Stinger said:
You didn't rebut anything.
So says you. The dictionary would disagree:
re·but ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-bt)
1. v. re·but·ted, re·but·ting, re·buts
2. v. tr.To refute, especially by offering opposing evidence or arguments, as in a legal case.
3. To repel.
4. v. intr. To present opposing evidence or arguments.
No it was an attack on her opinion and on her her personally, your comparsion to the Klan. You may have arrived at YOUR opinion through observation but what you posted was at attack, and unnecessary and not worth mentioning.
You say tomato, I say valid-observation-based-on-the-hate-filled-rhetoric-she-has-used-to-make-herself-famous. Further, I only made my observation to show a contrast between a person who asserts herself as a professional and a show meant for entertainment purposes. If you cant deal iwth qualifying information, you are in the wrong place.
So you are the last person to do it but you did it anyway.
Have I called you a bigot for supporting her? Have I made any assertion that the christians are out to get gays for their uproar over the Will and Grace episode in question? Do I often make such remarks? Yes, one of the last. In Dr. Laura's case, a spade is still a spade though.
Not at all. Your opinion of what she specifically says has nothing to do with the subject we were discussing, the right to lobby against an opinion you disagree with. Some would stridently disagree with you over what she said/says, but then you didn't want to have that debate you just wanted to let your little dig at her stand. Well as I said it wasn't worth mentioning in the first place.
What she says has everything to do with the subject at hand. My observation of the differences between her agenda and a show meant for entertainment is more than germane to the conversation. I didnt intend to make it a huge side-track, but you made it quite clear that your ardor for her outweighs your supposed desire to "keep it on topic". And if it wasnt worth mentioning in the first place, then dont bring her up again. Choose a more respectable example next time and you wont be faced with this opposition.
No it didn't. In both cases a group object to content, in both cases each group could choose to formally protest or just turn the channel. The arguement that was being made was that Christians could just turn the channel instead of voicing their protest, the same arguement can be made with the gay groups who objected to Dr. Laura's content. Both groups used a formal protest to voice their opinions and they both certainly have a right to do so.
Yes it did. In one case, a group objected to a content with a specific and vocal agenda. In the other, a group protested entertainment because it didnt fit with their morality. Big difference. Now, back to my original point: both groups have the right to change the channel. I dont care for Dr. Laura, so if she had gotten her show, and especially as I took no part in any formal complaint, I reserve the right to change the channel. More people should take that approach.
So can we get back to the core issue now?
I have been inviting you to do so for a while...
Approx. 80% of the country, and perhaps more, claim to be Christian. Who at NBC is it that believes insulting the religious beliefs of 80% of the country is the way to gain viewers?
As I said before...why do we as Christians have to take so much insult where none is intended. (and before you start another weird digression and then dismiss the rebuttal...the same goes for gays).
At least with Dr. Laura the network could point to a large number out there who DO agree with her, yes I know you don't but that is not the issue. Especially since her show was a daytime or late night syndicated low audience to begin with as opposed to NBC doing this in primetime.
Here you go with Dr. Laura again. It is apparent we disagree on her, and that I actually DO find her offensive...yet you keep bringing her into the conversation and then dismissing my response. You are not fooling anyone and your lack of accomplishment in this discussion is still sorely visible.