Mr Duck Dynasty is at it again

[Chaddelamancha]

I'm sure that statistic is true; however, the underlying cause doesn't have much to do with age.

I'm not saying it will NEVER work, however, for the majority it doesn't work at that young of an age. Look at statistics man, they are against you.

 

[notquiteright]

Fair enough - I was just trying to indicate my complete lack of understanding American facination with all things "celebrity" and their need to use "celebrity" insanity to bolster their positions on serious policy matters. That's assuming there's even a serious policy matter in this one - perhaps advocating for lowering the legal marriage eligibility age.

Did I miss your puzzlement over ZZ Top #2's outrageous statements on gays and blacks before equal rights? I'da thought you'd be tut tutting the Religious Right's attempt to make a martyr over a millionaire who showed how out of touch he was before and the Right's attempt to use his utterances to further their political/ cultural agenda....

Selective lack of understanding????

For some reason I think we have just scratched the top layer of Duck Dude's crazy.

Having raised a daughter and seen her friends I can say that the R. Kelly approach to dating leaves a lot to be desired. Drama, mood swings, and even though i come from a very rural part of SW Oklahoma I can't see any of those girls standing over a sink plucking anyone's duck.

I'm not sure just how far back into history or the swamp you'd have to go to find so docile a 16 year old.... hell his own granddaughter is having none of that- she is busy in fashion. Can't say she'd give that up to pluck anyone's duck.... eace

 

[Slartibartfast]

I'm sure that statistic is true; however, the underlying cause doesn't have much to do with age.

a relationship is influenced greatly by how mature the two people are. As you get older, the likelihood of being mature enough to handle a relationship increases. Especially if one is able to learn from past relationship mistakes. Love alone won't cut it. Love itself can be quite fleeting and finicky actually.

 

[TheNextEra]

I'm sure that statistic is true; however, the underlying cause doesn't have much to do with age.

Actually it does. It's called maturity. Just because you're an adult (or think you are), doesn't mean you are a mature adult. At 16, most males and females are not mature.

 

[Buck Ewer]

Some real good solid family values on display here ... /sarc
He's just such an asshole...

 

[VanceMack]

Yeah, because that has anything at all to do with a girl marrying when she is 16 in today's society...

You mentioned quite correctly that he is out of his century. His way of thinking is pretty old school. Still...for all your hatred and loathing and continued attention, he has managed to cobble together a very loving and committed family and a successful. Rather than being filled with hatred towards the man there MIGHT be some lessons to be learned, even with his 'outdated' ways of thinking.

Nah...keep clinging to the hatred. Im sure your ways are better.

 

[Slartibartfast]

You mentioned quite correctly that he is out of his century. His way of thinking is pretty old school. Still...for all your hatred and loathing and continued attention, he has managed to cobble together a very loving and committed family and a successful. Rather than being filled with hatred towards the man there MIGHT be some lessons to be learned, even with his 'outdated' ways of thinking.

Nah...keep clinging to the hatred. Im sure your ways are better.

you might want to look up a few of my quotes defending the guy in other threads before you go much further.

Instead of doing that though, how about you stuck to the subject at hand? but nah, its easier to try to vilify me for opinions you assume I have and debate like a child.

 

[Linc]

For some reason I think we have just scratched the top layer of Duck Dude's crazy.

Mr. Duck knows exactly what he is doing politically..
I look for further call-outs as the election draws nearer, especially on ACA..
His first venture into politics supporting a TEAt in the LA 5th was successful and he salivates for much more .

 

[VanceMack]

you might want to look up a few of my quotes defending the guy in other threads before you go much further.

Instead of doing that though, how about you stuck to the subject at hand?

I have been responding to the OP and this thread. That 'poor guy' that is 'out of his century' has managed to do some things with his personal life, married life, family life, and professional life that few others have. Again...you might be more invested in the success story than the hatred...you might learn something.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I have been responding to the OP and this thread. That 'poor guy' that is 'out of his century' has managed to do some things with his personal life, married life, family life, and professional life that few others have. Again...you might be more invested in the success story than the hatred...you might learn something.

Again, the issue at hand is his opinion of the appropriate age of marriage. Also, I am quite capable of having different opinions on different aspects of the same person, so what you bring in has nothing to do with my beliefs on the guy. Are you able to debate the topic of the appropriate age of marriage or do you need to keep diverting into things I never talked about? Do you actually have a relevant point are you simply spewing your hatred?

 

[Buck Ewer]

I wonder how many 15 year olds he screwed before he found one that would pluck his duck...

 

[Slartibartfast]

I wonder how many 15 year olds he screwed before he found one that would pluck his duck...

Dude ...

 

[Gardener]

Well, it sure wouldn't require much in the way of alteration to change the name of his stupid show.


D" to "F".

It's just one key to the right.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Well, it sure wouldn't require much in the way of alteration to change the name of his stupid show.


D" to "F".

It's just one key to the right.

Duck Fynasty??

 

[lizzie]

Yeah, because that has anything at all to do with a girl marrying when she is 16 in today's society...

And as I said earlier, it appears that he was kidding and joking on this point. I really think that some of you guys are taking this much too seriously.

 

[Gardener]

I have been responding .

I would say you are probably the #1 guy for supporting everything he says, yes.

I guess if you identify with the guy, you identify, huh?

 

[Slartibartfast]

And as I said earlier, it appears that he was kidding and joking on this point. I really think that some of you guys are taking this much too seriously.

I am just messing with the angry guy who wants to bring a bunch of stuff into the debate that has nothing to do with the debate, just so he can try and make an irrelevant and untrue point.

But yeah, I see your point on his presentation and it makes sense.

 

[notquiteright]

I have been responding to the OP and this thread. That 'poor guy' that is 'out of his century' has managed to do some things with his personal life, married life, family life, and professional life that few others have. Again...you might be more invested in the success story than the hatred...you might learn something.

Hey if he could find a woman who's self esteem would have her duck plucking as he drank and whored until he damn near died then more power to them both. Doesn't make him a role model or someone to 'learn from'. One could say the same about Donald Trump, but again that doesn't mean we have to buy into any hair brained fantasy of his on where Obama was born.

 

[sangha]

Doesn't interest or affect me one way or another.
If you're trying to suggest that "in this day and age" 16 yr old girls are generally chaste, naive virgins subject to the lusts of "conservative" old men, you haven't been paying attention. In fact, a 16 yr old girl marrying a conservative older man would likely result in a far better future for her than being subjected to "liberal" older men in the American entertainment industry.

If you're trying to suggest I said anything about the sexual behaviors of 16 yo girls, you haven't been honest

 

[VanceMack]

Again, the issue at hand is his opinion of the appropriate age of marriage. Are you able to debate this or do you need to keep diverting into things I never talked about? Do you actually have a relevant point are you simply spewing your hatred?

State of Pennsylvania allows for age of consent as early as 13 with parental supervision. Others its 15. Most states categorize consent differently once a teenager gets pregant. Long and short of it, there isnt a best 'age'. I was married at 18 and still am married we have had more than our share of bumps, but which marriage doesnt and hasnt?

He is advocating for young men to be Godly (that is 'live their faith') and to find a young woman that is 'godly' (one who also lives their faith) and to marry early. You may not like that. I'd probably have a problem with my 16 year old daughter wanting to get married, but if the young man was a good man, respectful, kind, career motivated, and yes, even a person of faith...I would likely be OK with it at 18. And again...as much as you may hate the man...you cant argue with his results.

 

[VanceMack]

Hey if he could find a woman who's self esteem would have her duck plucking as he drank and whored until he damn near died then more power to them both. Doesn't make him a role model or someone to 'learn from'. One could say the same about Donald Trump, but again that doesn't mean we have to buy into any hair brained fantasy of his on where Obama was born.

Thats not what he advocated...but dont let your hatred get in the way of the facts.

 

[sangha]

I have been responding to the OP and this thread. That 'poor guy' that is 'out of his century' has managed to do some things with his personal life, married life, family life, and professional life that few others have. Again...you might be more invested in the success story than the hatred...you might learn something.

I could say the same thing about President Obama, yet that never stopped the right from hating him

 

[lizzie]

I am just messing with the angry guy who wants to bring a bunch of stuff into the debate that has nothing to do with the debate, just so he can try and make an irrelevant and untrue point.

But yeah, I see your point on his presentation and it makes sense.

Yeah, I couldn't tell from the setting of the video just where it was filmed, but it appeared to be something related to Georgia and hunting. I think the comments regarding 16 year-old girls was just his particular form of humor. I would bet my last dollar that he would not want his 16 year-old daughter getting married.

 

[Slartibartfast]

State of Pennsylvania allows for age of consent as early as 13 with parental supervision. Others its 15. Most states categorize consent differently once a teenager gets pregant. Long and short of it, there isnt a best 'age'. I was married at 18 and still am married we have had more than our share of bumps, but which marriage doesnt and hasnt?

It being legal doesn't make it a good idea or something that should happen in today's society. Such a woman wouldn't even be out of highschool, unless she was exceptionally intelligent.

He is advocating for young men to be Godly (that is 'live their faith') and to find a young woman that is 'godly' (one who also lives their faith) and to marry early. You may not like that. I'd probably have a problem with my 16 year old daughter wanting to get married, but if the young man was a good man, respectful, kind, career motivated, and yes, even a person of faith...I would likely be OK with it at 18. And again...as much as you may hate the man...you cant argue with his results.

Why do you assume I hate him and not simply strongly disagree with this one single opinion? Simple thing is, his opinion has no place in today's society where the best path to be successful is to establish a career before having children. Sixteen yearolds are easily influenced and manipulated. Plus most of them don't even know who they are and what would make them happy, not having had a chance to live on their terms and figure out what truly makes them happy before committing themselves to someone else. Can it work? Yes, its possible. Is it likely to work? Very unlikely.

So yeah, he is a man out of his time. This does not necessarily mean all of his opinions are ones I disagree with. But this one, hell yes.

So try debating what is in front of you, instead of making these unfounded assumptions... geez.

 

[VanceMack]

I would say you are probably the #1 guy for supporting everything he says, yes.

I guess if you identify with the guy, you identify, huh?

Hmmm...really good question. I would have to say, yes. Shall we look at the list?

I was a pretty lost young man. Managed to fix that. I grew up with little family and no guidance in an abusive environment. Managed to fix that. I spent my teen years in a pretty badly poverty stricken neighborhood where race wasnt relevant. Check. I got married very early and am still married. Check. I have 4 great kids and strong families. Check. I have gone from pretty much less than zero to what I consider comfortably successful. Yep. I dont duck hunt anymore, but I fish. Ehhhhh....we'll call that a push. Like Obama...I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. Check. I dont see the Bible and God the same way Phil does, but I can certainly see the parallels...absolutely. I believe there is a 'right' and 'wrong'...believe God not man is the judge of that, believe we should stand for right while loving everyone, even those that commit 'wrong'.

Anything I have missed?