him when they got there and IMO that was because Zimm intended on continuing his search for TM.

 

[JackFrost]

The photo was taken as evidence. You are alleging a conspiracy. That is ridiculous. Or don't you know that?

Ah yes I forgot. Conspiracies AGAINST George "Walks on Water" Zimmerman are ridiculous. Conspiracies IN FAVOR of George "He who died for our sins" Zimmerman are scripture to you:lol:

I believe there is evidence of police corruption. Call it ridiculous all you want. Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains taken to bring it to light -G.W.

Fact#1
The Illuminati is setting up George Zimmerman « The Moxie Sophic

Fact #2
Obama

Fact #4
George Zimmerman in Jail — What is Second Degree Murder? | Common Sense Conspiracy

^These are ridiculous bruh^:lol:

 

[Excon]

Zimm initally claimed he got out of his truck and went down that path to get an address but this is unsupportable because he actually moved from a position of seeing many addresses to a portion of the community that was all back yards with no addresses.

Wrong! It is supportable as he clearly indicates what address he was attempting to get.

 

[JackFrost]

Z did not follow. The dispatcher asked Z which way M had gone. Z was looking to see which direction M had gone and for a street address

All perfectly legal

Which way M had gone =/= get out of your vehicle and follow or go in the same direction or look for an address.

Sorry try again:lol:

 

[Excon]

Ah yes I forgot. Conspiracies AGAINST George "Walks on Water" Zimmerman are ridiculous. Conspiracies IN FAVOR of George "He who died for our sins" Zimmerman are scripture to you:lol:

I believe there is evidence of police corruption. Call it ridiculous all you want. Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains taken to bring it to light -G.W.

Fact#1
The Illuminati is setting up George Zimmerman « The Moxie Sophic

Fact #2
Obama

Fact #4
George Zimmerman in Jail — What is Second Degree Murder? | Common Sense Conspiracy

^These are ridiculous bruh^:lol:

You are being ridiculous brah!
There is no evidence of police corruption unless you wish to talk about the pressure Serino got from fellow officers to charge Zimmerman.
Although that isn't exactly corruption because it never came to fruition, that is the only thing that comes close.

As far as I am concerned, I think you have gone off the deep-end.

 

[JackFrost]

Wrong! It is supportable as he clearly indicates what address he was attempting to get.

Yes, it makes sense to ignore the address of the house TM ran behind which he could have seen from his vehicle, and instead get out of his vehicle to obtain an address across the T intersection. TM wasn't even headed toward that address, he cut a right. And how convenient it also happened to be in the same direction, part of way, TM ran.

ZIMMERLOGIC:lamo

 

[Catawba]

For god's sake, will TM supporters quit with the "it wouldn't have happened if Z didn't get out of the car" idiocy. It's immaterial and even worse, insipid twaddle.

Its up to the courts to decide if Z instigated the incident that resulted in TM's death. I don't think we can pretend it has no bearing on the case.

 

[Excon]

Yes, it makes sense to ignore the address of the house TM ran behind which he could have seen from his vehicle, and instead get out of his vehicle to obtain an address across the T intersection. TM wasn't even headed toward that address, he cut a right. And how convenient it also happened to be in the same direction, part of way, TM ran.

ZIMMERLOGIC:lamo

No. That is your logic.
You obviously do not know the evidence to even say such crap.

 

[Catawba]

Not by the evidence. By the evidence, it is not.



By the evidence - yes we do know.

You are privy to all the evidence in the case? And you know the verdict before the trial? Riiiiiiiiiiiight.....

 

[Excon]

Its up to the courts to decide if Z instigated the incident that resulted in TM's death. I don't think we can pretend it has no bearing on the case.

And since his action in doing so were not illegal or even wrong he didn't instigate anything.
Now Trayvon approaching him from behind (which is the evidence), verbally confronting him and then immediately attacking him is wrong and illegal.
Especially since Trayvon did not let up when Zimmerman was calling for help.

 

[Excon]

You are privy to all the evidence in the case? And you know the verdict before the trial? Riiiiiiiiiiiight.....

iLOL We have pretty much all significant information.

What don't you think we have.

And from the evidence that we know about, there may not be a trial.

 

[spanky]

Its up to the courts to decide if Z instigated the incident that resulted in TM's death. I don't think we can pretend it has no bearing on the case.

Of course, but getting out a car is no more instigating the incident then getting out of bed in the morning. Zimm was acting in his capacity of NW Captain. Whoever grabbed who first or threw the first punch is who instigated the incident. We have Zimm's account but the pross will throw that into question via Zimm's unsupportable statements about where TM punched him coupled with a discrepancy in the timeline.

 

[274ina]

No, I'm saying the injuries in the picture could have been caused by Martin acting justifiably in self-defense, before he was shot. That really didn't occur to you?

LMAO, Then he HAD NO JUSTIFICATION to punch him! The punch had to come after the shot.

Get your logic right!

 

[Catawba]

Of course, but getting out a car is no more instigating the incident then getting out of bed in the morning. Zimm was acting in his capacity of NW Captain. Whoever grabbed who first or threw the first punch is who instigated the incident. We have Zimm's account but the pross will throw that into question via Zimm's unsupportable statements about where TM punched him coupled with a discrepancy in the timeline.

No, but stalking someone with a gun, when ordered not to follow, may be considered instigating. Enjoy your speculation of what happened and what the verdict will be.

 

[274ina]

Its up to the courts to decide if Z instigated the incident that resulted in TM's death. I don't think we can pretend it has no bearing on the case.

I can legally "instigate" all day agianst you and it is perfectly legal.

I can follow you all day in public places. Nothing you can do. I can even video you all day........

(And dont spout the " harrasmaent laws, they require many many days of following to kick in. )

Key is who threw a punch. And the OP picture says it all.

 

[Caine]

Love all you want. Everything in this case just didn't add up. As far as the stench goes, I don't trust anything the SPD has to offer. They are all so messed and rotten up from top to bottom. There are many corrupt cops in there than to meet the eyes.

Tennessee =/= Florida.

Your claims of knowledge of the SPD from top to bottom are unsupported and just plain desperate.

 

[Catawba]

I can legally "instigate" all day agianst you and it is perfectly legal.

I can follow you all day in public places. Nothing you can do. I can even video you all day........

(And dont spout the " harrasmaent laws, they require many many days of following to kick in. )

Key is who threw a punch. And the OP picture says it all.

So you believe the penalty for punching some one in nose should be death? We come from two different worlds you and I.

 

[274ina]

No, but stalking someone with a gun, when ordered not to follow, may be considered instigating. Enjoy your speculation of what happened and what the verdict will be.

So a 911 operator tells you what to do? WOW. talk about a slave.

Yes, if the weapon was drawn that is a threat. But nothing and no one says this.

facts say weapon was drawn during the fight.

 

[274ina]

So you believe the penalty for punching some one in nose should be death? We come from two different worlds you and I.

yes it should be.

some states require deadly force others do not. FL does not.

You have no right to limit my self defence from attack.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I can legally "instigate" all day agianst you and it is perfectly legal.

I can follow you all day in public places. Nothing you can do. I can even video you all day........

(And dont spout the " harrasmaent laws, they require many many days of following to kick in. )

Key is who threw a punch. And the OP picture says it all.

Yep. You don't bring Skittles and an attitude to gunfight twice.