Netanyahu Slams U.S. Student Protests: ‘Reminiscent Of What Happened In German Universities In The 1930s’

[VySky]

I'm not making the claim, so why don't you tell me why you think he's right? It should be obvious, but since it doesn't seem to be the case for you, I'm curious to hear your views.

You are the one calling out a difference.

I'll ask again

What is it?

 

[ElChupacabra]

There are one or two of those Zionist zealots here who are no doubt nodding in agreement with Netanyahu's idiotic comment.

Yep. What gets ignored is the protests have been a mix of people who are protesting Israel's actions in Gaza, which include Jewish organizations and ultra Orthodox anti-Zionists. The protests have varied in what specific aspect of the conflict the organizers are addressing. Unfortunately in that mix are also idiots taking it a step further and harassing Jewish onlookers, which is unacceptable. Groups holding protests would be best served by weeding those people out because they are disruptive elements to the coalition of people protesting the war. Thinking all Jews support Israel's actions is just as flawed as Palestinians all supporting HAMAS.

 

[SLC]

Is this the same Netanyahoo who has now overseen the deaths of 35,000 Palestinians to include a large percentage of women and children, and entire families at a time, and the destruction of thousands of families homes? He just needs to STFU.

Yes there has been collateral damage. If Hamas wasn't hiding behind the skirts of women and children there would be less. The number of innocent dead is likely MUCH less than you suggest. Those numbers come from Hamas who want useful idiots to pressure Israel into a ceasefire in order to save their own skins. Remember Hamas telling us that Israel bombed a hospital killing over 500 doctors and nurses and patients. The truth was it was a Palestinian rocket that fell in a parking lot and killed fewer that 50 people. And yet for some strange reason you want to accept Hamas' numbers. Hamas could stop the killing today by giving back the hostages and surrendering.

 

[snakestretcher]

Harassing Jews is antisemitic.
Then again, so is your claim that Jews are all liars, so as a person who openly promotes antisemitism you're one to talk.

I never made that claim, nor have I ever promoted anti-Semitism, overtly or otherwise-except in your fantasies; but of course if you can provide evidence supporting your absurd accusations, we'll take it from there. You are lying and throwing around false accusations, again, because you don't like being challenged. The whole forum can see that; I suggest you stop accusing people of things they never did, because you're fooling nobody but yourself.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You are the one calling out a difference.

I'll ask again

What is it?

I didn't make the similarity, but I'm happy to share my views in the absence of you articulating the similarities. He's making a comparison to Nazi efforts to remove Jews from all kinds of power in Germany, which included pushing them out of academia. This was based on the idea that Germans of Aryan descent were the ones entitled to positions of power, and since Jews had managed to establish themselves well in academia and economically, they needed to be removed. The protests in German universities were essentially about removing Jews from teaching positions and attending universities so only those of Aryan descent would be able to. Note that it was also non-Aryans who were the target as well.

The protests against Israel's actions in Gaza are not about removing Jews from universities or attacking any economic power Jews have in the US or anywhere else. They are about ending the conflict in Gaza so no more Palestinians get killed, and some are also about curtailing financial support to Israel from the US as a means to end the conflict. Now, are there anti-Semites in that mix of people? Sure. Does that mean the protests are about that kind of messaging? Nope. The danger we face in highly divisive issues like this one is the rush to generalize and assume groups are monoliths; that's rarely true and helps remove reason from the mix. Netanyahu focused on the extremist placards/chants he's seen and heard then ran with that rather than focusing on the larger messages of the protests.

The other thing Netanyahu seems to have forgotten is things like "Death to America" or "Death to [insert nation here]" are protected speech in this country, and while many will not agree with those sentiments, it is in the fabric of our right of expression as much as it is for us to counter protest that kind of vile messaging. Netanyahu is using the US for his own end, and sowing division by making these ridiculous comparisons is how he gets willing parrots to spread the nonsense. Well done!

So how are they similar?

 

[VySky]

I didn't make the similarity, but I'm happy to share my views in the absence of you articulating the similarities. He's making a comparison to Nazi efforts to remove Jews from all kinds of power in Germany, which included pushing them out of academia. This was based on the idea that Germans of Aryan descent were the ones entitled to positions of power, and since Jews had managed to establish themselves well in academia and economically, they needed to be removed. The protests in German universities were essentially about removing Jews from teaching positions and attending universities so only those of Aryan descent would be able to. Note that it was also non-Aryans who were the target as well.

The protests against Israel's actions in Gaza are not about removing Jews from universities or attacking any economic power Jews have in the US or anywhere else. They are about ending the conflict in Gaza so no more Palestinians get killed, and some are also about curtailing financial support to Israel from the US as a means to end the conflict. Now, are there anti-Semites in that mix of people? Sure. Does that mean the protests are about that kind of messaging? Nope. The danger we face in highly divisive issues like this one is the rush to generalize and assume groups are monoliths; that's rarely true and helps remove reason from the mix. Netanyahu focused on the extremist placards/chants he's seen and heard then ran with that rather than focusing on the larger messages of the protests.

The other thing Netanyahu seems to have forgotten is things like "Death to America" or "Death to [insert nation here]" are protected speech in this country, and while many will not agree with those sentiments, it is in the fabric of our right of expression as much as it is for us to counter protest that kind of vile messaging. Netanyahu is using the US for his own end, and sowing division by making these ridiculous comparisons is how he gets willing parrots to spread the nonsense. Well done!

So how are they similar?

I appreciate the well thought out response.

But to answer your question.

Simple.

Persecution

 

[VySky]

The other thing Netanyahu seems to have forgotten is things like "Death to America" or "Death to [insert nation here]" are protected speech in this country,

Yet we can't yell fire in a theatre. Some of us find "Death to America" more damaging.

 

[NolanVoyd]

OMG - are undergrads burning the Reichstag yet?

Netanyahu Blasts Student Protests Over ‘Antisemitic Surge’

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned recent pro-Palestinian protests, arguing antisemitism “is the canary in the coal mine.”

www.forbes.com

Netanyahu likens US campus encampments by ‘antisemitic mobs’ to 1930s Nazi Germany

PM claims anti-Israel protesters are also chanting 'Death to America'; standoff at Columbia continues amid dueling claims about talks with management on taking down tents

www.timesofisrael.com

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Your Headline should have read:

"War criminal slams student protests against war crimes".

 

[ElChupacabra]

I appreciate the well thought out response.

But to answer your question.

Simple.

Persecution

That's horribly over generalized an a massive reach, but you'll need to build this argument out further for it to come close to being viable. Netanyahu and others like him love to compare everything to Nazis and the Holocaust because they're easy emotions to stir up, which is why nonsensical comparisons need to be called out. What happened to Jews in German universities required institutional complicity to remove Jews from them, which is nothing like what's happening now since universities have taken actions against the protestors, not Jews.

 

[Fletch]

Hyperbole. Bibi should submit his stuff to The Onion.

Right. Only liberals are allowed to engage in endless hyperbolic links to Nazi Germany

 

[ElChupacabra]

Yet we can't yell fire in a theatre.

Sure we can. Legally we can do so if there's an actual fire, or if we believe there is a fire.

Some of us find "Death to America" more damaging.

But it is protected speech, so if you appreciate the freedom of expression and don't like censorship, you have to keep the baby and the bathwater. Of course you can go and stage a counter protest at a "Death to America" march so you and like minded people can express a different view.

 

[SLC]

Yet we can't yell fire in a theatre. Some of us find "Death to America" more damaging.

Harassing other ethnic groups is unacceptable in this country.

 

[Normalist]

Thus really just shows who really runs the show in this country.

America is a vassal state to Israel and to jewish supremacists.

 

[Fletch]

Your Headline should have read:

"War criminal slams student protests against war crimes".

False. If these leftist anti-Semitic protesters were really outraged about war crimes, they wouldnt be embracing Hamas

 

[Apocalypse]

Not at all. There are just some who buck those who use anti-Semitism as a blanket excuse to shut down dissent of a foreign country's specific actions.

Seeing how you align yourself with @snakestretcher who claims all Jews (Israelis and non-Israelis) are "liars" due to their culture, I fear you have an agenda to downplay antisemitism and Jew hatred by repeating this nonsense about how standing up to vile lowlife antisemites is "attempting to shut down discussion".

 

[Normalist]

Seeing how you align yourself with @snakestretcher who claims all Jews (Israelis and non-Israelis) are "liars" due to their culture, I fear you have an agenda to downplay antisemitism and Jew hatred by repeating this nonsense about how standing up to vile lowlife antisemites is "attempting to shut down discussion".

Are you against free speech if it offends the sensibilities of a certain ethnic group?

 

[Apocalypse]

Are you against free speech if it offends the sensibilities of a certain ethnic group?

I'm all for free speech and I think the two issues are completely separate.
You can have free speech and allow Nazis to protest and say what's on their mind while you can still act against those Nazis, especially when they do so within a University campus and create a hostile environment that threatens the lives of minorities.

 

[Argent]

The number of innocent dead is likely MUCH less than you suggest. Those numbers come from Hamas who want useful idiots to pressure Israel into a ceasefire in order to save their own skins.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/middleeast/un-calls-for-investigation-gaza-mass-graves-mime-intl/index.html

 

[ElChupacabra]

Seeing how you align yourself with @snakestretcher who claims all Jews (Israelis and non-Israelis) are "liars" due to their culture, I fear you have an agenda to downplay antisemitism and Jew hatred by repeating this nonsense about how standing up to vile lowlife antisemites is "attempting to shut down discussion".

For starters, you mischaracterized what he said and then if that wasn't bad enough, you claim because I agreed with him on a specific comment that I am now "aligned" with @snakestretcher in whatever nonsense you attribute to him. What's insightful here is you've demonstrated how this tactic of trying to suppress dissent actually works. I challenge you to specifically cite where I have ever downplayed antisemitism or stated anything remotely close to "standing up to vile lowlife antisemites is 'attempting to shut down discussion'". To be very clear, I have stated that there are those who continually use anti-Semitism as a way of labeling all who support Palestinians as being anti-Semites, which is an absurd claim.

Your intellectual dishonesty continues it seems, so I welcome your framing of my supposed position with citations and a proper argument from you.

 

[Ikari]

Yea, he likes to play victim and make hyperbolic statements, just like the rest of his regime.

Jewish protestors are also involved in the anti israel protests.

No one should give a shit what this lying, corrupt, war criminal thinks.

That's because there are some trying to sell the low-IQ argument that any dissent or condemnation of Israel's actions must immediately mean that one is attacking Jewish people in general.

There are certainly anti-Jewish people within the protesting, but being Pro-Palestine doesn't mean one is immediately anti-Semitic. But those left with no argument in the tank will pull out this line and try to paint every critique, dissent, or condemnation of Netanyahu or his war as being anti-Semitic.

Now, that being said, some of these campus protests are getting out of hand, and are interfering with other student's education they purchased. It's the whole, your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. People have the right to protest, they do not have the right to harass, threaten, or infringe on the rights and property of others. So some of these campuses are going to need to find ways to pull the protests into areas that still allow the campus to function.

 

[Normalist]

I'm all for free speech and I think the two issues are completely separate.
You can have free speech and allow Nazis to protest and say what's on their mind while you can still act against those Nazis, especially when they do so within a University campus and create a hostile environment that threatens the lives of minorities.

How the people protesting "nazis" and why should we act against them?

 

[Apocalypse]

For starters, you mischaracterized what he said

Then go ahead and explain what he meant when he made a post claiming Jews are liars due to their culture.
And what does it say about you that you hurry to the defense of such a person?

 

[Apocalypse]

How the people protesting "nazis" and why should we act against them?

Where was it said that "people who are protesting" are Nazis?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Then go ahead and explain what he meant when he made a post claiming Jews are liars due to their culture.
And what does it say about you that you hurry to the defense of such a person?

That was your claim which he refuted.

 

[Ahlevah]

Your Headline should have read:

"War criminal slams student protests against war crimes".

Hamas needs to free the hostages and stop hiding among civilians. In fact, it should either surrender or just die.