National Socialist Movement, Neo-Nazi Group, Explains Opposition To Immigration Refor (1 Viewer)

[TheDemSocialist]

Immigration hardliners can count one roundly condemned group among their adherents: neo-Nazis.It may come as news to some, but the United States still boasts a National Socialist Movement. Founded in 1994 and headquartered in Detroit, the Southern Poverty Law Center classifies the National Socialist Movement as a hate group. According the the SPLC’s website, the National socialist movement says “only hetereosexual ‘pure-blood whites’ should be allowed U.S. citizenship and that all nonwhites should be deported, regardless of legal status.”

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Dear god why are these people on our borders! ****ing idiots! Sooo ignorant!

 

[ecofarm]

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What do you think should be done about them?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

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What do you think should be done about them?

Nothing i guess they have every right to be there, but its sickening and their hate and ignorance is sickening.

 

[APACHERAT]

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Funny, a radical leftist hate group like the SPLC calling another socialist organization a hate group.

When Latino street gangs like the Avenues Gang are hunting down black Americans on the streets of L.A. and murdering them just because they are black and the SPLC refuses to label these Latino gangs as being a hate group, what's going on ?

 

[Rainman05]

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Well.

Lets break this down shall we.

First off, its the huffington post. Which is about the dumbest news site that you can quote aside from stuff like aljazzeera or msnbc.

Second. These people may be neo nazis, but the only reason they exist is because the federal government is refusing to do its job. There are laws in the federal legislation that say that the Federal government must protect and regulate the border. That means that people can't be allowed to cross illegally.
Where the government fails to be have morally and legally, you get extremist movements. This is one of them.
There are countless examples of extremist movements in the US from all racial groups. There is no racial group in the US that doesn't have some form of supremacist movement that says that they work for the interest of their race group. ofc, while they may mean that and believe that, the truth is inevitably going to of a different flavor.

Thirdly. In principle, this organization is no different than any other organization that only accepts people of a certain race/creed/etc. There are black only organization, asian only, arab only,jew only etc all over the US that pertain to work only for the interest of their racial group. The black panther party is not much different than this neo nazi party even, because there are high ranking members there that claim all whites should be killed.

So while this is a despicable group and should be disbanded, it is not the only one worthy of attention. Lets disband them all. Of course, its impossible to do that and as long as government fails in certain areas, there will always be extremists who will rally people around them and use that government failure as a rally cry.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

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Funny, a radical leftist hate group like the SPLC calling another socialist organization a hate group.

I don't hold much respect for them on account of their treatment of my religion.

 

[Fiddytree]

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Second. These people may be neo nazis, but the only reason they exist is because the federal government is refusing to do its job.

I should hardly think so. This American variant is often more a reflection of American nativism holdover from the Know-Nothing era than it is Adolf Hitler, or the ineffectiveness of the American government.

 

[APACHERAT]

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I don't hold much respect for them on account of their treatment of my religion.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is a radical leftist socialist hate group. They look down on people of color as being inferior and that they need special protections. But they only use the minority to further their socialist agenda and don't give jack #### about them.

What is interesting, just about every black American who has ever been employed by the SPLC has filed a discrimination law suit against the SPLC.

Those SPLC white beard scratching liberal/socialist are millionaires who got rich from preaching hate and suckering stupid Americans to send them money to further their comfortable living and further spreading hate.

 

[Rainman05]

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I should hardly think so. This American variant is often more a reflection of American nativism holdover from the Know-Nothing era than it is Adolf Hitler, or the ineffectiveness of the American government.

Ok. But then answer me this. If the borders were completely secure and there wouldn't be this problem with massive illegal crossings, will this group have something to yell about? No. It wouldn't. you would take the ground right under their feet.

 

[jamesrage]

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Funny, a radical leftist hate group like the SPLC calling another socialist organization a hate group.

When Latino street gangs like the Avenues Gang are hunting down black Americans on the streets of L.A. and murdering them just because they are black and the SPLC refuses to label these Latino gangs as being a hate group, what's going on ?

A broken clock is at least right twice a day.

 

[solletica]

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What do you think should be done about them?

Put them on a shelf until we need to use them.

 

[Thrilla]

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nice job Huffpo... way to poison the well on the illegal immigration issue... wow


remember folks, if you oppose illegal immigration... the Neo-nazis are right there standing besides you... and some idiot "journalist" at HuffPo will be there to remind you of that.

good thing i'm an open borders kinda guy.. I'd hate to be like Neo-Nazis who are like you folks who oppose illegal immigration.... what a stigma to have those guys standing next to you eh?


(I think i've made the right choice to not read HuffPo crap... if this is what passes for journalism there, I know i made the right choice)

 

[Thrilla]

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Put them on a shelf until we need to use them.

I can use them right now...for boat anchors., shark chum, or maybe an alternative to ballistics gel.



meh.. i'll just ignore em like usual... they'll die off sooner or later.

 

[Slateriesling]

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First off, its the huffington post. Which is about the dumbest news site that you can quote aside from stuff like aljazzeera or msnbc. /QUOTE]

You failed to legitimatize your comment by adding another of the ridiculous useless media outlets, Fox News.

 

[ecofarm]

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Put them on a shelf until we need to use them.

Ok, I'll bite. How?

 

[Wiggen]

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Good to see our share of Nazi-lovers and the 'this country is for white folks only' crowd is still active on the forum. I was getting worried for a while, but you've reassured me that respect for Nazis and their racist philosophy still flourishes here.

 

[Hard Truth]

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Ok. But then answer me this. If the borders were completely secure and there wouldn't be this problem with massive illegal crossings, will this group have something to yell about? No. It wouldn't. you would take the ground right under their feet.

Am I wrong to assume you would also agree with this?
"If Germany wasn't so filled with Jews and Gypsys, would the Nazis have something to yell about? No. It wouldn't. you would take the ground right under their feet. It was the Jews and Gypsys fault that the Nazis did all those bad things."

 

[Wiggen]

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Put them on a shelf until we need to use them.

How exactly would we use them? Setting up special death squads to take care of the racially impure? Jeez, nobody's ever thought of that before. Oh wait, these guys are nazis, aren't they?

 

[Wiggen]

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"If Germany wasn't so filled with Jews and Gypsys, would the Nazis have something to yell about? No. It wouldn't. you would take the ground right under their feet. So it was the Jews and Gypsys fault that the Nazis did all those bad things."

That's the thrust of the arguments being presented here. As I said, we have folks here who even love the Nazis.

 

[Thrilla]

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Good to see our share of Nazi-lovers and the 'this country is for white folks only' crowd is still active on the forum. I was getting worried for a while, but you've reassured me that respect for Nazis and their racist philosophy still flourishes here.

this here is a decidedly inaccurate depiction of this thread, and the members posting in it.

nobody is showing respect for neo-nazis, their racism, of their philosophy... that is simply something you are making up... and it's not cool.

 

[Fiddytree]

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Ok. But then answer me this. If the borders were completely secure and there wouldn't be this problem with massive illegal crossings, will this group have something to yell about? No. It wouldn't. you would take the ground right under their feet.

Are you kidding? It's the neo-nazis. Start counting up the groups they hate and you'll quickly figure out that they have an endless list.

 

[jamesrage]

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nice job Huffpo... way to poison the well on the illegal immigration issue... wow


remember folks, if you oppose illegal immigration... the Neo-nazis are right there standing besides you... and some idiot "journalist" at HuffPo will be there to remind you of that.

good thing i'm an open borders kinda guy.. I'd hate to be like Neo-Nazis who are like you folks who oppose illegal immigration.... what a stigma to have those guys standing next to you eh?


(I think i've made the right choice to not read HuffPo crap... if this is what passes for journalism there, I know i made the right choice)

Pro-illegal scum already try to make it seem that people are racist or xenophobic for opposing illegal immigration.So this is nothing new.

 

[Rainman05]

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Am I wrong to assume you would also agree with this?
"If Germany wasn't so filled with Jews and Gypsys, would the Nazis have something to yell about? No. It wouldn't. you would take the ground right under their feet. It was the Jews and Gypsys fault that the Nazis did all those bad things."

I would disagree with what you wrote, but I will also desire to inform you that the comparison you made is flawed. Why? Lets see. The devil is in the details.

In nazi germany, jews and gypsies were not illegal. Or to put it this way, there was no law in Germany, when Hitler took over (and generally until 1938) that said that jews and gypsies weren't allowed to live in Germany.

In the US today, there are laws that say that it is illegal to cross the border... illegally. And that the Federal Government has the duty to enforce and secure those borders against people who would cross it illegally.

Notice the difference? In this case, this particular neo nazi group exists because of the US government, more importantly, because of its failures in regard to doing what the law requires. Start enforcing the borders and end illegal crossing, and this neo nazi group will be done. They will have no more venom to spit, or at least, one venom shot less to spit.

 

[Rainman05]

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Are you kidding? It's the neo-nazis. Start counting up the groups they hate and you'll quickly figure out that they have an endless list.

If that is what you say, fine, then there is no solution. But again, if the Federal government would do what it is required, by law, to do, this neo nazi group will have one less poison to throw. Not to mention that the Federal Government would also be doing its job, as it is constitutionally required to do. So you will basically shoot 2 birds with one stone.

 

[Wiggen]

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this here is a decidedly inaccurate depiction of this thread, and the members posting in it.

nobody is showing respect for neo-nazis, their racism, of their philosophy... that is simply something you are making up... and it's not cool.

No, it is not an inaccurate description. We have a series of posts justifying the existance of these racist bastards by pointing out how its really the fault of the Federal Government, and not the racist bastards, that they exist. Excuses and deflection in a number of posts amount to a defense of nazis and their philosophy. One poster even goes so far as to say we could 'use them' one day, but apparently doesn't have the balls to say exactly how. I think it's fair to speculate how he envisions them being used.