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Moveon.org tells Obama not so fast on Syria

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This is more good news, growing opposition from his BASE not to violate our laws.


PETITION STATEMENT
President Obama must seek explicit Congressional authorization before taking military action in Syria, as required by the U.S. Constitution and the War Powers Resolution. Congress must insist that Congressional debate and vote precede any military action.


http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/president-obama-dont-18
 

how is asking the congress to vote on a resolution calling for millitary action in syria a violation of our laws?
 
MoveOn, their "journalists" let alone their sycophants, does not have the evidence afforded congress.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
how is asking the congress to vote on a resolution calling for millitary action in syria a violation of our laws?
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It's not.
Moveon wants Obama to do what he's doing.
 
ecofarm said:
MoveOn, their "journalists" let alone their sycophants, does not have the evidence afforded congress.
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Of course not.
All this "petition" asks for is Congressional approval for a Syrian operation.
Which the Prez is seeking.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
 
radioman said:
Of course not.
All this "petition" asks for is Congressional approval for a Syrian operation.
Which the Prez is seeking.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
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I think the government has released sufficient evidence; most normal people do. If someone would like to pass judgement without the intel provided congress, then they are a ****ing moron - Truther level.
 
ecofarm said:
I think the government has released sufficient evidence; most normal people do. If someone would like to pass judgement without the intel provided congress, then they are a ****ing moron - Truther level.
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So the congressional vote should be...shall we say..."a slam dunk"...right?
 
I expect the members of the intel committee and perhaps others to tell the rest: 'vote for it or this could/will end your political career". I believe the evidence (given the public release) is so strong.
 
ecofarm said:
I think the government has released sufficient evidence; most normal people do. If someone would like to pass judgement without the intel provided congress, then they are a ****ing moron - Truther level.
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Russia presented a 100 page report showing the rebels at fault. And I resent your attitude. 8)
 
WCH said:
Russia presented a 100 page report showing the rebels at fault. And I resent your attitude. 8)
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The US government is unequivocal: "there is no evidence of rebels using chems".



8)
 
ecofarm said:
The US government is unequivocal: "there is no evidence of rebels using chems".



8)
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Yeah, I saw that. They lie.

Please consider the other ramifications of us mindlessly bombing that country. They are many and likely catastrophic.
 
WCH said:
And you believe ours because?
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russia has spent less on aiding the syrian refugees then the united states.

i think russia is hoping that this civil war in syria lasts a long time so it can rake in the profits of selling the weapons the regime needs to kill its citizens.
 
WCH said:
Please consider the other ramifications of us mindlessly bombing that country. They are many and likely catastrophic.
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Please consider, if only for a fleeting moment of lucidity, that it's not ****ing mindless.
 
ecofarm said:
The US government is unequivocal: "there is no evidence of rebels using chems".
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Yeah, the US Government. Less trustworthy than Fox News.

We actually don't know who did it, we've already seen what happens when we intervene and it's not good, there's no point in killing another round of folk.
 
Ikari said:
Yeah, the US Government. Less trustworthy than Fox News.

We actually don't know who did it, we've already seen what happens when we intervene and it's not good, there's no point in killing another round of folk.
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We're past the point of not doing anything. The ramifications of doing nothing, at this point, will be worse.
 
apdst said:
We're past the point of not doing anything. The ramifications of doing nothing, at this point, will be worse.
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No it's not. That's just infinity war argument. No more dead Americans. We don't need another 10+ years of occupation, several more thousand dead Americans, hundreds of thousands of dead everyone else. It's expensive, it serves no point, it accomplishes nothing other than giving government excuse to expand itself against our rights.

So many Americans died in the past to secure those freedoms, now we're dying to remove them. Sick world.
 
ecofarm said:
Sorry, I stop at ~"all evidence is fake".
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Well then you shouldn't have stopped cause I never said that. But thanks for demonstrating your "honesty". :roll:
 
Ikari said:
Well then you shouldn't have stopped cause I never said that. But thanks for demonstrating your "honesty". :roll:
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The US government evidence in incontrovertible. Shall we go Truther?
 
ecofarm said:
The US government evidence in incontrovertible. Shall we go Truther?
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What evidence? They have merely stated this, not demonstrated it. Do you understand what "evidence" is?
 
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
how is asking the congress to vote on a resolution calling for millitary action in syria a violation of our laws?
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I take the wording of the petition to mean that should congress not approve the resolution that Obama not take military action. Both Obama and Kerry have hinted and/or flat out stated that the congressional resolutions are effectively meaningless because the President can act in the way he wishes without congressional consent. MoveOn, from what I gather, is telling him he can't or he mustn't.
 
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