Nationalism, good or bad ??

[jfuh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism

Wait, you mean not every nationalist movement is the same? That people in the US can have pride in their nation and culture and not be the same as Nazi Germany and Facist Italy? Nationalism does not denote extremism and does not always have to put your own nation above every other. Your comments from the article are simply :spin:

Keep on reading that same article, it will educate you some.

 

[jamesrage]

So nationalism brainwashes. Thank you for proving my point.

Nationalism does not brainwash nor does nationalism require brainwashing.Nationalism can be abused just like socialism,communism,liberalism and any other isms to sucker people into brutal dictatorships.

 

[Indy]

Nationalism does not brainwash nor does nationalism require brainwashing.Nationalism can be abused just like socialism,communism,liberalism and any other isms to sucker people into brutal dictatorships.

Um, you forgot to include conservatism into your examples of abused power. I'm sure it was an honest mistake though, don't worry about it I caught it for ya!

 

[jfuh]

Nationalism does not brainwash nor does nationalism require brainwashing.Nationalism can be abused just like socialism,communism,liberalism and any other isms to sucker people into brutal dictatorships.

Alright, then, for the Nth time, how about making a distinction between the two instead of just because you say so. And how does my anti-nationalism stance then take on an anti-american stance? You care to make that distinction too?

 

[RightOfCenter]

Alright, then, for the Nth time, how about making a distinction between the two instead of just because you say so. And how does my anti-nationalism stance then take on an anti-american stance? You care to make that distinction too?

Well, you have me there. I can not make that distinction. So, I'll just keep on being proud of my country and you can keep on just living in it I guess. But you cannot prove that nationalism=brainwashing.

 

[jamesrage]

Alright, then, for the Nth time, how about making a distinction between the two instead of just because you say so.

The basic definition of nationalism means that American nationalism is different than any other nationalism.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nationalism
# Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.

Seeing how nationalism also covers a "Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation" that alone means that American nationalism is different than Brazilian or any other nationalism on the planet.

And how does my anti-nationalism stance then take on an anti-american stance? You care to make that distinction too?

Because antiamerican scum mock patriotism and try to compare it to nazism or stalinism.Antiamerican scum mock the idea of being loyal to your country.

 

[Indy]

Because antiamerican scum mock patriotism and try to compare it to nazism or stalinism.Antiamerican scum mock the idea of being loyal to your country.

Interesting logic... Did any spittle fly from your mouth when you wrote that? :shock:

 

[jfuh]

The basic definition of nationalism means that American nationalism is different than any other nationalism.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nationalism
# Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.

Seeing how nationalism also covers a "Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation" that alone means that American nationalism is different than Brazilian or any other nationalism on the planet.

INteresting cause I don't see anywhere in that definition where it seperates American nationalism from any other nation's nationalism. Perhaps I'm not seeing something you are?
Also, we can go on and on with your endless citation of a dictionary definition. To which case you're not arguing of the matters but simply of semantics; in which case I've no interest in participating in.
I'm still waiting for you to show the distinction between brainwashing and nationalism.

Because antiamerican scum mock patriotism and try to compare it to nazism or stalinism.Antiamerican scum mock the idea of being loyal to your country.

Who said anything about patriotism? I'm questioning nationalism. Why aren't you defending it?