My advice to Zelensky: Capitulate. Immediately.

[justabubba]

here is an interesting and possibly instructive article about the 2014 crisis and the interplay between russia/putyin/ukraine
allow me to add this excerpt from the final paragraph:

... Putin’s power play in Ukraine has been impulsive and improvised, without any clear sense of the desired end state. It will serve neither Ukraine nor Moscow if Donetsk and Luhansk fall into disrepair and disarray, left in some separatist limbo, but it is not clear that either have the capacity to provide a viable future. The separatists will not allow its re-integration into Ukraine while Russia cannot afford to annex. ...

Ukraine and the Art of Limited War - War on the Rocks

“You Can't Always Get What You Want” -Rolling Stones, Let it Bleed album 1969 In a piece published in War on the Rocks last March, and in an

warontherocks.com

and here is information which may provide some insight into the desirability for russia to return the ukraine to its orbit:

For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “​

This is why Ukraine matters.​

It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population​

of over 40 million - more than Poland.​

Ukraine ranks:​

1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;​

2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;​

2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);​

2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);​

2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;​

3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)​

4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;​

7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)​

Ukraine is an important agricultural country:​

1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;​

3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);​

1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;​

2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;​

3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;​

4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;​

5th largest rye producer in the world;​

5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);​

8th place in the world in wheat exports;​

9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;​

16th place in the world in cheese exports.​

Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.​

Ukraine is an important industrialised country:​

1st in Europe in ammonia production;​

Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;​

3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;​

3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);​

3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;​

3rd largest iron exporter in the world​

4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;​

4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;​

4th place in the world in clay exports​

4th place in the world in titanium exports​

8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;​

9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;​

10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).​

Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.​

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[Rogue Valley]

Destroy documents first, and then go on TV and announce that the Ukrainian military is standing down in order to keep the bloodshed of the Ukrainian citizens to a minimum.

And have his name cursed by generations of Ukrainians? I don't think capitulation is going to happen.

Z has said many times that he will negotiate directly with Putin (who has refused), but Zelenskyy will not barter away the things that belong to the Ukrainian people, like land and freedom.

 

[HangLow]

2021 Kabul airlift - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"The evacuation operations were one of the largest airlifts in history.[24][25] Between 14 and 25 August, the US evacuated about 82,300 people from Hamid Karzai International Airport,[26] including US citizens, Special Immigrant Visa applicants, and other vulnerable Afghans.[25] Over 122,000 people were airlifted abroad.[13] ..."
Pence aide blames Stephen Miller for 'devastating' visa ...
https://www.usatoday.com › news › politics › 2021/08/21
Aug 21, 2021 — Olivia Troye said Stephen Miller, a senior adviser to former President Donald Trump, undermined anyone trying to get the allies out of ...

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Former Pence Aide Say Trump, Miller Stymied Afghan Refugee​

https://www.nytimes.com › World › Asia Pacific
Aug 21, 2021 — Stephen did not even work on SIV policy.” Ms. Miller also linked to a government study showing that the number of Special Immigrant Visas ...

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Off the Rails: Trump’s failed 11th-hour military withdrawal campaign

A behind-the-scenes look at former President Trump’s unprecedented clash with the Pentagon.

www.axios.com

Jonathan Swan, Zachary Basu
May 16, 2021 - Politics & Policy

Episode 9: Trump's war with his generals​

"..John McEntee, one of Donald Trump's most-favored aides, handed retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor a piece of paper with a few notes scribbled on it. He explained: "This is what the president wants you to do."

1. Get us out of Afghanistan.

2. Get us out of Iraq and Syria.

3. Complete the withdrawal from Germany.

4. Get us out of Africa.

It was Nov. 9, 2020 — days after Trump lost his re-election bid, 10 weeks before the end of his presidency and just moments after Macgregor was offered a post as senior adviser to acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.

As head of the powerful Presidential Personnel Office, McEntee had Trump's ear. Even so, Macgregor was astonished. He told McEntee he doubted they could do all of these things before Jan. 20.

"Then do as much as you can," McEntee replied.

In Macgregor's opinion, Miller probably couldn't act on his own authority to execute a total withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Afghanistan because he was serving in an acting capacity. If this was for real, Macgregor told McEntee, then it was going to need an order from the president.

The one-page memo was delivered by courier to Christopher Miller's office two days later, on the afternoon of Nov. 11. .."

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[Checkerboard Strangler]

My advice for Vladimir Putin:

Run, get out of Russia as fast as you can, because now your richest friends want your head on a plate and millions of your own people seem more than happy to accommodate that request.
You're done, empty out a couple of bank accounts and find a tiny nation willing to host your largesse.
That's the best deal you're ever going to get.

 

[HangLow]

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