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Netanyahu Slams U.S. Student Protests: ‘Reminiscent Of What Happened In German Universities In The 1930s’

ElChupacabra said:
That was your claim which he refuted.
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It was his claim that Jews are liars.
The fact that you support him is a crystal clear proof of what you're about and why you've been downplaying antisemitism all this time.

snakestretcher said:
It says it is permitted to lie, quite clearly in my link to a Jewish source.

"Understanding the permissibility to lie".

"Examples of permissible lying".


I welcome your comments.
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SLC said:
Yes there has been collateral damage. If Hamas wasn't hiding behind the skirts of women and children there would be less. The number of innocent dead is likely MUCH less than you suggest. Those numbers come from Hamas who want useful idiots to pressure Israel into a ceasefire in order to save their own skins. Remember Hamas telling us that Israel bombed a hospital killing over 500 doctors and nurses and patients. The truth was it was a Palestinian rocket that fell in a parking lot and killed fewer that 50 people. And yet for some strange reason you want to accept Hamas' numbers. Hamas could stop the killing today by giving back the hostages and surrendering.
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So you have fully accepted the propaganda of Netanyahoo and his mouthpieces. Thank you for proving my post #31.
 
Apocalypse said:
I'm all for free speech and I think the two issues are completely separate.
You can have free speech and allow Nazis to protest and say what's on their mind while you can still act against those Nazis, especially when they do so within a University campus and create a hostile environment that threatens the lives of minorities.
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If the Pro Hamas protesters are so innocent and righteous, why are many of them wearing masks?...

The real issue is that Hamas and Iran have a much better propaganda machine.
 
@Normalist

Looks like that quote is referring to Nazis and not to "pro-Palestine protesters" in general - of whom I'm sure there are at least some who protest peacefully and do not call for the extermination of Jews or associate themselves with genocidal antisemitic organizations.
 
Apocalypse said:
@Normalist

Looks like that quote is referring to Nazis and not to "pro-Palestine protesters" in general - of whom I'm sure there are at least some who protest peacefully and do not call for the extermination of Jews or associate themselves with genocidal antisemitic organizations.
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The vast majority seem to be protesting peacefully, actually.
 
Normalist said:
The vast majority seem to be protesting peacefully, actually.
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I agree. It's always the minority that is violent. Doesn't make much difference to those Jews who face harassment, does it?
 
Apocalypse said:
I'm all for free speech and I think the two issues are completely separate.
You can have free speech and allow Nazis to protest and say what's on their mind while you can still act against those Nazis, especially when they do so within a University campus and create a hostile environment that threatens the lives of minorities.
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Article 1 of the US Constitution allows for too much free speech IMO, but that is a slippery slope. When public hate speech is protected speech up to the point where someone feels unsafe due to threats, a different kind of slippery slope exists.

Netanyahu's opinion about the protests here is irrelevant. The issue is what campuses are doing about student protests. Private institutions such as Columbia are not bound by the First Amendment and have great freedom to restrict student protests. Those institutions should designate free speech areas on campus, establish guidelines for protests with a clause stating that disruption of university business (this includes classes) conducted on campus is cause for the university to end the protest, require a permit which includes limiting the duration of the protest, provide sufficient safety for all campus visitors, and remove anyone who does not comply with safety guidelines.

Public and private institutions of higher learning who do not have/enforce protest guidelines are showing failures somewhere in their administrative structure that needs to be addressed. The issues that drive protests are teachable moments and institutions that can't or won't take advantage of the opportunity are failing their students.
 
Apocalypse said:
It was his claim that Jews are liars.
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It was not and you should know this. So I'm left to think you are either incapable of understanding what he was specifically saying, or you just ran with what he said as to imply all Jews are liars. I'm sure you'll double down on this, so it will be at least worth the predictable chuckle.

Apocalypse said:
The fact that you support him is a crystal clear proof of what you're about and why you've been downplaying antisemitism all this time.
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Nope, and your schtick is old. Thanks for proving my point about dishonesty though, because rather than citing anything I've said to make your case, you just resort to "guilt by association" when even what you're accusing @snakestretcher for is poorly framed.
 
that's unfortunate and true harassment of anyone is wrong, but considering that Israel has almost certainly killed far more children then the small number of jews who have their feelings hurt, it's clear which side is more at fault for the current mess.
Apocalypse said:
I agree. It's always the minority that is violent. Doesn't make much difference to those Jews who face harassment, does it?
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ElChupacabra said:
It was not and you should know this. So I'm left to think you are either incapable of understanding what he was specifically saying, or you just ran with what he said as to imply all Jews are liars. I'm sure you'll double down on this, so it will be at least worth the predictable chuckle.
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Notice how you haven't for once provided your explanation for what he meant when he said Jews are liars?
Good, this shows you understand that you're only here to provide moral support for antisemitism.
 
Normalist said:
that's unfortunate and true harassment of anyone is wrong, but considering that Israel has almost certainly killed far more children then the small number of jews who have their feelings hurt, it's clear which side is more at fault for the current mess.
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And the US killed more civilians than ISIS did when it went after ISIS, but we both know what it means when one sides with the latter over the former.
 
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Apocalypse said:
Notice how you haven't for once provided your explanation for what he meant when he said Jews are liars?
Good, this shows you understand that you're only here to provide moral support for antisemitism.
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Nobody owes you an explanation or any other damn thing.
 
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Apocalypse said:
Then you and @ElChupacabra are more than welcomed to explain how claiming that Jews are liars is criticizing Israel.
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Oh please! :ROFLMAO: You have accused me of anti-Semitism more than once. That is a lie and I challenged you to prove it. You failed. I recommend you examine yourself before accusing others.
 
snakestretcher said:
No

Nobody owes you an explanation or any other damn thing.
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So you're not willing to explain what you meant when you claimed Jews are liars and yet you and @ElChupacabra believe you cannot be called out on this clearly antisemitic drivel.
 
Apocalypse said:
Notice how you haven't for once provided your explanation for what he meant when he said Jews are liars?
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I didn't because he did not say all Jews are liars. That's what you took from what he said, so are you asking me to explain your absurd premise to you?

Apocalypse said:
Good, this shows you understand that you're only here to provide moral support for antisemitism.
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There's the double down on an idiotic statement that's always delicious.
:ROFLMAO:
 
Apocalypse said:
So you're not willing to explain what you meant when you claimed Jews are liars and yet you and @ElChupacabra believe you cannot be called out on this clearly antisemitic drivel.
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I don't have to explain anything on demand-especially to you. Go away and take your unhealthy obsession with you.
 
Apocalypse said:
So you're not willing to explain what you meant when you claimed Jews are liars and yet you and @ElChupacabra believe you cannot be called out on this clearly antisemitic drivel.
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What I am still waiting on is where you cite anything that I have ever said being anti-Semitic. You throw this around cheaply, yet wilt like a delicate flower when pressed to actually back it up. You remind me of that other poster who claimed I am anti-Palestinian because I didn't toe the pro-Palestine line completely. I do enjoy these false accusations from the extremists on an issue because the mental gymnastics from you lot are pretty comical.
 
ElChupacabra said:
I didn't because he did not say all Jews are liars. That's what you took from what he said, so are you asking me to explain your absurd premise to you?
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What did he say then? What was his argument in claiming that Jews are allowed to lie in their culture? How was it directed against something other than Jews?
Your idiotic screeching and squirming doesn't seem to do much to change the fact that you support a blatant (and really quite stupid) example of antisemitism.
You fail to provide any alternative explanation to his statement and just repeat yourself like a child who is caught doing something bad and repeats the lie that he didn't do it.
 
ElChupacabra said:
What I am still waiting on is where you cite anything that I have ever said being anti-Semitic. You throw this around cheaply, yet wilt like a delicate flower when pressed to actually back it up. You remind me of that other poster who claimed I am anti-Palestinian because I didn't toe the pro-Palestine line completely. I do enjoy these false accusations from the extremists on an issue because the mental gymnastics from you lot are pretty comical.
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There you go again to your go-to excuse for antisemitism trying to claim it has anything to do with Israel.
He attacked Jews in general - non-Israeli and Israeli.
This has nothing to do with Israel and as such your support for antisemitism is simply that and you have nowhere to run to.
Please repeat the lie that he "didn't do it" when it is quoted and shown that he did, while you don't provide any alternative explanation even from your own misleading point of view, it's meaningless.
 
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