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Musk claims that Trump is “in the Epstein files”

Captain Adverse said:
Elon Musk's financials are suffering from his connection with Trump, he is losing millions as the Left are taking things out on his companies.
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That's an interesting way of describing the free market in action.

Musk can't redeem himself.
 
trumptman said:
Why would anyone in DC be protective of Trump. I'm talking even TODAY. At best Trump might have 50% control of the actual executive branch.

If a district judge feels like they can just order Trump to re-import citizens of another country, what's stopping them from ordering the release of the Epstein files?



My name suggests I play an instrument but thanks for showing the TDS if in full bloom for some.



You make a good point. Trump could literally pardon himself. He could give himself and his entire family blanket life pardons. Joe Biden led the way on that.

So really someone found a way to leak his tax records, leak that he slept with a porn star, leaked the grab them by the ***** tape, pretended to leak a pretend dossier of golden showers and more.

So seriously I'm pretty certain if they even had something they could pretend to fake as Epstein info tied to Trump we'd have it by now.

The party that got felonies from loan documents isn't exactly going to be claimed to show restraint and they had four years where Trump was out of power.

Let's also not forget that since Trump was out of power that he ran for President THREE TIMES.

Much like with his tax forms, if there were something there to get him out of a race, it would have come out by now. Obama, Biden, hell even a quarter of the Republican Party could have leaked it by now.
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trumptman said:
My name suggests I play an instrument but thanks for showing the TDS if in full bloom for some.
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I'm happy to submit to the rigour of a public poll, but given your posting history I would suggest that people are way more likely to think of you as a "trumpty" man than the Clifford Brown of our time.
 
phoenix2020 said:
I think you're reading too much into this. This is a spat between two adults with the emotional maturity of toddlers, and big surprise, they're both acting like toddlers.
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HenryChinaski said:


The lovers quarrel is getting ugly.
It’s highly likely, and I’d bet on one months salary that Trump is indeed in those files but this is still hysterical.
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Well he did walk in on undressed teenage girls. A man turned on by young girls his daughter's age is more than a bit pervy and then commented on his infant daughter's breasts. It's most likely true.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I agree.

IMO this has a lot to do with economics rather than personal animus. Elon Musk's financials are suffering from his connection with Trump, he is losing millions as the Left are taking things out on his companies.

I say this because the "conflict" seems contrived, a dramatic shift in the space of a few days. He has to act like he and Trump had a falling out and are now "enemies" IMO to reclaim "Liberal" status and stop hemorrhaging money from his companies.

Of course, it's possible he really is upset at the budget bill, but I'd think he'd have had some input in its creation. Perhaps he's upset at all the riders that members of Congress typically add in order to get something for their own constituencies.

I'd prefer to wait on more details from both him and Trump before I credit this as a valid break.
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The left?

The left has money invested in Musk?

Oh, oh show me.

I know a ton of wealthy lefties...I'm in ****ing CANADA where the left was invented! I know also that NOT ONE of them would invest a ****ing dime in Musk even before he teamed up with stupid! Musk is shit in Canada because he's a ****ing racist. They've sold a lot of Teslas in Vancouver but oops, now no one wants them. Too many are getting keyed and dented, which cost $25,000 to repair because they're aluminum!

If the left in Canada wants electric cars it won't be ****ing Teslas.
 
HenryChinaski said:


The lovers quarrel is getting ugly.
It’s highly likely, and I’d bet on one months salary that Trump is indeed in those files but this is still hysterical.
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Trump is a sleaze. While I can not say for certainty that he would be in the files, if I had to bet one way or another, I bet he is there with more than an "honorable" mention. It just seems fitting with his sleazy character.

ScrambledEggs said:
The funny thing is you don't even need to insinuate that Trump is a molestor / abuser. He literally bragged about grabbing women by the ***** & was found liable for sexual abuse in a court.

He could rape an underrage girl on 5th ave and wouldn't lose support.
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Well, he did rape a 40 year old woman in a 5th Avenue department store and his supporters looked the other way...

Parrish said:
Well he did walk in on undressed teenage girls. A man turned on by young girls his daughter's age is more than a bit pervy and then commented on his infant daughter's breasts. It's most likely true.
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That as well.... the man is a bona-fide pervert/sleaze, yet people thought he would be a good POTUS. Go figure.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
I agree.

IMO this has a lot to do with economics rather than personal animus. Elon Musk's financials are suffering from his connection with Trump, he is losing millions as the Left are taking things out on his companies.

I say this because the "conflict" seems contrived, a dramatic shift in the space of a few days. He has to act like he and Trump had a falling out and are now "enemies" IMO to reclaim "Liberal" status and stop hemorrhaging money from his companies.

Of course, it's possible he really is upset at the budget bill, but I'd think he'd have had some input in its creation. Perhaps he's upset at all the riders that members of Congress typically add in order to get something for their own constituencies.

I'd prefer to wait on more details from both him and Trump before I credit this as a valid break.
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Elon is likely embarrassed. The bill pretty much makes DOGE invalid and ignored.

I'm thinking distraction much more important than Trump or Elon that we don't know about yet.
 
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Hamish Howl said:
That's an interesting way of describing the free market in action.

Musk can't redeem himself.
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Musk went full MAGAtoons, so he chose to draw all of that attention to himself by trolling people online and showing up at rallies and acting like a loon. He could have played it smart and been more behind the scenes, but he didn't. Now he's pissed off the demographic who bought his cars and they said "no thanks". Free market indeed.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I'm not the one desperate for him to be a predator and completely inferior at finding the slightest shred of evidence.

So this is like being told I'm racist by a my Klux Klan member
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I'm not desperate for him to be a predator. He's just a predator. You're desperate to pretend he's not. Some people want to excuse pedophiles is all. So long as it's for your Dear Leader.
 
Remember when right wingers were all "Epstein didn't kill himself!" and then they realized which administration Epstein was under when he didn't kill himself?

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Can’t wait for the 3am tweet from Trump calling Elon a pedo or vice versa. It’s the battle of the shittiest people
 
phoenix2020 said:
This one is tricky for @CLAX1911 because it's a very public MAGA spat and while the right thing to do would be to stay silent and wait for his talking points to be given to him, instead he decided to stick his neck out and attempt deflections to Democrats, people who burn EVs, Mitt Romney or really anything that sticks. That said, I think we should encourage it in hopes of seeing whether he ends up making it all the way to a trans-people-in-sports deflection by the end of this thread. It would be cool to document the journey of a MAGA from "but burning EVs!" to "but trans people in sports!" in a single thread.
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You just tried to make it a "trans people in sports" thread.
 
ModernDiogenes said:
When it’s said under oath by someone with reason to know, then published in a book that was vetted by in house counsel to protect said publishers from massive lawsuits, about a man who was caught bragging about “grabbing them by the p##sy”, who has been accused of sexual misconduct by at least 30 other women*..

Yeah, I tend to believe it. Because the TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES SAY I OUGHT TO.




No, TDS actually is a Trump supporters issue. As I have stated here now, and for the last five years, is making an undeniable case that Trump supporters have Totality of the Evidence Syndrome. (TES)

That is the case where they continue to support Trump when the mountain of evidence presented to them that the guy is:

1) A thief and a low life of miserable character and horrendous ethics…

2) Is a sexual predator…

3) Breaks his contractual word.

4) Lies just because he can…

5) uses fraud and deceit to conduct his thieving. Haven been found in civil courts to have stolen millions from thousands of victims.

6) Violated our Constitution in multiple ways.

7) I could go on but use this as a place holder for all the rest

Yet you folks still support this criminal, yes VERY BAD MAN, of the stupefyingly bad ethics and character despite the PREPONDERANCE, THE TOTALITY, OF ALL THIS EVIDENCE.

It’s remarkable but they do it. As I’ve stated elsewhere though; it’s not that surprising when over a third of us are measured as functionally illiterate by the federal agency that takes measure of reading levels and such,
National Center for Education Statistics (NCES).**

* https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

**. Google A.I.

The National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) reports on various aspects of reading levels, including national average scores, percentages of students performing at different achievement levels, and long-term trends. NAEP (National Assessment of Educational Progress) assessments, administered by NCES, provide data on reading performance at grades 4, 8, and 12. These assessments use a 0-500 scale and define achievement levels (Basic, Proficient, Advanced).

Key NCES Stats on Reading Levels:
  • Grades 4 & 8:
    In 2022, the percentage of students performing below NAEP Basic in reading ranged from 20% to 52% across states/jurisdictions. A larger proportion of fourth-graders performed below NAEP Basic in 26 states/jurisdictions.

  • Grades 4 & 8 (Long-Term Trends):
    Between 2019 and 2022, average reading scores declined for students in both grades. The long-term trend decline in scoring was experienced by students at all percentiles of reading skill.

  • Grade 12:
    In 2019, 37% of twelfth-grade students performed at or above the NAEP Proficient level.

  • Adult Literacy:
    Approximately 43 million adults in the U.S. possess low literacy skills, with 26.5 million at Level 1 and 8.4 million below Level 1, according to NCES.
Those adult Level one or lower are the base. If you dig into it further it’s approximately 55% of us that are Level 2 or lower. The NCES states that LEVEL TWO OR LOWER IS PARTIALLY FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE.
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That's a lot of wind to get to the part that claims people who disagree with you are stupid.

Know what's stupid? That ad hominem fallacy.
 
Fearandloathing said:
The left?

The left has money invested in Musk?

Oh, oh show me.

I know a ton of wealthy lefties...I'm in ****ing CANADA where the left was invented! I know also that NOT ONE of them would invest a ****ing dime in Musk even before he teamed up with stupid! Musk is shit in Canada because he's a ****ing racist. They've sold a lot of Teslas in Vancouver but oops, now no one wants them. Too many are getting keyed and dented, which cost $25,000 to repair because they're aluminum!

If the left in Canada wants electric cars it won't be ****ing Teslas.
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Wow. Invented the left. Used to like Teslas. Don't now. Vandalize them to show their displeasure with their fellow citizens that bought them.

Whatta yarn!
 
CLAX1911 said:
He said he would be dating his daughter if she wasn't his daughter.

Media stupidity isn't evidence of anything except how gullible you are to fall for they're scam. How embarrassing for you.
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You must not be a parent if you think this is not an extremely gross and perverted thing to say. If not downright abusive.
Absolutely vile to say this and vile to defend it.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Do you have any recordings of Trump confessing?

I haven't heard any of these confessions. And I'm talking to people that think he was convicted of sexual assault.
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Already cited.

You and @nota bene are in conflict with the facts. We already know that Trump violates consent, it was proven in a court of law. We also know that he was fully aware of Epstein’s thing for young girls, he said it himself. We also know that Trump abused his power in the Miss Universe pageant to bust into changing rooms while little girls were nude, they accused him and he bragged about it. So we already know it’s much, much more than “guilt by association”.
 
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