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Near Miss In Chicago

Integrityrespec said:
Wow! Looks vaguely familiar to an experience I had some years ago, while jumpseating a 727 on a trip.
I'll bet the fault is the pilot of the private jet. If not, the ground controller would be my next guess. I seriously doubt it's the pilot of the passenger jet, because he's not landing without clearance.
I hope they find out the cause soon.
I will say, these things are not new, but with the recent attention caused by the DC midair, and the probability of so many passengers aiming their camera phone at everything, we are seeing them brought to our attention more often.
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How did you get authorization to ride in the cockpit, are/were you a controller or FAA employee?
 
Luce said:
If you read the thread, the pilot of the small plane was given clear directions, repeated them back incorrectly, and then just cruised out across the runway.
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They were given clear instructions, read them back incorrectly, were corrected by the controller, then read them back correctly,  then "just cruised out across the runway."

Then the tower tried to tell them to stop but their transmission was stepped on.

Tower did their job, and did it well. A thousand of them wouldn't have stopped this, short of standing at hold short lines in bright yellow vests with marshaling sticks.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm… do you think that (near miss?) incident means ATC was doing a good job?
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Hard to say. Could be pilot error. Could be a controller error. Could be a garbled transmission or a misunderstanding.
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Hard to say. Could be pilot error. Could be a controller error. Could be a garbled transmission or a misunderstanding.
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Did you bother to listen to the radio transmissions? The Flexjet pilot got the initial instructions wrong, was corrected by the tower and then STILL ****ed up. Ignore reality all you like and blame Trump all you like. If it makes you feel better then THAT is what really counts in this world.
 
Lutherf said:
Did you bother to listen to the radio transmissions? The Flexjet pilot got the initial instructions wrong, was corrected by the tower and then STILL ****ed up. Ignore reality all you like and blame Trump all you like. If it makes you feel better then THAT is what really counts in this world.
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Mycroft must be on break?
 
Lutherf said:
Ignore reality all you like and blame Trump all you like
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I never mentioned trump fella. You sound a little defensive.

Now that you mention it though is seems a LOT of airplane mishaps and near mishaps have been happening since Crooked donnie trump. This wasn't happening with Joe Biden.
 
jpevans said:
Did Muskrat doze off. He has charge, since he fired the overseers, right?
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Yep. This is COMPLETELY at the feet of Muck, Trump and MAGAs as a whole. We never had a runway incursion before these twits took over and fired the whole federal government! We're all gonna die and it's their fault!!!!
 
Lutherf said:
Yep. This is COMPLETELY at the feet of Muck, Trump and MAGAs as a whole. We never had a runway incursion before these twits took over and fired the whole federal government! We're all gonna die and it's their fault!!!!
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Luther, stop making sense.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Citation required.
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Perhaps you are right that the Southwest Airlines pilot was not warned by ATC that the other jet was about to cross in front of it. But

the pilot on the ground in the smaller jet was warned 9 times by ATC to not proceed.

 
EnigmaO01 said:
Perhaps you are right that the Southwest Airlines pilot was not warned by ATC that the other jet was about to cross in front of it.
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Thank you.

EnigmaO01 said:
But

the pilot on the ground in the smaller jet was warned 9 times by ATC to not proceed.

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Did the smaller jet pilot get a FAA traffic ticket or have their pilots license suspended or revoked?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Thank you.



Did the smaller jet pilot get a FAA traffic ticket or have their pilots license suspended or revoked?
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I'm sure something will be in the works especially since the owner of the offending airplane (not the pilot) says he will comply with whatever is necessary.

Doesn't that come after the investigation is complete though?
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Perhaps you are right that the Southwest Airlines pilot was not warned by ATC that the other jet was about to cross in front of it. But

the pilot on the ground in the smaller jet was warned 9 times by ATC to not proceed.

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Yep.

The Flex Jet pilot must be an Oregon driver.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm… do you think that (near miss?) incident means ATC was doing a good job?
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The recordings show that ATC/ground control people did their jobs properly. The commercial jet pilots appeared to be confused with the taxing instructions and their location. ATC had to correct the commercial jet's pilots at least a couple of times, and ATC had clearly instructed the commercial to hold short of the runway due to a cleared flight landing on the same runway. The commercial jet's pilots proceeded to cross the runway anyway and only the alertness of the Southwest pilots and their quick reaction saved the day. That was an outstanding professional job by the Southwest pilots.
 
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